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King Felipe VI and Government formations
Today Spain held a general election which will mean that there will be a State opening of the Cortes,the first one of the reign of H.M.King Felipe VI.However a government has not yet been formed and all posts regarding the formation of a new Government have been moved here,please do not discuss politics and stick to the facts,off topic posts/political rants will be deleted with out warning.
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I've never seen a State Opening of Cortes in Spain. How is this done? that members of the Royal Family will attend?
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12-21-2015, 12:32 PM
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I've never seen a State Opening of Cortes in Spain. How is this done? that members of the Royal Family will attend?
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See this thread,the last one was in 2011 after the last General Election,I'd imagine it will be just King Felipe VI and Queen Letizia in attendance.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...1-a-32194.html
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12-26-2015, 02:41 PM
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Can someone who knows spanish tell us how extensive does the 'adiosfelipe' comments seem, in following and outrage..? Is it just the 'Podemos' followers tweeting, or a more general trend over the past couple of days..?
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No Podemos coalition deal with Spain PM Rajoy - BBC News
Next month King Felipe VI will seek to nominate a party leader for government, but that leader must then win a vote of confidence in parliament. If there is deadlock two months after that the king will call a fresh election.
Spain's left-wing Podemos party has refused to join any coalition led by the centre-right Popular Party (PP), which won the 20 December election but fell short of a majority.
Options:
- Grand coalition: Spain has never had a so-called grand coalition that would bring the Popular Party and the Socialists together - and the Socialists said they would not join a grand coalition
- Grand coalition pact: Ciudadanos leader Albert Rivera wants the PP and Socialists to join with his party to prevent Catalonia moving to independence
- Coalition of losers: The Socialists might link up with Podemos and Ciudadanos in a move that would echo the outcome of elections in Portugal last month
- Regional solution: The Socialists could also strike a deal with Podemos and smaller regional parties that won just a few seats each, thereby removing the need for a deal with Ciudadanos
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King Felipe has not yet events on his agenda awaiting political developments.
On Wednesday the 13th, the Courts are constituted, and the king will receive the President of the Congress and the President of the Senate.
Then the king will have a round of meetings with representatives of all political groups to nominate a candidate for president of the Government.
La agenda de Felipe VI, despejada en espera de la constitución de las Cortes. Noticias de agencia, eldia.es
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Thanks lula, what is the sentiment in Spain? The last thing I've heard is that PSOE rules out a grand coalition with Rajoy's PP who still got the most votes.
That would leave a minortiy goverment a la Portugal what could be very unstable especially with the Catalonia issue pending.
In general people voted for change but it will be difficult to ignore PP, do you think that people will rather take the risk of a minority government or want to call another election?
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Right now things are far from clear, PSOE is the key. It is very difficult to assess what is real and what political theater.
The only option for PP, is a minority government with the abstention of PSOE and Ciudadanos... but by the time PSOE does not want to give up. If they reach an agreement on certain issues of State ... would be the least bad option.
But Pedro Sanchez wants to run for President of the Government and prove he is the leader of PSOE. He has problems within his own party, because the interests of regional groups are different. Some want to negotiate with Podemos (because in their regions support them), but others believe that Podemos is the main enemy of PSOE. Also in PSOE there is a strong sector that puts the red line in maintaining the unity of Spain.
PSOE wants to sell a left pact as the Portuguese ... but the reality is different in Spain. In Portugal all political groups defend the nation, in Spain PSOE would need the support of people who want to break the nation.
He may try to extend the process to get to be nominated as a candidate for the presidency, strength his leadership and buy time for other elections. But that would leave the country without a government six months and that could also have an electoral price.
Podemos has joined in some regions (Galicia, Valencia and Cataluña), with leftist movements and independence groups ... and further supports the referendum in Cataluña. Podemos, is Podemos plus dozens of small groups and parties with different interests. They all agree on something on independence issues, it is very difficult.
Ciudadanos marks the red line in the unity of Spain, and will never support the PSOE if it yields on that topic.
Then there are small groups of right and left parties, ranging from moderate nationalists to radical independentists.
The unity of Spain is key in many negotiations ... and while the PP and Ciudadanos are clear in defending the unity and do in all regions of Spain ... PSOE and Podemos pose different things depending on the region if it makes them win more votes.
In Cataluña, the independentists have majority , but they are no able to reach a government agreement... if tomorrow they do not reach an agreement, there will be new elections. It has been four months an absolute circus.
The electoral calculations, the political clashes, personal egos ... everything influences... and some instead of wanting to reach agreements for a stable government, seem more concerned with winning the biggest possible points ahead of new elections. If finally there are new elections, probably there will be a confrontation PSOE / Podemos to see who is more guilty.
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Thanks for your insight, lula. Much appreciated!
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01-09-2016, 10:48 AM
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Clear and to the point. As you said "(In Cataluña) it has been four months of an absolute circus". Thank you Lula!
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Originally Posted by lula
Right now things are far from clear, PSOE is the key. It is very difficult to assess what is real and what political theater.
The only option for PP, is a minority government with the abstention of PSOE and Ciudadanos... but by the time PSOE does not want to give up. If they reach an agreement on certain issues of State ... would be the least bad option.
But Pedro Sanchez wants to run for President of the Government and prove he is the leader of PSOE. He has problems within his own party, because the interests of regional groups are different. Some want to negotiate with Podemos (because in their regions support them), but others believe that Podemos is the main enemy of PSOE. Also in PSOE there is a strong sector that puts the red line in maintaining the unity of Spain.
PSOE wants to sell a left pact as the Portuguese ... but the reality is different in Spain. In Portugal all political groups defend the nation, in Spain PSOE would need the support of people who want to break the nation.
He may try to extend the process to get to be nominated as a candidate for the presidency, strength his leadership and buy time for other elections. But that would leave the country without a government six months and that could also have an electoral price.
Podemos has joined in some regions (Galicia, Valencia and Cataluña), with leftist movements and independence groups ... and further supports the referendum in Cataluña. Podemos, is Podemos plus dozens of small groups and parties with different interests. They all agree on something on independence issues, it is very difficult.
Ciudadanos marks the red line in the unity of Spain, and will never support the PSOE if it yields on that topic.
Then there are small groups of right and left parties, ranging from moderate nationalists to radical independentists.
The unity of Spain is key in many negotiations ... and while the PP and Ciudadanos are clear in defending the unity and do in all regions of Spain ... PSOE and Podemos pose different things depending on the region if it makes them win more votes.
In Cataluña, the independentists have majority , but they are no able to reach a government agreement... if tomorrow they do not reach an agreement, there will be new elections. It has been four months an absolute circus.
The electoral calculations, the political clashes, personal egos ... everything influences... and some instead of wanting to reach agreements for a stable government, seem more concerned with winning the biggest possible points ahead of new elections. If finally there are new elections, probably there will be a confrontation PSOE / Podemos to see who is more guilty.
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Originally Posted by lula
In Cataluña, the independentists have majority , but they are no able to reach a government agreement... if tomorrow they do not reach an agreement, there will be new elections. It has been four months an absolute circus.
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They just agreed. Mas is stepping aside, now Felipe will have to deal with Carles Puigdemont.
http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/ne...er-6747666.php
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01-09-2016, 03:30 PM
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And this new situation also changes the situation in Spain.
While there were hopes for new elections in Cataluña, Pedro Sánchez could try to experiment, ... but not now. With a strong independist government challenging Spain ... PP, Ciudadanos and probably a sector of the PSOE, will require Pedro Sanchez to behave as a statesman. The state can not wait months for new elections, Spain needs a serious government now.
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 The state of the press...King Felipe has not received any parliamentary president of any Autonomous Community. The Catalonian separatists are milking it as if it were a slight to them when he hasn't received anyone.
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