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Old 11-04-2020, 09:29 PM
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I have a quick question about Zara. I know her mother refused titles for her and her brother, so Zara has no royal title, but at her wedding she wore a tiara. So is she still technically royal?
No, she is not a royal (as she is not a 'royal highness') but she is still a member of the British royal family. And she, like anybody else, is free to wear a tiara whenever she likes; and especially at her wedding day. It would have been more surprising if the daughter of the princess royal would not have worn a tiara on her wedding.

N.B. Technically no titles for Zara and Peter were refused. Anne and Mark weren't interested in a title for Mark which had the consequence that their children don't have a style. Had their father been made an earl, Peter would have been Lord Peter (or more likely Viscount X - assuming that Mark had also received a subsidiary title like Anthony did) and Zara Lady Zara. Their half-sister Stephanie would be Lady Stephanie. Their other half-sister, Felicity, would have remained 'plain' Felicity as she was born out of wedlock (while Mark was married to Anne).
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:30 PM
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I have a quick question about Zara. I know her mother refused titles for her and her brother, so Zara has no royal title, but at her wedding she wore a tiara. So is she still technically royal?
Wearing a tiara has nothing to do with being Royal or not (or even aristocratic). Anyone can wear one - Liz Taylor for example was the owner of a rather beautiful tiara.

But to your question, Zara is a member of the Royal Family but she is not a Royal.
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:52 PM
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So is the reason they would have been Lord and Lady, and not Prince and Princess like Beatrice and Eugenie, because Anne is female and Andrew is male?

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No, she is not a royal (as she is not a 'royal highness') but she is still a member of the British royal family. And she, like anybody else, is free to wear a tiara whenever she likes; and especially at her wedding day. It would have been more surprising if the daughter of the princess royal would not have worn a tiara on her wedding.

N.B. Technically no titles for Zara and Peter were refused. Anne and Mark weren't interested in a title for Mark which had the consequence that their children don't have a style. Had their father been made an earl, Peter would have been Lord Peter (or more likely Viscount X - assuming that Mark had also received a subsidiary title like Anthony did) and Zara Lady Zara. Their half-sister Stephanie would be Lady Stephanie. Their other half-sister, Felicity, would have remained 'plain' Felicity as she was born out of wedlock (while Mark was married to Anne).
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:10 PM
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So is the reason they would have been Lord and Lady, and not Prince and Princess like Beatrice and Eugenie, because Anne is female and Andrew is male?
HRH Prince/Princess is only passed in male line. Even with the changes to embrace equal primogeniture, this remains in place. George and Louis can pass HRH to their children, Charlotte will not be able.

The reason Zara and Mike would have been Lord/lady is they would have not gained their title from their mother. They would have gained it from their father. So they would be titled as the children of an Earl (the title Mark turned down) and not as the children of a royal. Like Louise and James are, even though they are entitled to HRH Prince/ss.
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Old 11-04-2020, 10:53 PM
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So why are Edward's kids not Prince and Princess? Sorry for all the questions...I'm American and don't know all the ins and outs.

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HRH Prince/Princess is only passed in male line. Even with the changes to embrace equal primogeniture, this remains in place. George and Louis can pass HRH to their children, Charlotte will not be able.

The reason Zara and Mike would have been Lord/lady is they would have not gained their title from their mother. They would have gained it from their father. So they would be titled as the children of an Earl (the title Mark turned down) and not as the children of a royal. Like Louise and James are, even though they are entitled to HRH Prince/ss.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:06 AM
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So why are Edward's kids not Prince and Princess? Sorry for all the questions...I'm American and don't know all the ins and outs.
Ask away, that's why we are here.

You will find a very detailed discussion of the titles for James and Louise here:

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ren-13729.html
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:37 AM
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So why are Edward's kids not Prince and Princess? Sorry for all the questions...I'm American and don't know all the ins and outs.
They are. They simply aren't referred to as such.

Edward and Sophie made it known when they got married that they wished for their kids to have a private life. And said their kids would simply be addressed as children of an Earl.

There were those that thought this was official, Sophie has confirmed that the children will have the choice whether to use their proper titles at 18.
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Old 11-05-2020, 04:25 AM
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Would it not be interesting if one of the children wished to use the royal title and his/her sibling did not?
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Old 11-05-2020, 04:38 AM
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Would it not be interesting if one of the children wished to use the royal title and his/her sibling did not?
Not really. It might look rather awkward as if one member of the family was more concerned with royal titles than the other...
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:04 AM
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Mike and Zara Tindall along with Sir Ben Ainslie (competitive sailor), Jose Mourinho (professional football manager), Tyson Fury (Professional boxer) and 100 sport stars have pledge their support for The Telegraph's Keep Kids Active Campaign. From reading at the blurb (article behind a paywall), The Telegraph's letter is urging the Government to exempt outdoor children's sport from the second lockdown.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/20...e_AwMDCw0QhLSp

The only person I recognised is Tyson Fury. As you may notice, I don't watch sport

I know that there are some columnist and opinion writers in The Telegraph who are against the second lockdown and curfews.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/20...phs-keep-kids/

These two articles come after the House of Common Parliamentary voting for Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) (No.4) Regulations 2020 [If anyone is interested ]
https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/902
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:50 AM
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zara and mike are in trouble for endorsing a COVID app for sports:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54827965
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Old 11-17-2020, 10:45 PM
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Gosh are her and her brother that desperate for money that they will attach their names to, market and sell anything from Chinese milk to Coronavirus testing kits and apps?
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Old 11-17-2020, 11:10 PM
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Gosh are her and her brother that desperate for money that they will attach their names to, market and sell anything from Chinese milk to Coronavirus testing kits and apps?
We don't know what's behind the doors particularly on their financial circumstances. They have less restriction being non-title royal family members and not being working royal. With that gives freedom to make career choices, but also room for scrutiny. No matter what success they achieved, they will be discredited for having an advantage and connection. This is not just restricted to Peter and Zara, but also Princess Beatrice, Princess Eugenie, Lady Louise, Lady Amelia, David Armstrong-Jones (2nd Earl of Snowdon).

At least Peter and Zara are not getting into the muddy water of politics or other contentious issues. In the case of titled royal family members, who are not working royals, they are also not using their title for business/profit purposes
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:54 AM
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zara and mike are in trouble for endorsing a COVID app for sports:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54827965
Misleading title at best.

The ap, not the couple, have come under scrutiny. And as the article explains, the test that was being shown in the advertisement, was just for show. That the ap helps people book actual government certified covid tests with doctors.

Prime example of people making leaps without digging deeper (the critics).


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Gosh are her and her brother that desperate for money that they will attach their names to, market and sell anything from Chinese milk to Coronavirus testing kits and apps?
They are private citizens, have been since day one. They have no titles. They are free to make money.

Unlike her brother, Zara is not cashing in on her royal links. She isn't playing up the royal card like the milk.

Zara and Mike are both accomplished athletes. Both have names in sports. Endorsements are a common part of that industry.
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Old 11-18-2020, 02:38 AM
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Gosh are her and her brother that desperate for money that they will attach their names to, market and sell anything from Chinese milk to Coronavirus testing kits and apps?
Perhaps they did not get the Netflix deal!

They do not have royal titles, and are far, far away from the throne. I may think that the endorsement of the dodgy app impact's Zara's own brand, but she is well within her rights to be involved in it. Just as she was to advertise LAnd Rover and Rolex previously.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:17 AM
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Peter Phillips ad explicitly said that he was a member of the BRF, that's why he got into trouble, it was the equivalent of using HRH Prince Peter to sell stuff.

Zara has always trodden a fine line. A lot of her fame comes from the fact that she's the Queen's beautiful, "rebellious" horsy granddaughter (how many people know the names of other eventers off hand?) but she has built a profile off being an Olympian, Sports Personality of the Year and a friendly sports celebrity couple with Mike that doesn't rely on her family. Yes endorsing a dodgy COVID app was certainly a stupid thing to do but it won't blow back on the BRF.

As for money, who knows? In their non titled, private person position endorsing and advertising products is fine but they do have to be careful in what and how they do it e.g explicitly using the BRF or controversial things.
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Old 11-19-2020, 09:31 AM
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Misleading title at best.

The ap, not the couple, have come under scrutiny. And as the article explains, the test that was being shown in the advertisement, was just for show. That the ap helps people book actual government certified covid tests with doctors.

Prime example of people making leaps without digging deeper (the critics).




They are private citizens, have been since day one. They have no titles. They are free to make money.

Unlike her brother, Zara is not cashing in on her royal links. She isn't playing up the royal card like the milk.

Zara and Mike are both accomplished athletes. Both have names in sports. Endorsements are a common part of that industry.
Zara has been cashing in on her royal status from the very beginning long before her career as an accomplished horsewoman was established.
Since winning an Olympic medal and being successful she has more leeway in branding with major companies and advertising.

I get that she and Peter need to make money however the constant cashing in and working with brands makes it seem that they are just renting out there royal connections as the Queen's grand kids.
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:24 AM
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Mike Tindall took part in Hull4Heroes' campaign in filling Veterans Village Collection Box to support veterans.

Mike is featured in the beginning of the Hull4Heroes' video
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Great cause. They have given so much for us, now it is our turn. Thank you to all who help.
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