A Wife for Prince Andrew, Duke of York

[fergalicious]

Koo Stark??? Rubbish.

 

[Zonk]

Koo Stark. Rubbish.

How exactly is she rubbish?

I admit her movie past wasn't ideal but despite that she and Andrew appeared to have remained friendly and Koo has never sold Andrew to the press.

 

[fergalicious]

Yes, but if Prince Andrew was searching a new woman then he would be married or in a relationship.

 

[Zonk]

What does Andrew searching for a new woman have to do with Koo Stark? I am missing your logic. No one suggested that he would date or marry Koo again.

 

[fergalicious]

??? Lumutqueens post above sounds like a suggestion to me. Friends, I can understand that you love to speculate but like in thread preferred wives for William and Harry, those things are never going to happen. His Royal Highness Prince Andrew meets hundreds of new women a year so if he would want to have new woman, he would have a new woman on his side.

 

[Zonk]

On the contrary, Lumutqueen was just stating that she wasn't familiar with Koo Stark until recently.

This thread as well as the for the future wives of William and Harry allow TRF members to discuss potential wives for all three British Princes.

And again, none of your responses have answered my question about why you think the notion of Koo Stark is rubbish. But whatever moving on.

 

[fergalicious]

Because I took it the way that Lumutqueen thought it would be possible that Prince Andrew could go back to Koo. and that is rubbish to me. I know Mrs. Stark is a nice and strong woman. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Lumutqueen]

Seeing as you think Koo Stark is a rubbish idea for Prince Andrew, i'll express my opinion.

Sarah Ferguson. Rubbish.

 

[Iluvbertie]

Seeing as you think Koo Stark is a rubbish idea for Prince Andrew, i'll express my opinion.

Sarah Ferguson. Rubbish.

Koo Stark was deemed unsuitable at the time due to doing a pornographic film (whether it would rate as pornographic now is another matter).

Sarah Ferguson was deemed suitable at the time and the sad thing is that she and Andrew weren't able to make it work as they as so very suited to each other and clearly still love each other on so many levels. The very fact that they still share a house and neither has been in a really serious relationship since shows exactly that. Yes they have both had relationships but none have lasted, probably because they are really committed to each other.

The idea that Andrew would return to Koo is rubbish in my opinion. That he would remarry Sarah at some time is not so - I do still think it might happen - maybe not in the present Queen's lifetime but at some time in about 10 - 15 more years I can see them back together for their twilight years.

 

[Osipi]

Because I took it the way that Lumutqueen thought it would be possible that Prince Andrew could go back to Koo. and that is rubbish to me. I know Mrs. Stark is a nice and strong woman. Sorry for the confusion.

First off.. she was never MRS Stark. I agree with you that she's a strong woman. Anyone that has battled breast cancer with a double mastectomy and is very active in the fight for breast cancer has to be strong.

From Wiki: In 2002 she was diagnosed with breast cancer, resulting in a mastectomy and a course of chemotherapy. In 2003, she underwent her second mastectomy. Due to her experience with cancer she has founded a cancer awareness agency, Keep Abreast.

She also has a 13 year old daughter and is a practicing Buddhist.

The idea that Andrew would return to Koo is rubbish in my opinion. That he would remarry Sarah at some time is not so - I do still think it might happen - maybe not in the present Queen's lifetime but at some time in about 10 - 15 more years I can see them back together for their twilight years.

I also see Sarah and Andrew together as the kids today say BFF and soul mates till the end. He understands her best and she knows him inside out and backwards. Its the family Firm that was the main monkey wrench between them. I'm iffy about remarriage but they'll probably be close for the rest of their lives.

 

[rmay286]

I think I understand what fergalicious was saying: not that Koo Stark is rubbish as a person, but that it's rubbish that Andrew will ever marry her. I agree.

I think Koo Stark is probably a nice person and maybe she would have made a good Duchess of York; as a matter of fact, I think there are probably lots of women out there that would be good wives for Andrew and good as Duchess of York. The problem is that Andrew has 25 years of history with Sarah, and grown children with her, and that's not something any other woman can give him, even if she has all kinds of other wonderful qualities.

Sarah Ferguson was deemed suitable at the time and the sad thing is that she and Andrew weren't able to make it work as they as so very suited to each other and clearly still love each other on so many levels. The very fact that they still share a house and neither has been in a really serious relationship since shows exactly that. Yes they have both had relationships but none have lasted, probably because they are really committed to each other.

Yes and I think the whole reason Sarah and Andrew are still close is because their inability to make it work had much less to do with the two of them, as it did with Sarah's suitability for the royal family. This is why I can't see Andrew remarrying someone else, because I think he already found the person he wants to be with.

 

[Lumutqueen]

I understand that Koo was unsuitable at the time, and that Sarah was suitable.
But seeing as "fergalicious" thinks that Koo Stark is a rubbish suggestion for Andrew to marry, I expressed my opinion that I think Sarah is very unsuitable to remarry Andrew now or in his "twilight years".

 

[Russophile]

Is Koo still married to the father of her mother?

 

[Vasillisos Markos]

Is Koo still married to the father of her mother?

Russo dear,

Huh?

 

[Russophile]

Russo dear,

Huh?

OMGOsh! Sorry! Not enough caffiene today. (Yeah, I'm dyslexic, but not THAT dyslexic!!)

I meant to say, isn't Koo still married to the father of her child?

Hooo Boy! It's going to be one of THOSE days. .. .

 

[Lumutqueen]

Was she ever married?

I know she was in a relationship with Tim Jefferies and then she had her daughter Tatiana from another relationship.

 

[Osipi]

Is Koo still married to the father of her mother?

Think I needs a carafe of a good merlot AND a cognac chaser to answer this one.. hehe.

Koo did marry and her (ex) hubby is known for being with Claudia Schiffer and the daughter she does have is by another relationship.. ok.. that's all Wiki told me and much more than I really needed to know. I know she was with Andrew in his "Randy Andy" days and it wouldn't surprise me one bit that they are still close friends.

In comes the "suitability" thing and duty to the Firm. Camilla was a no go.. and so was Koo at that time.

 

[Russophile]

Sipi, you would need to be from the DEEP South--Deliverance South to answer that one!

I would think she would be one of the few that Prince Andrew could confide in.

 

[Zonk]

If only Andrew could find someone who has the discretion and loyalty of a Koo Stark with the attraction (and later on love) that he has for Sarah. But alas....

 

[Irish Eyes]

If only Andrew could find someone who has the discretion and loyalty of a Koo Stark with the attraction (and later on love) that he has for Sarah. But alas....

You put it very well Zonk. I think finding someone discrete and loyal is very possible, but finding that love again is harder. At least he found it once in Sarah, most people don't. I know she lets him down, but he seems to be able to understand her behaviour when no one else can, and therefore can forgive.

 

[rmay286]

You put it very well Zonk. I think finding someone discrete and loyal is very possible, but finding that love again is harder. At least he found it once in Sarah, most people don't. I know she lets him down, but he seems to be able to understand her behaviour when no one else can, and therefore can forgive.

I think for all princes in the British Royal Family, the most important thing is to be loved for who they are and not for their title, wealth or fame. Discretion is important, but not as important as that one quality. I guess in a sense, "being loved for oneself" is pretty much a guarantee of loyalty as well. A princess who loves her prince even though she knows he is very much human, and has flaws, is going to be a loyal princess.

I think this is why the princes of this royal family haven't always gone for the "obvious" choice in a bride. Camilla is discreet, but she doesn't fit the popular conception of a princess. But Charles knew she would support him through thick and thin despite his eccentricities. Sarah hasn't been loyal or discreet in certain ways, as we all know. But in other ways, she has been. She has never spilled his secrets or said anything disparaging about him. Obviously the tabloid sting threatened Andrew's reputation as a trade ambassador, but even while selling access to Andrew, Sarah defended him as a man who was "whiter than white." I would imagine that is very important to Andrew; he knows that underneath the title and the privileged upbringing, he's a very ordinary man (some have said boring, not to mention less than brilliant). But Sarah knows him, and still thinks he's special. I would think that means a lot to Andrew.

 

[NoorMeansLight]

I too get the feeling that P Andrew has never got over Sarah and that he will never love another woman the way he loved her. These two have a very special bond as they fell in love with each other when they were young. None of them had a great 'past' when they met and this is another great factor, IMO.

 

[Irish Eyes]

I too get the feeling that P Andrew has never got over Sarah and that he will never love another woman the way he loved her. These two have a very special bond as they fell in love with each other when they were young. None of them had a great 'past' when they met and this is another great factor, IMO.

The more time passes, the more I'm thinking the same. She brought a sense of fun, freedom, and spontaneity to his life while he gave her the sense of security and unconditional love that she longed for.
I think it's those same things that still keeps them close. I also don't see him loving anyone like that again, Sarah has a place in his heart that is untouchable, and in their two daughters a bond that is unbreakable.
He said as much to the girl on the yacht if her interview is truthful.
I hope the understanding he has shown Sarah in the last few months has finally woken her up, and that she realises what she's got, and what she's got to lose.

 

[nascarlucy]

When there is children involved, there is always a bond between the parents that can never be broken, even if they divorce, go their separate paths or have little contact with each other.

Prince Andrew seems to be a forgiving person (Years ago I really wouldn't have thought so but he's proven this over and over again). But you can only forgive so much.

A spouse can often forgive someone when others can't. It's hard for other family members when someone has been wronged and they forgive that person. They have forgiven them and moved on but at lot of times their family or friends haven't.

 

[rob2008]

He is already married to golf, which is his passion and obsession.

 

[Russophile]

When there is children involved, there is always a bond between the parents that can never be broken, even if they divorce, go their separate paths or have little contact with each other.

Russo has found if you ignore them enough they do go away. .. of course if they do come stalking back there is always the threat of taking the peg leg off and tossing it out the window again. . .

Russo believes Prince Andrew LOVES Sarah, however, he is not IN LOVE with her anymore given all that they have been through, what she has done has certainly pushed the envelope, IMO and anyone would be hard pressed to love somebody who wrecked as much havoc on the BRF as Sarah has and continues to do so--for instance, the upcoming television deal she has just procured.

 

[kakieanne]

Russo has found if you ignore them enough they do go away. .. of course if they do come stalking back there is always the threat of taking the peg leg off and tossing it out the window again. . .

Russo believes Prince Andrew LOVES Sarah, however, he is not IN LOVE with her anymore given all that they have been through, what she has done has certainly pushed the envelope, IMO and anyone would be hard pressed to love somebody who wrecked as much havoc on the BRF as Sarah has and continues to do so--for instance, the upcoming television deal she has just procured.

I agree. That plus the embarrassment and pain Sarah has caused their daughters, who are obviously his pride and joy.

 

[Sereta]

That's who I feel sorry for the most is those poor girls.

 

[rmay286]

I think Andrew and the girls have forgiven Sarah. Looking at Andrew's behaviour since the scandal: he paid off some of Sarah's debts, he continues to let her live with him, his spokesperson said he was very supportive of her, they spent at least one night in Spain together on holiday as a family, and according to the model on the yacht with Andrew, he allegedly told her he would never find anyone to replace Sarah and had been very lucky to find her. So we can argue that Andrew should be embarrassed by Sarah given all she's done, but whether he is, is a different story.

 

[Russophile]

I think Andrew and the girls have forgiven Sarah. Looking at Andrew's behaviour since the scandal: he paid off some of Sarah's debts, he continues to let her live with him, his spokesperson said he was very supportive of her, they spent at least one night in Spain together on holiday as a family, and according to the model on the yacht with Andrew, he allegedly told her he would never find anyone to replace Sarah and had been very lucky to find her. So we can argue that Andrew should be embarrassed by Sarah given all she's done, but whether he is, is a different story.

What else can he do?? If he ignored her he would come off as callus and that would have put the Dailey Mail into a tizzy and garnered bad press for the BRF which is something he is very keen not to do.