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Old 10-16-2019, 06:20 AM
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Wedding dresses with long sleeves:

https://www.brides.com/gallery/weddi...ends-2013-fall

I like #2 Tadashi Shoji Esmaralda

#3 Azazie Marlin BG, is similar to Meghan's wedding dress

#16 Vera Wang Bell Sleeves Lace

#24 Watters Lucretia (with a less revealing top design, this is pretty)

#30 Muse by Berta... Similar to 24, but longer sleeves and a plunging back

#33 Allure Bridals -- a nice design

#34 Monique Lhuillier Bliss -- a very pretty design, but top is too revealing

#35 Monique Lhuillier Albertine -- very pretty, but with a less plunging neckline

#42 Reem Acra seems inspired by Meghan's wedding dress, but this scoop neckline is too plain with the dress' styling. Meghan's veil enhanced the classic lines of her dress

#43 Rebecca Ingram Rina -- very pretty, but without the too revealing neckline

#46 Georges Hobeika Look 6 Classically pretty, but without the plunging neckline

#57 Savannah Miller Gwendolyn (also inspired by Meghan's wedding dress)

#60 Elizabeth Fillmore Water Lily -- very pretty, but maybe not for Beatrice

#62 Stella McCartney -- an interesting back, but not for Beatrice

#63 Zuhair Murad Raphaelle -- very pretty but shoulders are too bared

#67 Isabelle Armstrong Louise -- another Meghan wedding dress inspired design

At the bottom of the page, there's a link to halter-design wedding dresses inspired by Meghan's Stella McCartney after-party dress.
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:04 AM
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My opinion is that Beatrice should stay far away from anything clingy or mermaid style. She should also avoid the column.

A classic A line skirt with a fitted bodice is what would work with her height and body type.

ETA: Reem Acra was designing gorgeous off the shoulder column style gowns LONG before Meghan was heard of. She designed Star Jones dress for her first wedding in 2006.

Beatrice should seek inspiration from Pronovias or Elie Saab, whose design she wore in the past to magnificent effect.
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A classic A line skirt with a fitted bodice is what would work with her height and body type.
I agree.
She should also avoid the off-the-shoulder styles.
I think she shouldn't choose anything too extreme but stick to a classic style.
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:31 PM
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I think she would look lovely in this style:
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:07 PM
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I agree.
She should also avoid the off-the-shoulder styles.
I think she shouldn't choose anything too extreme but stick to a classic style.
Considering the Anglican church tradition of covered shoulders, I dont think that an off the shoulder would be in consideration for her. With her grandmother in attendance dont see her trying to break that rule.

Beatrice, beyond her bizarre headgear, does stick to pretty classic lines. I dont think she will be daring on her wedding day.

Roksanda or Mary Katrantzou are being predicted by some. Based mainly on she has worn them and they are British based.

Roksanda did a few 'bridal' pieces for a runway but looked more like older second time bride look. Not holding my breath on trusting Roksanda to do a big time bridal dress. Mary has branched out recently.

https://www.wmagazine.com/story/mary...-wedding-dress


I hope like Eugenie, Beatrice branches out in designers and works with someone who designs her a gown which will just wow us on the big day.
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:11 PM
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Yes, I totally agree with you Moonmaiden. I just wanted to get some kind of conversation going here, just for fun. I was not even trying to suggest Meghan's dress style for Beatrice, not at all. I just noticed some of the styles were similar to Meghan's dress. And yes, the classic lines and style of Meghan's dress, with the off-shoulder boatneck are most definitely not new. Princess Angela of Liechtenstein designed for her own wedding a very similar dress to the one Meghan wore by Givenchy. It's a classic throwback to a style Audrey Hepburn wore, and Givenchy himself unsurprisingly was Audrey's designer.

I just highlighted dresses that I think are pretty, and I tried to point out where I don't think most of them suit Beatrice. I completely agree with your assessment that mermaid is not the right style for Beatrice. You are right about the A-line or full skirt with a fitted bodice. Eugenie had excellent advice and ended up with two absolutely gorgeous dresses, and I'm hoping the same for Beatrice. She has such lovely coloring and striking features, which are not always enhanced by her clothing choices. So, I'm hoping for her that she settles on finding the right advice from the right designers who understand how to enhance her best features. No matter anyone's shape, weight, or body structure, wearing the right clothing styles and colors makes all the difference in how one looks and feels. All women should feel beautiful and comfortable on their wedding day!

I hope this continues to be a fun and exciting time for Beatrice during which she can simply enjoy exploring her and Edo's preferences and make choices that suit them for their special day. I really wish their wedding will be televised, but I'm beginning to think it may not be.

I like the dress style that Beatrice wore for Eugenie's wedding, so maybe it was by one of the designers posters are referencing. Beatrice is bound to end up losing weight, as most brides do, so that has to be taken into account too when settling on a style, and in the making and fitting of the dress.
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Of course, off-shoulder is not a consideration for royal wedding dresses. That's one of the reason's why Meghan's halter-style dress was made for the after-party. It would probably have been Meghan's go-to style for a more informal, intimate wedding without all the trappings, pomp and circumstance, and ancient traditions involved with a royal wedding.

Among the larger population, as we know, off-shoulder or strapless dresses continue to be popular. Personally, such styles are not my preference at all. I kept mentioning the ways the dresses I highlighted would need adjusting, or else wouldn't be at all suitable.

I haven't been able to find a site with more suitable styles in any case.
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:29 PM
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Of course, off-shoulder is not a consideration for royal wedding dresses. That's one of the reason's why Meghan's halter-style dress was made for the after-party. It would probably have been Meghan's go-to style for a more informal, intimate wedding without all the trappings, pomp and circumstance, and ancient traditions involved with a royal wedding.

Among the larger population, as we know, off-shoulder or strapless dresses continue to be popular. Personally, such styles are not my preference at all. I kept mentioning the ways the dresses I highlighted would need adjusting, or else wouldn't be at all suitable.

I haven't been able to find a site with more suitable styles in any case.
Or it may not have been Meghan's go to for a private wedding.

That is the good thing about having the second wedding dress. Most brides choose something radically different then their ceremony dress. Its meant to be a party dress, something to have fun and dance in. Still enough tradition that its a 'wedding dress' but usually a bit more spirited and fun.

Royal brides are lucky, they have the budget to splash out on two amazing dresses. Its common now among common brides, but not everyone has that kind of money.


I stick to looking at gowns whose shoulders are already covered. Altering the dress to change shoulders and neck makes a completely different dress all together. Hard to imagine what you are actually picturing.
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Old 10-16-2019, 11:19 PM
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I'm not picturing anything. As I already pointed out, I'm simply trying to generate some fun discussion, not contention. Weddings are a celebratory time, and the lead-up should involve lighthearted conversation and laid-back dialogue.

I don't pretend to be that knowledgeable about current fashion or about wedding dresses. I've lived for awhile, so I do have some cultural perspectives, and I have attended a few weddings, but never a royal wedding. I tried to find sites where there might be dresses suitable for Beatrice, but I was having a hard time, so I settled on some of the dresses I thought were pretty that might work with a number of adjustments.

I'm glad you are able to 'stick to looking at gowns whose shoulders are already covered.' That didn't happen for us in the lead-up to Meghan's wedding. I mean it just depends where we are able to find pictures and ideas. I'm not a designer, nor do I have designer friends. If you have a better idea of where to go to find only Beatrice-appropriate wedding dress designs with exclusively covered shoulders, please do share!
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Old 10-17-2019, 07:14 AM
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I hope like Eugenie, Beatrice branches out in designers and works with someone who designs her a gown which will just wow us on the big day.
As long as it isn't The Vampire's Wife!
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:41 PM
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Maybe "so what" to you, but there are (still) many people out there who are ashamed of scars for whatever reason and think that they are ugly. Eugenie wanted to show that a scar is nothing to be ashamed of, as she has said herself.

As for Beatrice's dress, I hope for her, similar to what MARG said, that she will also knock it out of the park. With or without veil.
I don't understand why you would be 'ashamed' of a scar. I have a cesarean scar and I'm not ashamed of it. It is what it is as all scars are but I certainly wouldn't build a wedding dress around it, I really don't get the connection between the two things.

I think that Marchesa would be a great designer for B's dress but perhaps that's a no no because if the relationship with Harvey Weinstein.
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:12 PM
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I agree, sophie25. Both my knees look like baseballs with their stitching from knee surgeries and I've often been asked why don't I have plastic surgery on them as the scars are very, very prominent (especially in the era of the miniskirt). My answer is and was that these are my battle scars and prove the hell I went through to get them.

As for Beatrice's wedding dress, the first thing that came to my mind would be that she may choose something similar to the gown that she wore in the movie "Young Victoria". I'd do away with the puffy sleeves though.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Beat...RLAYTIV0LU60M:
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I was only joking when I said I hoped Beatrice wouldn't choose a dress from THE VAMPIRE'S WIFE.
But maybe it is a possibility??

https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides...vampires-wife/
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:37 PM
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Yeah. But I was serious about it when I expressed concern here at TRF,and was immediately "checked" by another poster for my foolishness.

Fingers and toes crossed that Beatrice will avoid all things Vampire for her wedding.

A couple of British papers are reporting that she can't find anyone who is interested in working with her and may have to "make the dress herself".

What's up with that? Usual York directed venom from the media?

ETA: The Falconetti gown in that ad is very elegant...beautiful actually. But I don't know that it suits Beatrice's body type and/or height.
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She might go for that brand as an evening dress or a different event relating to her wedding, but I highly suspect she will go for a higher end, couture designer for her religious wedding ceremony
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A couple of British papers are reporting that she can't find anyone who is interested in working with her and may have to "make the dress herself".

What's up with that? Usual York directed venom from the media?.

One of the terrible gossip mags here in Australia posted that as a ‘story’ - these magazines never have any basis in truth otherwise Kate would have 12 children, the Queen would have abdicated for William at least 5 times and Meghan would have fled with Archie at least 3 times by now.

What happens is they are allowed to print absolute rubbish in these magazines in Australia knowing that the people in the stories will very rarely sue and then other countries can print stories correctly claiming the stories have been legitimately published in other countries however dubious the source and trust me in this case the source is very dubious.
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A couple of British papers are reporting that she can't find anyone who is interested in working with her and may have to "make the dress herself".

What's up with that? Usual York directed venom from the media?
I've read that too, from several sources.
Supposedly it is because the wedding will probably not be televised, and so designers are reluctant to step up.

I hope it's not the case.

Btw- I didn't read that she would make the dress, but that she'd have to pay for it, much more than she expected.
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One of the terrible gossip mags here in Australia posted that as a ‘story’ - these magazines never have any basis in truth otherwise Kate would have 12 children, the Queen would have abdicated for William at least 5 times and Meghan would have fled with Archie at least 3 times by now.

What happens is they are allowed to print absolute rubbish in these magazines in Australia knowing that the people in the stories will very rarely sue and then other countries can print stories correctly claiming the stories have been legitimately published in other countries however dubious the source and trust me in this case the source is very dubious.
It is not true that the Aussie magazines 'never have a basis in truth'.

It was, after all, New Idea that broke the story that Harry was in Afghanistan over two months before anyone else did.

Sometimes they do get a scoop which is ignored because of so much garbage.

As for Catherine having 12 babies by now - if you go back to the 1950s and 1960s the Queen would have had about 20 and Diana at least 10 as well. It is the way of magazines the world over with that one.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:37 AM
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I am hoping she will save the attempt to do something edgy and modern (Vampires Wife etc) for the reception dress. Go with a more classic style (and there are several she can pull off very well) for her ceremony dress.

I find that rather unlikely that designers don't want to work with her ...there will be a lot of press and pics on the dress even if it's not a televised wedding. Plus...she's paying them for it. Not too many designers are so well off they can turn away tens of thousands of dollars just because they don't feel like there will be enough press coverage. None of that makes sense to me.

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Sour grapes from those that said nobody would want to watch Eugenie's wedding and were resoundingly proved wrong.

Since the ladies of the BRF never reveal the source of their gowns until the day of the wedding, these nasties have skipped the fun part of guessing and imagining and going straight to the cheap off-the-rack jobs because nobody cares if she gets married.

Bye the bye, you are right, no Atelier is going to turn her away because things are tight out there. Even Eugenie's designer Zac Posen is winding up his business due to high overheads and falling number of clients.

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