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They have dealt with it in the most graceful manner possible (neither of them or anyone else speaking about it) however at least for me it leaves a bad aftertaste not for the woman Letizia Ortiz in a society where divorce happens quite often but for Dona Letizia The Princess of Asturias, a future Queen, meaning the moment when she became connected to royalty. It does harm the credibility of any monarchy when royals are no different to common people and their everyday problems or failures. In this context for me it's a huge difference between only living with Alonso for 10 years and then split rather than giving a committment by getting married, the same committment by the way that she gave Felipe only 5 years later, a fact open to interpretation for everyone. I think it would have been much better for her reputation if she had not been married before and somehow it never really fitted into her CV / lifestyle from what we have seen pre-marriage (career woman etc). She must have had a weak or lunatic moment when deciding to tie the knot with Alonso, maybe it had to do with the imminent breakdown of her parents' marriage.
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08-11-2008, 04:46 PM
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having a first marriage behind me, i wouldn't begin to hold hers against letizia (everyone makes mistakes and has a right to privacy on painful parts of their pasts, as long as they haven't lied or pretended something not the truth) I know nothing about Mr Guerrero but i have great respect for him not speaking or making money off the princess (i'm sure it's been offered) he is showing dignity and class IMO.
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08-11-2008, 04:56 PM
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Are there any pictures of Letizia on her first wedding day as it would be interesting to see
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08-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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having a first marriage behind me, i wouldn't begin to hold hers against letizia (everyone makes mistakes and has a right to privacy on painful parts of their pasts, as long as they haven't lied or pretended something not the truth) I know nothing about Mr Guerrero but i have great respect for him not speaking or making money off the princess (i'm sure it's been offered) he is showing dignity and class IMO.
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You are so right. My first marriage holds nothing to my life now. Besides, how do we know the reason for the divorce -- could have been his fault and Letizia protected him. For some reason, everyone points the finger at her but you have no proof and it really is no one's business except for the two of them and their new spouses. For us to know the reason will not change history.
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08-11-2008, 08:42 PM
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There are marriages and there are marriages. No children, no religious ceremony, short-lived duration--who cares? What makes a marriage important are the ties that bind, time, children, religion; none of that was present in this case.
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08-11-2008, 11:53 PM
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There are marriages and there are marriages. No children, no religious ceremony, short-lived duration--who cares? What makes a marriage important are the ties that bind, time, children, religion; none of that was present in this case.
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Excellent opinion and very well stated. Makes one wonder why no one seems to care about other Royals' prior marriages or the reason for the breakup -- especially ones producing children? Oh well, I sincerely hope that Felipe and Letizia's marriage remains strong and steady for all their lives -- actually want the same thing for all the young Royals.
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08-12-2008, 12:49 AM
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They have dealt with it in the most graceful manner possible (neither of them or anyone else speaking about it) however at least for me it leaves a bad aftertaste not for the woman Letizia Ortiz in a society where divorce happens quite often but for Dona Letizia The Princess of Asturias, a future Queen, meaning the moment when she became connected to royalty. It does harm the credibility of any monarchy when royals are no different to common people and their everyday problems or failures. In this context for me it's a huge difference between only living with Alonso for 10 years and then split rather than giving a committment by getting married, the same committment by the way that she gave Felipe only 5 years later, a fact open to interpretation for everyone. I think it would have been much better for her reputation if she had not been married before and somehow it never really fitted into her CV / lifestyle from what we have seen pre-marriage (career woman etc). She must have had a weak or lunatic moment when deciding to tie the knot with Alonso, maybe it had to do with the imminent breakdown of her parents' marriage.
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She did it, it is over and done with and they have both gone on with their lives. So what is the issue?
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08-12-2008, 02:28 AM
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What struck me at the time I first heard about the marriage was that he was her TEACHER when see was a teen and started courting her when she was his student! I think that's a bit sick, to be honest.
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What struck me at the time I first heard about the marriage was that he was her TEACHER when see was a teen and started courting her when she was his student! I think that's a bit sick, to be honest.
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From the TVE documentary, they knew each other at the high school (last year if I remember correctly). He was not her teacher, only a teacher at her school. There was no time table when they started dating (maybe only they knew it themselves), thus there was no proof that he was courting his student (Letizia).
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09-20-2008, 07:10 PM
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In relation to what HMT LOVE 23 says, I have read that the marriage with Alonso Guerrero failed because she did not want to have children yet.The importance she gave to her work was excessive to have children.
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09-20-2008, 09:09 PM
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In relation to what HMT LOVE 23 says, I have read that the marriage with Alonso Guerrero failed because she did not want to have children yet.The importance she gave to her work was excessive to have children.
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Does Alonso Guerrero have children now--as it was stated that he remarried before Letizia.
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I have read they split because they hardly see each other due to very different schedules.. but who knows?, I think that subject is buried, they have both gone on with their lives now.
Winnie as far as I know Alonso doesn't have kids at the moment, he married a woman that has one from a previous relationship.
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09-21-2008, 01:04 PM
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When did they purchase this property? There doesn't seem to be a year mentioned.
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09-21-2008, 06:05 PM
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The article mentioned that Letizia's ex Alonso bought a property (a piece of land mostly) worth 12,000 Euro, not Letizia and Alonso bought the property together.
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When did they purchase this property? There doesn't seem to be a year mentioned.
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The article was dated on March 2005 and mentioned that the written doc was from Last Sept, I guess the purchase was finalized around Sept 2004.
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So 600.000 euros for photos of Letizia during her first wedding. We´re crazy, seriously. Everybody knows she was married, these photos maybe would have been news 8 years ago, but now I doubt people is so interested in such an old thing.
For the description of the photos they seem like the photos of any normal wedding, I can´t see where is the scandal. The guests throwing rice to Leti? The groom and bride cutting the cake? Oh, I forgot, they say she´s eating in one of them, maybe that´s the big deal
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01-15-2013, 04:17 AM
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The news is of the most yellow television program "Salvame", of course a website as "prestigious" as Vanitatis had to post it.
I think they have invented the story entirely and that's all a lie. "Salvame" had been all week announcing exclusives for yesterday, the reason is that its main competitor premiered the new season of a very important tv serie wich has always had high audience ratings. So they needed desperately a topic to try to retain its audience, so they used the imagination, and talk about the Princess is always very profitable.
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01-15-2013, 04:35 AM
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Haha, yeah, I read that. Telecinco is pathethic as TV station. Each time they announce a "scandalous news", you just have to check A3 (their main competitor) programation, almost always they have a "dangerous" show (dangerous for T5) against which they have to fight for the audience.
They could be original and produce some good fictions, so they wouldn´t have to worry when A3 begins a new series
But T5 is the icon of "rubbish TV" here in Spain, and it seems to give them good results (seriously  ) so I doubt they will change their style. After all, these rubbish shows are much cheaper to produce than quality TV.
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It must be a slow week in Spain for royal news if their dragging up this old tale!
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