King Felipe VI and Government formations

[lula]

Mr. Mariano Rajoy Brey, of Partido Popular (PP)

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Meeting with President of the Congress of Deputies

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[An Ard Ri]

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This looks like Ana Pastors second visit to the Zarzuela to meet the King this week.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Rojoy got the mandate but he already warns that he could fail in forming a government.
Spain's Rajoy accepts mandate to form government, warns he may fail - SWI swissinfo.ch

The ponytail continues to go to Zarzuela dressed badly.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Spain’s Political Parties Fail to Agree on Coalition Government

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/w...il-to-agree-on-coalition-government.html?_r=0

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

General election fallout: Acting PM on course to accept six requirements of Ciudadanos party | In English | EL PAÍS

Rajoy is playing the waiting game, could be that Felipe is stuck in Madrid all August withouth being able to go on holiday.

 

[hana]

why he can't go on holiday

 

[ANNIE_S]

why he can't go on holiday

Technically, there is no need for him to stay in Madrid since he has no part in the formation of a government once a candidate is officially designated (Rajoy) and until, after he's voted at the Congress, he need to swear the charge in front of the King (Felipe could go away and return back for the swearing).

But for PR reasons it makes all the sense. It wouldn't look good if the King would go away on holidays while the situation is so unclear. Simple as that.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Centrists side with Spain's Rajoy but political impasse holds | Reuters

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Rajoy's first attempt has failed, second one on Friday.
If he does not secure the necessary support at the investiture vote this week, there will be two months to either form a government or hold new elections

Spanish elections: What happens if Mariano Rajoy does not get reinstated? | In English | EL PAÍS

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Spain: Rajoy fails again in bid to form new government - News from Al Jazeera

now the parties have two more months to figure out a solution before the third election will be called around Christmas Day.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Government Formation Audiences today at the Zarzuela Palace

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[Mbruno]

Government Formation Audiences today at the Zarzuela Palace

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Should King Felipe VI follow the example of Albert II in Belgium and take a more proactive role now to try to avoid a third election ? Or is the position of the monarchy in Spain too fragile for the King to serve as an effective mediator between the different political parties ?

The PP/Ciudadanos/Coalición Canaria group is only six votes short of an overall majority. It doesn't seem reasonable that a new election should be held. Quite frankly, the leftist and nationalist parties are just playing (bad) politics.

 

[AdmirerUS]

the AP news item on this: https://www.yahoo.com/news/spains-king-coaxes-politicians-end-9-month-govt-133519601.html?ref=gs

To sum up how the AP is reporting his position: Compromise and move forward.

I'd ask Forum members from Europe how this is being interpreted regionally?

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Spain's king coaxes politicians to end 9-month gov't limbo | Daily Mail Online

Felipe said he will not call the political leaders for consultation, but to give them time to discuss (as he already did after Sanchez' failed investiture). He also asked for dialogue and compromise.

Without an agreement between the political leaders until October 31st, Felipe is going to call new election on Christmas day.

Felipe will strictly follow his role according to the constitution what is a mediator but not to take active role in forming a government.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

There is a chance now of Spain getting a new government soon:
Socialist Putsch in Spain Clears Rajoy’s Path Back to Power - Bloomberg

 

[An Ard Ri]

Hopefully there will be some good news,not sure if a 3rd election will change anything.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Spain's King, politicians to meet October 24, 25 to discuss confidence vote | Reuters

 

[lula]

The president of the Congress of Deputies presents the list of representatives appointed by the political groups represented in parliament to hold a new round of consultations with King Felipe

Casa de Su Majestad el Rey de España - Actividades y Agenda - Audiencia a Doña Ana María Pastor Julián, Presidenta del Congreso de los Diputados

 

[An Ard Ri]

The president of the Congress of Deputies presents the list of representatives appointed by the political groups represented in parliament to hold a new round of consultations with King Felipe

Casa de Su Majestad el Rey de España - Actividades y Agenda - Audiencia a Doña Ana María Pastor Julián, Presidenta del Congreso de los Diputados

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[ANNIE_S]

Socialist Party (PSOE) has just voted to abstain on Rajoy investidure so he can govern in minority.

This most likely means the King will appoint Rajoy as candidate after his round of consultations this week and he will be probably elected in one-two weeks, just at the end of the term that forces to call for new elections.

Spain's Socialists vote to allow Rajoy minority government - BBC News

The bright side is we won't have to vote (third time in a year) on Christmas Day (!!!!!), and obviously that there will be a government at last. The worst part is everything else, IMO of course

 

[Duc_et_Pair]

That was the wisest thing to do for PSOE (Labour). Polls showed that new elections would only benefit PP (Conservatives) again and hold the risk that Podemos will bypass the PSOE as the largest party on the left.

 

[ANNIE_S]

Yes, indeed. But the outcome is not a good one for them either. I'm afraid they have just given the leadership of the left to Ps. They are going through the same road that PASOK in Greece. It was a lose-lose situation for them if there ever was one.

The only thing they have won is a four-year term to rebuild themselves and recover their voters, because new elections in December would have been a complete debacle for them. Much better to stay with the number of seats they already have.

 

[An Ard Ri]

Well that's some good news and hopefully Spain will have a new government soon and not another election.

 

[Duke of Marmalade]

Yes, indeed. But the outcome is not a good one for them either. I'm afraid they have just given the leadership of the left to Ps. They are going through the same road that PASOK in Greece. It was a lose-lose situation for them if there ever was one.

The only thing they have won is a four-year term to rebuild themselves and recover their voters, because new elections in December would have been a complete debacle for them. Much better to stay with the number of seats they already have.

Same in Germany with the SPD. They have been in decline for years, I am sure it will be the same for PSOE, their members/voters will leave and other parties will benefit. This is the end of the 2 party system as Spain has known it.

 

[lula]

Audience to Mr. Pedro Quevedo Iturbe, Nueva Canarias (NCA)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Isidro Manuel Martinez Oblanca, Foro Asturias (FORO)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mrs. Ana Maria Oramas González-Moro, Coalición Canaria-Partido Nacionalista Canario (NCC-PNC)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Javier Esparza Abaurrea, of Union del Pueblo Navarro (UPN)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mrs. Rosa Martínez Rodríguez, EQUO
Zarzuela Palace

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[An Ard Ri]

Audiences this morning


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[lula]

Audience to Alberto Garzón Espinosa, of Unidad Popular: Izquierda Unida, Unidad Popular en Común (UI-UPeC)
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Audience to Mr. Aitor Esteban Bravo, Euzko Alderdi Jeltzalea-Partido Nacionalista Vasco (EAJ-PNV)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mrs. Alexandra Fernández Gómez, of En Marea (Podemos-En Marea-Anova-EU)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Francesc Homs i Molist, of Democràcia i Llibertat. Convergència. Demòcrates. Reagrupament (DL)
Zarzuela Palace

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[lula]

Audience to Mr. Joan Baldoví Roda, of Compromís-Podemos-És el moment (Podemos-Compromís)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Francesc Xavier Domènech Sampere of Comú-Podem (En Comú)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Albert Rivera Díez, of Ciudadanos-Partido de la Ciudadanía (C's)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Pablo Iglesias Turrión, of Podemos (PODEMOS)
Zarzuela Palace

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Audience to Mr. Javier Fernández, of Partido Socialista Obrero Español (PSOE)
Zarzuela Palace

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[lula]

Audience to Mr. Mariano Rajoy Brey, of Partido Popular (PP)
Zarzuela Palace

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Meeting with President of the Congress of Deputies

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[Duc_et_Pair]

Is Iglesias trying to prove something? Appearing in jeans and with a sweater?