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Old 11-02-2003, 02:48 PM
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I see a new royal star on the rise. She is gorgeous the only person in my opinion that holds a candle to her beauty is Queen Rania.
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Old 11-02-2003, 02:53 PM
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Well, it's official...all the crown princes are taken!  :(
Don't get hopeless! There is Crown Prince Albert of Monaco left! We singles have just a little bit of hope left to became self one day the next "Queen" of Monaco!
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Old 11-02-2003, 02:56 PM
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chuggypot  Posted: Nov 2nd, 2003 - 2:29 pm

only the marriage vows that take place in the eyes of God. Therefore to the Catholic church, Leticia has not been married.
Good point.

which to me explains the speedy consent of the church to this upcoming union.

But I have a question here ...... did Felipe have to "put his foot" down to get his way, like Haakon and Willem-Alexander did (to get permission to marry their ladies) ?
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Old 11-02-2003, 03:04 PM
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I was curious to know if Leticia is already a practising roman catholic..or will she have to convert to catholicism? Does anybody know?
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Old 11-02-2003, 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Lena@Nov 2nd, 2003 - 4:16 am
Hehe, EVERYBODY seems to be shocked and surprised the one or another way...we should collect money for such crisis (maybe tomorrow prince Albert will announce that he will marry Liz Taylor ), and buy Valium and send it to very shocked LTR-members.
I think we should wait and see how cp Felipe, Letizia and the Royal couple will explain the sudden engagment. Then we will know more and can judge her better.
That would be the Hit of the year! Albert and Liz Taylor!
Valium would be needed lots and lots of many of us LTR-reader.
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Old 11-02-2003, 03:51 PM
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I think she looks a little bit like Queen Rania.
i just think she looks like isabel sartorias.
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Old 11-02-2003, 04:56 PM
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Kronprinz Felipe vergeben

Die Auserwählte ist Journalistin. Einer der begehrtesten Junggesellen Europas ist vom Markt. Das spanische Königshaus gab nun die Verlobung von Kronprinz Felipe mit der Journalistin Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano bekannt. Die Hochzeitsglocken sollen im Frühsommer nächsten Jahres in Madrid klingeln.

Die zukünftige Frau Felipes ist in Spanien keine Unbekannte. Sie moderiert seit mehreren Monaten im staatlichen Fernsehen die Hauptnachrichtensendung im Nachmittagsprogramm. Die dunkelblonde Schönheit mit den Modelmaßen wird, wenn Felipe eines Tages den Thron besteigt, die erste Königin in Spanien aus nichtadligem Hause sein. Sie stammt aus Oviedo in Nordspanien und gilt als eine typische Vertreterin der modernen Mittelschicht.

Zuvor hatte die Beziehung Felipes mit dem norwegischen Fotomodell Eva Sannum für viel Unruhe gesorgt. Da sie Werbefotos für Dessous gemacht hatte, konnten sich die meisten Spanier nicht mit ihr als zukünftige Prinzessin anfreunden. Der Prinz bestritt aber stets, sich wegen des öffentlichen Drucks von der Norwegerin getrennt zu haben.
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Old 11-02-2003, 05:57 PM
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What will Letizia's title be? Crown Princess? I thought that was just for women will become the ruler.
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:01 PM
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This engagement is a nice present from Felipe to his mother who turned 65 this weekend.
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:07 PM
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What will Letizia's title be? Crown Princess? I thought that was just for women will become the ruler.
Nop, for example, Maxima and Mette-Marit are also Crown Princesses and they will not be rulers

Her title will be HRH Princess Letizia of Asturias, Crown Princess of Spain :flower: . And most likely, Princess of Girona and Viana, Duchess of Montblanc, Countess of Cervera and Lady of Balaguer. All titles that Felipe has :P
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:08 PM
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Hi!

Just wondering about this lady. Is she very well known in Spain? Does she read the news?
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:13 PM
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Yup, she's is very known in Spain, one of the most popular tv reporters of the country.

And GAVE the news until friday :P She was the co-host of the evenning news of TVE (spanish national television) :flower:
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:29 PM
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At least one thing is clear: This will be a fantastic, glamorous wedding with a lot of guests, we love I mean, just remeber the weddings of Elena and Christina (the are just "normal" princesses, but no crown princesses) and compare it with the weddings of prince Laurent or princess Märtha-Louise!
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:39 PM
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Then what is the difference between Crown Princess and Princess? Crown Princess is in the royal family by birth?
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:44 PM
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Then what is the difference between Crown Princess and Princess?
Crown Princess accedes to the title of Queen, and Princess stays Princess.
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Old 11-02-2003, 06:52 PM
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Here's a question: Queen Elizabeth had a rather interesting sequence of events to become Queen. Does that mean that she was a Princess until the abdication and then became a Crown Princess for 17 years? No, she was always a Crown Princess. Even if the King and Queen had 20 daughters all of them will be Crown Princesses. Okay.
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Dennism  Posted: Nov 2nd, 2003 - 6:52 pm

Even if the King and Queen had 20 daughters all of them will be Crown Princesses. Okay.
The oldest would be Crown Princess, imo ... and all the others Princess. Mind you, all Princesses would be entitled to call themselves "Princess of England".
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Old 11-02-2003, 07:13 PM
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Well, that's what I was wondering about. So why is it Princess Anne then? Did she give up her right to the throne then?
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Old 11-02-2003, 07:17 PM
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Anne wasn't ever Crown Princess. Charles is the oldest.
Also, I may be wrong,but Felipe isn't styled as Crown Prince. He's the Prince of Asturias. This is the title for the heir to the throne in Spain.
Any other males (and females) bear the title Infante/Infanta
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Old 11-02-2003, 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Dennism@Nov 2nd, 2003 - 6:52 pm
Here's a question: Queen Elizabeth had a rather interesting sequence of events to become Queen. Does that mean that she was a Princess until the abdication and then became a Crown Princess for 17 years? No, she was always a Crown Princess. Even if the King and Queen had 20 daughters all of them will be Crown Princesses. Okay.
Elizabeth was never Crown Princess. No such title exists in Britain.

Before her father's succession she was Princess Elizabeth (of York). After her father's accession she was still Princess Elizabeth (of Great Britain & N. I). From then on she was the "heiress presumative". Meaning, that it was *presumed* that she woud be the successor to the throne, as the King and Queen may have still had a son (although this was unlikely). If Princess Elizabeth had been a boy, she would have been the "heir apparent", because it waould have been *apparent* that he would be King.

Usually male heir apparents are accorded the style of Prince of Wales, but this doesn't have to be the case. It's up to the monarch when and if this happens.
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