Prince and Princess of Asturias's Official Visit to China: November 14-16, 2007

[highpriestess]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

Well, I meant it that way: with all due respect, reading the news from a prompter cannot be the hight of profession for a serious journalist. We don't know why she decided or others decided that she was the one to present the evening news only a few months or weeks before her engagement to Felipe was confirmed. Letizia always described herself as a serious journalist and not as a newsreader therefore I don't see that she has reached the height of her profession as you have stated earlier - but it's without any doubt a good career that would have gone further without Felipe.

You seem to be under the impression that "serious journalist" and "newsreader" (we call "news anchor" in US) are two separate career tracks and someone can be one but not another. In US, those two are the very same track. You don't become a "news anchor" without spending years as a serious journalist. Most news anchors also serve as the editor of the news they broadcast and wield considerable power in determining what news to pursue, whether a news gets in or how it's presented. You don't get there by not being a serious journalist. In TV journalism, news anchor chair is the height of the profession. You don't get there by looks.

Considering the important news events - 2000 US presidential election, 9/11 World Trade Center, Galacia oil spill, Iraq war - Letizia covered during her short but brilliant career, I have to think Spain is the same way.

You also said: "We don't know why she decided or others decided that she was the one to present the evening news only a few months or weeks before her engagement to Felipe was confirmed." So you think she got there because of Felipe connection. This conspiracy theory has been denied repeatedly by her boss. I have not read a report that says her bosses even knew she's dating Felipe when they gave her the evening news anchor job. IIRC, the engagement was decided long after she got the job. So even if her bosses knew she's dating Felipe, why would they give such an important job to someone whose only qualifiction is being Felipe's girlfriend? How did they know she wouldn't be one more Felipe's exes within three months? Considering her meteoric rise in her career before she started dating Felipe, wouldn't it make more sense that she got the job by herself? Of course, for anyone who's determined to discount her career, the conspiracy theory is a convenient excuse.

[LadyFinn]

A couple of more photos from the visit:
Princess Letizia
IBL Bildbyrå
Minister of Commerce Bo Xilai, Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia
IBL Bildbyrå
Minister of Commerce Bo Xilai shakes hands with Prince Felipe
IBL Bildbyrå

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by highpriestess

You seem to be under the impression that "serious journalist" and "newsreader" (we call "news anchor" in US) are two separate career tracks and someone can be one but not another. In US, those two are the very same track. You don't become a "news anchor" without spending years as a serious journalist. Most news anchors also serve as the editor of the news they broadcast and wield considerable power in determining what news to pursue, whether a news gets in or how it's presented. You don't get there by not being a serious journalist. In TV journalism, news anchor chair is the height of the profession. You don't get there by looks.

Considering the important news events - 2000 US presidential election, 9/11 World Trade Center, Galacia oil spill, Iraq war - Letizia covered during her short but brilliant career, I have to think Spain is the same way.

You also said: "We don't know why she decided or others decided that she was the one to present the evening news only a few months or weeks before her engagement to Felipe was confirmed." So you think she got there because of Felipe connection. This conspiracy theory has been denied repeatedly by her boss. I have not read a report that says her bosses even knew she's dating Felipe when they gave her the evening news anchor job. IIRC, the engagement was decided long after she got the job. So even if her bosses knew she's dating Felipe, why would they give such an important job to someone whose only qualifiction is being Felipe's girlfriend? How did they know she wouldn't be one more Felipe's exes within three months? Considering her meteoric rise in her career before she started dating Felipe, wouldn't it make more sense that she got the job by herself? Of course, for anyone who's determined to discount her career, the conspiracy theory is a convenient excuse.

Many thanks for your brillant explanation. As far I know in France it's the same cursus, none of the anchoormen/women who are working today in TV a re very serious journalists, first.
Then, even it's not the place to discuss about this issue, one more time quiet all the threads regarding the Princes of Asturias together or seperatly have part of theirs posts on topics regarding the Princess of Asturias, her past, her career, her personality and the most astonishing her warderobe when it's an event done by the Princess herself as if it was not possible that Letizia Ortiz could be here wher she is without mysterious events or machinations and what else.

It is a thread about the Princes of Asturias visit in China. Since their departure from Madrid it was clear that this visit wouldn't have a great mediatic cover because in the official plane of the Princes there were few information agencies at the oposite to the first trip in the last july. Everybody knows that the journalists travel the most part of the time in the same plane that the Princes. Yes the reasons of the Iboamerica summit is true but not the separation of the Dukes of Lugo which happened during the Princes's whithout that the press can imagine this issues.

The chief of this mission was the Princes of Asturias who travelled with his wife as a consort. Everybody has noticed that no gala dinner or at least official one was not on the agenda, but the important thing was to give to the chinese interlocutors the image of a young, modern, and professionnal princely couple. May be it's only marketing reflexion but evenif the Princess didn't have any official rolr in this trip, as the spouse of the Crown Prince her place was totally legitime. For me all the other considerations are padding as I had yet express it. That' all for the cinese trip, isen't it?

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

A couple of more photos from the visit:
Princess Letizia
IBL Bildbyrå
Minister of Commerce Bo Xilai, Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia
IBL Bildbyrå
Minister of Commerce Bo Xilai shakes hands with Prince Felipe
IBL Bildbyrå

Many thanks for the link, but..... we need to download? or a a simple pass word is enough.

Please if you have a pass word can you tell us ? Thanks again

[LadyFinn]

From Sina English:
Spain's Crown Prince visits Forbidden City

[donnaK]

adelaide, here are the pictures:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9...0591467bn9.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9...0591470sh6.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9...0591469eh6.jpg

[giov]

Thanks Donnak for the nice pics!
They both look tired but great!

[adelaide]

Many thanks for all the links an the shots. It's true that the quality of the pic is not quiet good but yes, the princes look very good and tired too.
I beleuve that this short trip was very tiring with the lenght of the fly the number of the meetings, the different places visited. In a certain way happily that the Princes didn't had official dinner with a dress code. To bad for the discussion, isen't it? but may be better the Princes's strengths.

[highpriestess]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

From Sina English:
Spain's Crown Prince visits Forbidden City

I stand corrected. In these photos, there were some tourists in the frame. So I guess they didn't clear the Forbidden City for F&L. Thanks for the photos.

[Duke of Marmalade]

[quote=highpriestess;694933]

You seem to be under the impression that "serious journalist" and "newsreader" (we call "news anchor" in US) are two separate career tracks and someone can be one but not another. In US, those two are the very same track. You don't become a "news anchor" without spending years as a serious journalist. Most news anchors also serve as the editor of the news they broadcast and wield considerable power in determining what news to pursue, whether a news gets in or how it's presented. You don't get there by not being a serious journalist. In TV journalism, news anchor chair is the height of the profession. You don't get there by looks.

To make it short: I still don't share your opinion that Letizia had already reached the height of her profession with 31. Maybe she was on her way up there, nothing more, nothing less. And yes, looks are important, at least for female anchors. I doubt Letizia had been given the opportunity to anchor the TVE eve news in case she was fat & ugly, so to say. She had the whole package, knowledge, looks, made a good impression. This is how it goes.

You also said: "We don't know why she decided or others decided that she was the one to present the evening news only a few months or weeks before her engagement to Felipe was confirmed." So you think she got there because of Felipe connection. This conspiracy theory has been denied repeatedly by her boss. I have not read a report that says her bosses even knew she's dating Felipe when they gave her the evening news anchor job. IIRC, the engagement was decided long after she got the job. So even if her bosses knew she's dating Felipe, why would they give such an important job to someone whose only qualifiction is being Felipe's girlfriend? How did they know she wouldn't be one more Felipe's exes within three months? Considering her meteoric rise in her career before she started dating Felipe, wouldn't it make more sense that she got the job by herself? Of course, for anyone who's determined to discount her career, the conspiracy theory is a convenient excuse.

Yes, this is my statement and it's completely your own interpretation and suggestion that I wanted to indicate that Felipe was behind Letizia's promotion since my sentence does not include the slightest hint in that direction. Please allow me to quote donnaK since she explained in her post exactly what I meant: Letizia had line managers - "others" - who had their reasons to decide that she would become the new anchor and if I thought Felipe was behind their decision I would have said so - I am not, therefore your interpretation of my sentence is completely wrong.

donnaK
But I don't think she had reached the height of her profession yet at 31. TVE wanted to have her replace Urdaci eventually, with the Socialists coming into power and giving women lots of important positions, she had a very good chance to be the solo anchor at the everning news totally dominated by men. There is no doubt Letizia had a great career among her generation journalists.

Well said, donnaK, agree 100%

[asturiana]

I haven't seen this pictures. Hola.com says it was from the trip to China.

[carlota]

Originally Posted by asturiana

I haven't seen this pictures. Hola.com says it was from the trip to China.

she looks great, although i haven't seen the picture either! maybe it's of the private reception by the ambassador?

[Little_star]

Thanks for all the photos.

I'm slightly disappointed that there are not more photos of this trip as the content seems interesting. These sorts of trips are very important, imo and it's good to see Felipe and Letizia undertaking a "serious" Royal trip.

Sometimes it can seem like a foreign trips are all "fluff", it's good to see this one does not fall into that category!

[emilieweber2004]

thanks for the link of the pictures but i am not so sure that it is in china . That's a bit weird to me that casareal didn't put any pictures of that outfit. I don't think that it was the private reception because letizia looks dressed up for a private party . Here is a pic from hola ( i just click on the pictures and the all outfit appears)
here it is from hola
http://s2.supload.com/free/1371-amp-noviembre4-letizia-1a.jpg/view/

[madeleine victoria]

I love her outfits from their arrival up to the last event except pairing stockings with orange dress. The dress alone is good but paired with stockings, not! Her arrival outfit is really good plus that oversized bag, really chic! I agree this trip to China doesn't get much press but it's quite ok. The most important thing is that Spain and China do have covers or at least pictures because these are the concerned countries.