The Princess of Asturias Undergoes Operation for Respiratory Problems: August 2008

[giov]

I am curious to see more new pics of princess Letizia. I hope the operation hasn''t changed her face too much.
When is she supposed to appear again on a public event?
I guess there will be hundreds of paparazzi taking pics of her new nose.

Originally Posted by Odette

In my view those who truly hate Letizia need as much therapy as those who adore her.

Dear Odette, I couldn't agree more!

[Camarina]

[quote=Odette;815350]

Originally Posted by crm2317

In my view those who truly hate Letizia need as much therapy as those who adore her.

In my opinion you are wrong. The hatred and admiration are two very different feelings, obviously people who hate have a big problem.
For the simple fact to defend and believe in the words of doctors as many of us, we have to go to therapy? really ridiculous. The problem is people who criticize systematically and thinks other people are not honest.

[LadyS]

If you look at the photos from the Spanish Royal Family after the Madrid plane crash - her nose is quite different but I also think that there is still some swelling because the bridge of her nose looks wider than before.

I suppose she wasn't expected to be in the public view so soon but because of the plane crash they had to make an appearance in public.

[sweetness]

Originally Posted by Roxsteve

The difference between Maxima and Letizia is that Maxima would have no problem saying that she would have cosmetic surgery. I don't think Maxima is the type who cares. She looks beautiful with wrinkles. Letizia will lie till the end and say it was for cosmetic reasons--I think that's what makes me mad. I can care less if she has cosmetic surgery, but don't take us for fools that it was done for medical reasons. Just be honest and say it.

Those are pretty strong statements, do you know Letizia or her doctor personally and therefore know for a FACT that she couldn't have done it for medical reasons?

Since I don't know her personally and she is not known to have told porky pies in the past, I will give take her (and Zarzuela's) word for it...

[sweetness]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Well, I have been around as Dutch royalty watcher since the mid 90-ties and I know pretty much all that is written about Maxima in the Dutch press. It was never even hinted that Maxima had any form of cosmetic surgery, it has never been announced by the court etc. This is the first time I 'hear' about it. So it is safe to assume that Maxima didn't have cosmetic surgery at all. Not that it matters that much of course.

My apogogies if I have falsely stated that Maxima had plastic surgeries....my comment was based on what was said previously in this thread. So, let me this is right....there was no report in the press, allegedly saying or hinting that Maxima had had liposuction done? Thanks in advance to anyone who would be kind enough to clarify that for me.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by sweetness

My apogogies if I have falsely stated that Maxima had plastic surgeries....my comment was based on what was said previously in this thread. So, let me this is right....there was no report in the press, allegedly saying or hinting that Maxima had had liposuction done? Thanks in advance to anyone who would be kind enough to clarify that for me.

I have never read it in any Dutch newspaper/magazine/gossip rag thus far .

[tdarlene]

Yellow/pink portuguese press are reporting the princess not only had a nose job, but also operated her chin, and injected botox mainly in her cheeks. I personnaly don't believe it, obviously she had the nose job that was confirmed by the Casa Real, wether it was for medical reasons or not I think is something we have nothing to do about, it's a personnal choice. I don't believe she changed also her chin and put botox, firstly these kind of press is not to be believe due recent headlines and stories they are taking from those kind of german tabloid press, and secondly because she's recovering from the surgery and obviously her face looks diferent, a little bloated.
But I'm sure in a few days, she will look good as always, and doing her job right as always.

[Odette]

[quote=Camarina;815569]

Originally Posted by Odette

In my opinion you are wrong. The hatred and admiration are two very different feelings, obviously people who hate have a big problem.
For the simple fact to defend and believe in the words of doctors as many of us, we have to go to therapy? really ridiculous. The problem is people who criticize systematically and thinks other people are not honest.

I did not mention admiration. I mentioned adoration. One can admire a beautiful building, a lovely mind, a gorgeous person. However one can see faults and negatives on the subject. To adore a stranger one never met and obviously the stranger has no clue the adorer exists, see no faults have reasons for everything one does or does not, borders the absurd. The same goes for people who hate people they never met, never had any contact with and the subject they hate would not know them if they bumped into them. IMHO both are sick feelings.
If you feel compelled to contradict everyone who finds faults or criticises Letizia, you have every right to do so. However one must understand there are others with different opinions as strong as yours or even stronger.

[Anntw]

Ten Pages about a nose! WoW!!!!!!! People relax!

[Camarina]

[quote=Odette;815644]

Originally Posted by Camarina

I did not mention admiration. I mentioned adoration. One can admire a beautiful building, a lovely mind, a gorgeous person. However one can see faults and negatives on the subject. To adore a stranger one never met and obviously the stranger has no clue the adorer exists, see no faults have reasons for everything one does or does not, borders the absurd. The same goes for people who hate people they never met, never had any contact with and the subject they hate would not know them if they bumped into them. IMHO both are sick feelings.
If you feel compelled to contradict everyone who finds faults or criticises Letizia, you have every right to do so. However one must understand there are others with different opinions as strong as yours or even stronger.

Interesting speech Odette but ... many of us simply believe in the word of doctors and Casa Real, I do not understand why they should lie? I personally am not a disbelief person nor I have a warped mind.
The problem is who has doubted EVERYTHING.

[Odette]

Camarina, personally I could not care less if all of them line up and get nipped and tucked for whatever reasons they choose. It does not matter to me if a procedure is done for medical or cosmetic reasons. If you read a few posts back, I wrote that I like Letizia's new nose.
However a lot of people may doubt the casa real announcement not because they "hate" Letizia but because they do not believe everything they hear.

[anabela921]

From que me dices

http://www.quemedices.es/noticias_fa...opera_la_nariz

[iowabelle]

If the woman had apnea like I do, I sympathize with her having surgery. If I could afford it, I'd do it in a minute

[princess gertrude]

Originally Posted by MadziaMarta

Ten Pages about a nose! WoW!!!!!!! People relax!

Wow's right! Did we talk this much about Queen Silvia?

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Odette

However a lot of people may doubt the casa real announcement not because they "hate" Letizia but because they do not believe everything they hear.

Royal Houses will only admit facts that cannot be denied and the Spanish are no exception. In this case they had to admit the nose job because everybody can see and decided to give a medical background to justify the operation in the first place (and it may have been the main reason, we don't know). In case there was a cosmetical motivation too which is very likely IMO they would never admit because nobody can prove that there wasn't. Royal statements may tell one truth but may also hold back another truth at the same time, depending on what is best for the public image.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by princess gertrude

Wow's right! Did we talk this much about Queen Silvia?

Thankfully not... and no, that is not a hint to rush off to the Swedish forum all together

Originally Posted by madziamarta

Ten Pages about a nose! WoW!!!!!!! People relax!

Amen to that!

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

Royal Houses will only admit facts that cannot be denied and the Spanish are no exception. In this case they had to admit the nose job because everybody can see and decided to give a medical background to justify the operation in the first place (and it may have been the main reason, we don't know). In case there was a cosmetical motivation too which is very likely IMO they would never admit because nobody can prove that there wasn't. Royal statements may tell one truth but may also hold back another truth at the same time, depending on what is best for the public image.

You are absolutely correct. A lot of people can take the statement as half truth and run with it. There are still people who will doubt or wonder about any and every fact they hear or read about.
In a world of 24/7 TV and all sorts of news masquerading as informed sources, it is not always easy to figure what is what.

[crm2317]

[quote=Camarina;815569]

Originally Posted by Odette

In my opinion you are wrong. The hatred and admiration are two very different feelings, obviously people who hate have a big problem.
For the simple fact to defend and believe in the words of doctors as many of us, we have to go to therapy? really ridiculous. The problem is people who criticize systematically and thinks other people are not honest.

I would like to point out that it was not me who made the comment about Haters needing therapy as much as the adorers. I do not know why I am being quoted as saying that above!

[Odette]

[quote=crm2317;815763]

Originally Posted by Camarina

I would like to point out that it was not me who made the comment about Haters needing therapy as much as the adorers. I do not know why I am being quoted as saying that above!

crm2317 I am the one who made the statement and Camarina responded. I have no idea how you were quoted. You are innocent. It was my statement. (Odette speaking)

[Marengo]

I think there is something wrong with the quote tags here.

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Anyway, if people want to start a discussion about Letizia haters/supporters and common sense they can do that in this thread, which deals with posting habits in the Spanish forum. Further remarks about the topic in this thread will be deleted.

Thank you.