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08-27-2008, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade
Btw my sister had her nose operated for a deviated septum.... She said it was so painful that she would rather give birth to another child than having the operation redone.
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I haven't given birth yet so cannot compare but I agree with the pain factor. That and puking up blood for the first day or so, it is a horrible operation.
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08-27-2008, 11:21 AM
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Nasal septum deviation causes breathing problems. Septoplasty (nasal septum surgery) corrects a deviated nasal septum but the patient's nose remains the same than before. This procedure usually doesn't change the shape of nose outwardly.
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The operative word being usually, every person is different. I was told to have some cosmetic work because my breathing problems were quite severe and the op could have left permanent damage.
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08-27-2008, 01:58 PM
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Thanks! I will try it -
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08-27-2008, 02:04 PM
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Queen Elizabeth doesn't need a face lift --- she looks amazing for her age and her skin is radiant - "don't fix it if it isn't broken"
As for Queen Margarethe - she should have her teeth worked on just for her health -
bad teeth can lead to gum disease and that can affect your over-all health -
And as for Queen Silvia, I always thought that the best plastic surgeons were in Brazil - I guess that I was wrong!
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08-27-2008, 02:04 PM
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There you go argue with Little star, whom has had a nose job!  LOL! I had a friend that had her nose done. She hid in her house for at least 10 to 14 days. And my friend had the bruising and bandages that had to be worn for at least 10 days afterwards, just as Little star explained. It's simply impossible for Letizia to have had her nose done. She is likely the most frequently photographed of any of the wives of these crown princes. Besides her nose doesn't look any different to me. |
I am so glad that you said that. I can't see any big difference to cause all this resentful talk. I thought my eye sight was going with age. I never had any operations on my nose but a friend did [along with her eyes] and she was awful for weeks. Can't picture Letizia having that type of operation and be out and about days later. No amount of makeup would have covered my friend's bruising or swollen disfigurement.
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08-27-2008, 02:32 PM
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Well, feel free to call me stupid or whatever. But I fail to see a difference. I went and compared pics on my own at different sites. I would be too skeptical to believe some pics that are circulating in some of the articles on this subject. Tweaking can be done to the pics you know? Overall, I think this is quite pathetic. I would be surprised if she did have a nose job. Not appalled just surprised because why now? It makes little sense to me. She has been in this royal family and in the limelight for 4 years now. And also she was in front of the cameras before she was even a princess. Therefore I'm inclined to believe what the royal family has reported. People have nothing better to do then to spin this into "OMG, the princess had a nose job." Please, give me a break! Why are people so quick to not believe what the royal family has reported? Are they known LIARS? Because basically that's what everyone is calling the royal family right now. How appalling! Absolutely appalling!!!
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08-27-2008, 05:33 PM
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Well, feel free to call me stupid or whatever. But I fail to see a difference. I went and compared pics on my own at different sites. I would be too skeptical to believe some pics that are circulating in some of the articles on this subject. Tweaking can be done to the pics you know? Overall, I think this is quite pathetic. I would be surprised if she did have a nose job. Not appalled just surprised because why now? It makes little sense to me. She has been in this royal family and in the limelight for 4 years now. And also she was in front of the cameras before she was even a princess.
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Exactly! She's been in the public eye for many many years, long before she met Felipe.
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08-27-2008, 06:22 PM
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El Confidencial.com - Diario de Robinson - Letizia no es el primer miembro de la familia real que se somete a un tratamiento estético
Indeed, Letizia Ortiz was predestined to revolutionize the habits of the Zarzuela. For example, introducing to its political Royal Family in the pleasures of the aesthetic surgery. Nevertheless, it is necessary to check the journalistic passion by the originality and the first fruit.
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08-27-2008, 06:25 PM
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MonarquÃ*a Confidencial
Zarzuela denies that the Princess of Asturias has operated of the chin and the face
Wednesday, 27 of August of 2008
Perhaps the error was not to announce the operation previously, or perhaps immediately later. But the fact that they were the photographers, and some journalists, those who, with their questions, to Zarzuela were able to keep awake the operation of nose of Do6na Letizia, continue giving that to speak. Until the point of which the own House of the King has had to clarify that the Princess of Asturias has not operated of the chin nor of the face. Only the nose.
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08-27-2008, 06:35 PM
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I think that she did not have to operate the nose so that prince Felipe knew already it thus and when he saw the TV said "qué chica más guapa" ... " I think that she this good thus… with its small imperfections.
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08-27-2008, 07:12 PM
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I don't know what she has done but she looks so different in these pictures. Honestly, if she wasn't next to Prince Felipe, I would not have said it was Letizia!
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08-27-2008, 07:18 PM
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Something must have clicked with Letizia --- she has been wearing tighter clothes lately - the bright green dress, for example. She has seemed more confidant. With some women, just an off-hand remark by the husband can cause a woman to have plastic surgery. Maybe feeling more confidant in her role, she thinks that this one small imperfection (to her, the nose) is making her not perfect.
And again, I think that as the years go by, the bump on her nose would become more pronounced - better to get rid of it now rather than later.
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08-27-2008, 09:35 PM
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I wonder what Elena and Cristina think now! I don't see Cristina as having any cosmetic surgery--much less Elena. Is this good press for the Royal House? I wonder what Juan Carlos thinks about all this?
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08-27-2008, 10:14 PM
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I wonder what Elena and Cristina think now! I don't see Cristina as having any cosmetic surgery--much less Elena. Is this good press for the Royal House? I wonder what Juan Carlos thinks about all this?
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Both sisters do join 'the thinner the better' club since Letizia joined the family  . JC was photographed outside a plastic surgeon's office years ago. Even if he didn't do anything himself (not his nose for sure), cosmetic surgery doesn't seem anything new to him. Only people have short memories  .
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08-27-2008, 10:48 PM
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I wonder what Elena and Cristina think now! I don't see Cristina as having any cosmetic surgery--much less Elena. Is this good press for the Royal House? I wonder what Juan Carlos thinks about all this?
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I don't think that most of the normal people in Spain really care about this operation. Doesn't change their lives one iota. I also don't believe it would have been done without Juan Carlos' permission.
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08-28-2008, 12:46 AM
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If her nose was curved in Beijing that would mean she has had her nose fixed in the past week. It's very doubtful considering there is not scaring, and she was never seen with any sort of bandage. (I don't know much about nose jobs, but from what I know, there is usually a bit of swelling after an operation, even one that is as uninvasive as this sort of operation sounds.)
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08-28-2008, 01:26 AM
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I have been reading thru all these many pages and cracking up. What ppl believe just makes me fall out of my chair laughing.
There was only 12 days between pictures that I could find of her, on the 8th and then again on the 21st. That's not enough time for her to have an actual nose job. It takes 2 to 3 weeks just for the bandages to be removed. At that point the swelling is still apparent. Not to mention some bruising could still be noticeable and the incision marks would definitely be visible.
The royal family must be so frustrated with this whole thing. They did not have to say anything and yet they chose to. So why can't people accept what they reported instead of inventing a different version. I suppose because the truth is not interesting enough for many.
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08-28-2008, 08:41 AM
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Personally I have no idea if it was for medical reason or not so I will just take the Zarauela announcement as truth. What I do think made things more awkward is not the fault of Princess Letizia but the press managers at Zarzuela.
They should have announced on the day of the correction or perhaps before. A simple announcement such as "On (date) the Princess will be undergoing a minor medical correction and will resume her duties on (date)"
Instead the provided a late excuse after everyone had already seen pictures and started gossiping about the cause. To me it was almost as if they were waiting to see if anyone would notice the change.
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08-28-2008, 10:06 AM
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It's Zarzuela polite. When prince Felipe damaged his hand, in 2005, Zarzuela don't said nothing, only when the prince go out in public. This is the same, isn't a serious medical problem. Of course, if she has a serious problem Zarzuela probably comunicated it.
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08-28-2008, 06:35 PM
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It's Zarzuela polite. When prince Felipe damaged his hand, in 2005, Zarzuela don't said nothing, only when the prince go out in public. This is the same, isn't a serious medical problem. Of course, if she has a serious problem Zarzuela probably comunicated it.
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I agree with you. If there hadn't been a plane accident, and we saw her so soon after the minor surgery, none of this resentful speculation would be taking place. The Royal House or Government does not have to say a word -- no one's business but theirs. I give Letizia credit for going out and about as she knew exactly what would be said . An excuse could have been made for her absence and then the rest of the weird ones would be having a field day saying she was "again having a hard pregnancy".
This entire fiasco about her nose and the way they handled it, makes me like Letizia and Felipe all the more. 
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