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06-19-2014, 11:53 PM
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The governors of Catalonia, Galatia and Basque country were sneering during HM Felipe's speech. Very disrespectful.
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06-20-2014, 02:55 AM
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Well, at least they were there. In the Netherlands various republican MP's refused to attend the ceremony.
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06-20-2014, 03:40 AM
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The governors of Catalonia, Galatia and Basque country were sneering during HM Felipe's speech. Very disrespectful.
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Disrespectful and also un-democratic! If ever these governors were to see independence in their regions or Spain become a republic, they would expect and hope for everyone to show respect for those situations. Perhaps they should read through King Felipe's speech once again and take in what he said and act with some more grace and pragmatism!
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06-20-2014, 04:15 AM
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06-20-2014, 04:24 AM
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Do you think there Will be any official potriats soon?
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06-20-2014, 05:29 AM
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Do you think there Will be any official potriats soon?
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Yes, I would expect new official portraits to be released soon.
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06-20-2014, 05:34 AM
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 They certainly should. The media reported yesterday that the protraits were made last week and I was expecting them today. They have to remplace the portraits of Juan Carlos and Sofia for the ones of Felipe and Letizia in every public building in Spain, so they shouldn last much longer.
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06-20-2014, 05:47 AM
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A real sad beginning for the new constitutional King of Spain Felipe VI who did not attend Mass before the ceremony of becoming the new Sovereign of a country known for its Catholic tradition. He did not swear his oath on the Bible and he did not mention in his speech anything about the Catholic heritage of Spain, anything about the Catholic faith of the majority of the Spanish and he avoided mentioning anything about the positive role of the Church in the life of Spain. He did not ask for God's blessing for his reign and he did not want to be linked in any way with the faith of his ancestors and of his country. The Spanish Catholics must certainly reflect on the behaviour of this Head of State who abandoned the Catholic traditions of his House and of his own people
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06-20-2014, 05:52 AM
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The governors of Catalonia, Galatia and Basque country were sneering during HM Felipe's speech. Very disrespectful.
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Very childish of them,they'd have proved a better point by not attending the ceremony.
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06-20-2014, 06:03 AM
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A real sad beginning for the new constitutional King of Spain Felipe VI who did not attend Mass before the ceremony of becoming the new Sovereign of a country known for its Catholic tradition. He did not swear his oath on the Bible and he did not mention in his speech anything about the Catholic heritage of Spain, anything about the Catholic faith of the majority of the Spanish and he avoided mentioning anything about the positive role of the Church in the life of Spain. He did not ask for God's blessing for his reign and he did not want to be linked in any way with the faith of his ancestors and of his country. The Spanish Catholics must certainly reflect on the behaviour of this Head of State who abandoned the Catholic traditions of his House and of his own people
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Yep, what an atheist king he is. That is why his first official visit abroad will be to the Vatican, to show everybody how disrespectful he is towards the Catholic Faith
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06-20-2014, 06:20 AM
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Well, I am sure most Spaniards didn't miss it. Only 13% of the Spanish catholics (71,7% of the total population in 2011) go to mass on a regular basis.
Spain – church attendance « Via Integra
If he had highlighted the positive role, I suppose he should also have highlighted the negative role of the church in Spain. So I am glad that he avoided the issue all together.
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06-20-2014, 06:45 AM
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And why did he avoided to swear on the Bible?
He avoided yesterday anything linked with the Catholic faith. None of his ancestors would have done the same.
A really sad beginning for this "lay" Head of State.
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06-20-2014, 06:48 AM
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 Because he must swear over the Constitution. The Constitution itself says so.
He basically swears that he will respect it and will reign following its principles.
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Isabel, ep. 26
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06-20-2014, 06:52 AM
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And why did he avoided to swear on the Bible?
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Based on your posts I understand that Catholicism is very important to you. Key word you. And that is certainly your right. And yet you don't know Felipe's relationship with God. You might assume it because what you interpret to be his lack of faith based on these actions. Don't read too much into it because unless you have had a personal conversation with him, you really don't know of his relationship with God, or why he choose note to swear on the Bible, not to have a mass, etc.
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
I am assuming that unlike Queen Elizabeth II he is not the head of Church, that would be the Pope correct?
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06-20-2014, 07:15 AM
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I saw the whole Proclamation on Belgian TV. GREAT ROYAL EVENT and such a lot of people when they were on the balcony.
What a great Son for his Father the former King and his Mother the Dowager Queen. There was really love and since the beginning of his Childhood.
What a difference of what is happening now in Belgium actually.
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06-20-2014, 07:21 AM
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I saw the whole Proclamation on Belgian TV. GREAT ROYAL EVENT and such a lot of people when they were on the balcony.
What a great Son for his Father the former King and his Mother the Dowager Queen. There was really love and since the beginning of his Childhood.
What a difference of what is happening now in Belgium actually.
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Queen Sofia is not a Dowager Queen,her husband is still alive
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06-20-2014, 07:23 AM
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The governors of Catalonia, Galatia and Basque country were sneering during HM Felipe's speech. Very disrespectful.
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What about popular feeling in those areas, and specifically Catalonia?
Did people watch and care -in their homes, cafes, congregations..? Was there any mass screening, or general feeling of pride/sympathy to Felipe?
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06-20-2014, 08:16 AM
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Poor Pipe, that photo is everywhere today. He looks so done with everything
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