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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/wo...pain.html?_r=0
2nd vote on friday, then 2 more months of time for Felipe to nominate again, if not successful New Elections in june.
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There are very high chances that Sanchez fails again on Friday... and then King Felipe will have a big problem, because no law says exactly how he should act in this case.
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03-03-2016, 09:29 AM
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I met Spanish friends today, they agree ... saying its a mess, they do not like any of the candidates and expect new elections that might end in deadlock again.
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03-05-2016, 04:15 AM
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As expected, the second vote failed too, not even close to a solution:
New talks between political parties will now start and Spain's King Felipe may ask a new candidate to try and form a majority before May 2, when new elections would have to be called.
Spain's Socialist leader fails to become prime minister, new talks to start | Reuters
we'll see how Felipe can now play a moderator role in this mess.
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03-05-2016, 07:58 AM
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Thank you for keeping this thread updated. It really seems a hot mess.
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03-07-2016, 05:32 AM
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The political situation is becoming the King agenda into chaos. On the one hand, the political neutrality required forces him to choose the events they can attend, to not disturb any political group. On the other the need to be available to suit the political calendar makes it impossible to organize the agenda in advance and forced to cancel trips.
The official visit to Saudi Arabia in February and the State Visit to the UK in March have been canceled.
If finally the day is free, King Felipe could attend on Wednesday, March 9 the inauguration of the new President of Portugal, if not King Juan Carlos will attend.
King Felipe and Queen Letizia planned to travel next week to Puerto Rico for the Congress of the Spanish Language. They should also travel in April to Japan and Korea, and Queen Letizia should make her annual cooperation trip. All these trips are unconfirmed, and may be canceled.
King reduced his schedule to 60% from 20-D by instability
El Rey reduce su agenda un 60% desde el 20-D por la inestabilidad
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03-07-2016, 03:01 PM
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Must members of the Royal Family always be accompanied by politicians? I know they are not there for audiences at the Palace but I've noticed that a Minister of some department is usually at outside events. Is this a requirement by law?
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03-07-2016, 03:56 PM
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Yes, usually they are accompanied in many of their events by Ministers or Secretaries of State. Also they are usually accompanied by representatives of autonomous regions or mayors.
In pre or post election period the audiences, the military events for the King and for Queen meetings with her charities fill the agenda because the presence of politicians is not necessary.
The problem is that this time the government formation process is taking months, and the situation between the political parties is very difficult.
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03-07-2016, 07:05 PM
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Lula, Thank you so much for your response. I appreciate the information you are providing to those of us outside of Spain.
You stated that the King & Queen are usually accompanied by Ministers and Secretaries of State as well as representatives of Autonomous communities, but must they be accompanied. Is it mandatory? If it is a visit to a museum or presentation of a prize, can't Their Majesties be greeted by the director of the museum or chairman of the board of a foundation issuing the prize? Does a minister accompany Queen Sofia when she represents her foundation on a cooperation trip?
I know this situation is unique because of the delay in forming a government. It has affected the agenda of the Royal House. With the exception of Official and State Visits, is it mandatory to have politicians accompany the Royal family on engagements outside of the palace? Or is it just custom? Can Their Majesties make changes so their agendas are not disturbed during the election process?
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03-08-2016, 04:19 AM
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Cooperation trips of the Queen, before with Sofia and now with Letizia, are organized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs through the Spanish Agency for International Cooperation.
Spain is a parliamentary monarchy and the King's acts must be countersigned by the government, hence the habit of being accompanied by a member of the government in their events.
By custom and protocol it is also normal that regional and local authorities on where the event is held join to them. Often regional and local governments are also related to the event, because they manage a school or a museum, support a conference, finance some works, are part of a board of trustees...
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03-08-2016, 06:45 AM
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Lula, Thank you for taking the time to explain. I understand now. I hope the political situation is resolved soon. Thank you again.
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Bickering between Spain's far-left Podemos party and the Socialists escalated Friday over the formation of a new government, leading experts to predict the country is headed to another national election.
Spain: Govn't talks take hit as negotiating parties bicker | Daily Mail Online
It seems that the political limbo goes on and on and on. As lula said in another thread, the political crisis has reduced the Kings' schedule to insignificance, it's a shame.
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04-09-2016, 06:37 AM
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I had hoped all this hot mess would be over by now, but it seems the government talks are not going anywhere...
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Lets hope there's some sort of breakthrough in the talks!
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Lets hope there's some sort of breakthrough in the talks!
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Yes, it would be great for that to happen!
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