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Old 02-10-2020, 05:43 PM
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Just heard this on Sky News - although I think they've only picked it up from the newspapers. What a shame. They seemed very happy together ... although we don't see that much of them, so it's hard to tell. I'm sorry for the little girls. And I'm also sorry for the Queen: it's only the middle of February and it's already feeling like another annus horribilis.


I wouldn't generally trust the Sun, but it's not like them to make up a story about two relatively minor royals. From what the reports say, Autumn has asked for a divorce and Peter wasn't expecting it, but, again, the Sun isn't necessarily the most reliable of sources. Even at this time of night, I'd have expected an official denial if it wasn't true, though.
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Old 02-10-2020, 05:44 PM
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I have to say I am completely shocked by this news. They always seemed so happy! I always love the pictures of Anneís children and grandchildren all together at various equestrian events and itís been lovely to see Savannah and Isla walking to church at Christmas and on the balcony at Trooping. Iíd never have guessed there was marital problems.
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Old 02-10-2020, 05:50 PM
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ANOTHER 'body-blow' to HMQ, and the Duke of Edinburgh... and 'in short order'..
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Old 02-10-2020, 05:55 PM
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I find it impossible to believe that relocating to Canada while the childrenísí father stays in the UK would be best for them...
Well we can't speak for their personal situation. *IF* Autumn wants to go back to Canada (and frankly this is just speculation) than I doubt it is something she decided lightly for the very reasons you mention.

Again *if* she no longer wants to live in the UK and wants to be closer to her family than the girls will just divide their time between countries. It happens everyday with families.

They will do what it ultimately best for all involved. I wish them nothing but positive vibes.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:07 PM
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Well we can't speak for their personal situation. *IF* Autumn wants to go back to Canada (and frankly this is just speculation) than I doubt it is something she decided lightly for the very reasons you mention.

Again *if* she no longer wants to live in the UK and wants to be closer to her family than the girls will just divide their time between countries. It happens everyday with families.

They will do what it ultimately best for all involved. I wish them nothing but positive vibes.
I do wish them all the best - everything Iíve read makes it seem like they are lovely people. Ultimately itís their business alone...

What a lousy year for the BRF so far - so much heartbreak and separation.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:21 PM
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It's sad for the family but I see the knives coming out and they're planning to make Autumn the bad guy. She broadsided Peter with a divorce and he's devastated. No alleged third parties.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:21 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear this, but I had wondered a little bit when they weren't at Sandringham--it just seemed odd at the time.

Divorce is always a painful thing, even if it's amicable, and I feel for all the parties involved, especially the children.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:25 PM
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Sad news...

The Sun's Dan Wootton is reporting that Peter and Autumn have separated.
WHAT? That's so sad... Didn't see that coming at all (even though it was strange we didn't see them at Christmas - but visiting Autumn's family in Canada seemed like a normal reason for non-attendance - and Peter visiting the queen on his own also was a bit strange in hindsight). They always seemed such a lovely family - and the children were great company for both the Cambridge and Tindall cousins (but it also seemed that Autumn got along with her royal cousins really well), so I really hope they will stay close to them.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:35 PM
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ANOTHER 'body-blow' to HMQ, and the Duke of Edinburgh... and 'in short order'..
Its also proof positive that even though this is a royal family, they all have their ups and downs and insides out and trials and tribulations like families all over the world. As sad as an separation and perhaps an impending divorce is to all involved family wise, it makes me realize that the BRF, like everyone else, are not puppets on a string where life is all unicorns and rainbows 100% of the time.

HM, The Queen and the HRH The Duke of Edinburgh have had more than their share of family crises just recently within the past year and I sincerely believe that they will weather it all out together and support their family with love and understanding come what may.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:37 PM
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If true, Autumn will probably not appear at Beatrice's wedding.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:38 PM
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So, it seems this could have been Autumn's final (unofficial) royal activity?! If all turns out to be true. It's from less than 2 months ago when she got together with the Countess of Wessex (just before they 'vanished').

At the family outings in (March at Cheltenham, they seemed to be very much 'into' each other (less so in August; Gatcombe), so it makes you wonder what went horribly wrong over the last year.
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Here is the original piece from The Sun. It is claimed that the decision to separate was made by Mrs. Phillips and no third party was involved. It is not claimed that Mrs. Phillips intends to return to Canada; it only speculates that she could. There is no confirmation of the story.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/109358...s-wife-autumn/

I am surprised that this story is attracting a great deal of attention, since both Mr. and Mrs. Phillips are untitled private citizens who have never been part of the working royal family.
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Here is the original piece from The Sun. It is claimed that the decision to separate was made by Mrs. Phillips and no third party was involved. It is not claimed that Mrs. Phillips intends to return to Canada; it only speculates that she could. There is no confirmation of the story.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/109358...s-wife-autumn/

I am surprised that this story is attracting a great deal of attention, since both Mr. and Mrs. Phillips are untitled private citizens who have never been part of the working royal family.
Iím surprised by the story and saddened. I am not at all surprised it is getting attention. This is the Queenís eldest grandson after all.
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I am surprised that this story is attracting a great deal of attention, since both Mr. and Mrs. Phillips are untitled private citizens who have never been part of the working royal family.
And I'm surprised that you are surprised . Peter is the queen's eldest grandson, was the first to marry, the first to give HM great-grandchildren; and had a lovely family that could be seen at several eventing events each year. And while private citizens, they have been a constant feature at family events - and seem to be close to the Cambridges, so important confidants to the future king and queen.

So, I would have been surprised had the press not been interested in major life events of the queen's grandson - just because he is not a working member of the family.
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:09 PM
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Very very sad... shocking... so much more so than H&M leaving Britain... Peter and Autumn always seemed so happy.
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:20 PM
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Very shocked and saddened by the news. What an horrible serie of sad events in the British Royal Family !
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:23 PM
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IF true...sad for the whole family. Did not expect this news.



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Old 02-10-2020, 07:43 PM
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Iím surprised by the story and saddened. I am not at all surprised it is getting attention. This is the Queenís eldest grandson after all.


Exactly. Iíd be stunned if the press wasnít all over this.

Iím surprised and sad too. Didnít see it coming.

It does put their absence at the Christmas lunch and Sandringham in a different light. Not to mention Peter showing up at Sandringham during the H/M fallout.
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I cannot help but think that I really hope that this alleged separation/divorce has nothing to do with how the royal family handled the recent issues within the family (with Peter being of a different (opposing) opinion than Autumn). It is hard enough without family issues playing into it.

N.B. I am not blaming any of the other BRF members - just thought that a conflict about how the BRF handles such family issues (that played up over the last year) could be one of the issues that could cause them to feel that they are no longer on the same team.
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:51 PM
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I don’t know much about these two, but what a a terribly sad thing, it really is- and wrenching for children - for anyone. Divorce is littered through my family, and there was a lot of anguish, anger and heartbreak especially with my siblings’ divorces. I don’t know how something like this can be a shock, but that’s heartbreaking - especially for those poor kids; they’re BABIES.
Wow - yes, I agree, this is very sad if true. I definitely did not see this coming at all. I don't follow Peter and Autumn closely, but I am surprised anyone was predicting they would split. They looked like a happy couple and family from the outside. And yes, it is worst for the kids. I spend some time teaching kids and they are absolutely affected by the state of their parents' marriage - whether or not there is a divorce.
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