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01-21-2016, 09:13 PM
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The spouses should receive orders from The Queen, and the King of Spain should give Camilla and Cambridge's orders.
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01-22-2016, 12:31 AM
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That has to do with the British policy not to decorate female royal spouses. Prince Hendrik of the Netherlands, Prince Félix of Luxembourg, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, Prince Henrik of Denmark and Prince Claus of the Netherlands all got British decorations.
Queen Sonja of Norway, Queen Silvia of Sweden, Queen Fabiola of the Belgians, Grand-Duchess María Teresa of Luxembourg, etc.: nope... That is also the answer why Diana or Camilla's foreign orders are so rare. Queen Juliana and Queen Beatrix were not so petty. During their Reigns ladies as Queen Elizabeth (QETQM), The Princess Margaret, The Princess Anne, The Princess of Wales, Princess Alice of Athlone, Princess Alice of Gloucester, Princess Marina of Kent, all received a visible token of esteem and respect by the Dutch monarch, the latter not feeling hindranced by reciprocity-feelings of 'revenge' in their royal will and pleasure.
As long as the British Queen keeps her policy towards female spouses, Doña Letizia will remain without a British Order.
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wow, i didn't know this - what a shame for letizia, as for all other female spouses. i'd understand it if the men spouses don't receive it too (after all, that's all they are, the spouses...), but to give it to the men and not the women seems unfair. i guess it was OK in prior times for the queen to do so, and now, for consistency, she has kept her approach, but i imagine this will change with charles.
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01-22-2016, 02:26 AM
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wow, i didn't know this - what a shame for letizia, as for all other female spouses. i'd understand it if the men spouses don't receive it too (after all, that's all they are, the spouses...), but to give it to the men and not the women seems unfair. i guess it was OK in prior times for the queen to do so, and now, for consistency, she has kept her approach, but i imagine this will change with charles.
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It might be the case that female spouses have fewer decorations, but i think the story around it is Duc-et-Pair's opinion rather than fact....
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01-22-2016, 04:38 AM
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It might be the case that female spouses have fewer decorations, but i think the story around it is Duc-et-Pair's opinion rather than fact....
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But that doe not change the fact that Prince Henrik has the Royal Victorian Order and Queens Silvia, Sonja and Solfia don't have it. Queen Paola also has no british order but there was not State Visit between Belgium and the UK during her husbands reign.
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Well, likely not from Elizabeth II. But from Charles? That belongs in the when he is king thread, but it will be interesting to see his take on the mutual sharing of orders.
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As the State Visit is in March it will be Elizabeth II. who gives out Orders or not. But certainly why can't know what will hapen at future State Visits between the 2 countries once there is a King Charles.
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01-27-2017, 06:40 PM
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Now that there is talk of a State Visit to Japan ,Letizia may receive a Japanese order?
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01-28-2017, 04:35 PM
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Now that there is talk of a State Visit to Japan ,Letizia may receive a Japanese order?
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I guess Queen Letizia will receive the Order of Precious Crown- 1st class
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01-28-2017, 07:05 PM
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I guess Queen Letizia will receive the Order of Precious Crown- 1st class
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Yes as Queen Sofia,Infantas Elena and Cristina were all given the Grand Cordon of the Order of the Precious Crown.
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01-29-2017, 09:06 AM
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Yes as Queen Sofia,Infantas Elena and Cristina were all given the Grand Cordon of the Order of the Precious Crown.
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The same for Q. Maxima and Q. Mathilde during their state visits to Japan.
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07-27-2017, 08:18 AM
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Queen Letizia did receive the Grand Cordon (Paulwonia) of the Order of the Precious Crown from Japan but nothing as expected from the UK.
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07-27-2017, 08:28 AM
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Queen Letizia has the Spanish Order of Charles III ( (Carlos III in Spanish), but I believe she hasn't received the collar of the order yet, unlike her mother-in-law. I wonder why.
I also wonder why queen consorts of Spain don't receive the Order of the Golden Fleece. As far as I know, only the Princess of Asturias currently has it in the family besides, of course, the King and his father.
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07-27-2017, 08:38 AM
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Queen Letizia has the Spanish Order of Charles III ( (Carlos III in Spanish), but I believe she hasn't received the collar of the order yet, unlike her mother-in-law. I wonder why.
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I think i read once that Queen Sofia got it for her 50th birthday so she also hadn't it from early on.
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Queen Letizia's Orders
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Queen Letizia has the Spanish Order of Charles III ( (Carlos III in Spanish), but I believe she hasn't received the collar of the order yet, unlike her mother-in-law. I wonder why.
I also wonder why queen consorts of Spain don't receive the Order of the Golden Fleece. As far as I know, only the Princess of Asturias currently has it in the family besides, of course, the King and his father.
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My guess is the same about why Letizia hasn't been made Knight Grand Cross with Collar of the Order of Charles III
But as for the Order of the Golden Fleece, consorts (Spanish or foreign) and even spouses of foreign royalty will not receive the Order of the Golden Fleece, it is only awarded to rulers and Princes and Princesses in their own right but not all of them as was done before in the 19th century and previously, so very limited people will be Knights, but many are expected, for example.
Denmark: Crown Prince Frederick and Prince Christian
Sweden: Crown Princess Victoria and Princess Estelle
Norway: Crown Prince Haakon and Princess Ingrid-Alexandra
The Netherlands: King William-Alexander and Princess Catharina-Amalia
Belgium: King Phillipe and Princess Elisabeth
United Kingdom: Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince George
Luxembourg: Prince Guillaime, Prince Felix and Princess Amalia (the latter most probably if Guilliame doesn't have children)
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01-11-2018, 12:54 AM
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Usally he will get a lower Order first: the RVO or the Royal Victorian Chain and then in a couple of years will get the Garter.
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Felipe was already Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order
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