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01-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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Just a simple question to the spanish posters:
In that Jaime peñafiel article he uses the word "gamberro" to describe the children of the infantas, what exactly does it mean?, isn´t it a harsh qualifier to use on children?
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01-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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01-15-2006, 11:09 AM
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01-15-2006, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Toledo
Thanks for the link, fanletizia :)
 That nasty Penafiel never ceases an opportunity to attack Leti, and this time he went even further and attacked King Juan Carlos' grand kids calling them 'mal educados' (means ill manered) on the third paragraph. He even had the nerve to say the kids, Leonor's first cousins, should have been left all at home! How dare he! Then he attacks Leti's humble family by saying it took Leonor to place both families at the same level. Then he insults his fellow reporters by calling them courtesan reporters just for promoting the idea of Leonor as a future Queen (fourth paragraph)
If our Royal Forums friends knew the venom behind his lines they would be fumming too at that tabloid pseudo writer.
But this is an ocassion for joy, and his poison darts against Leti and her family won't find the target this time.
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What is his problem? I don't read Spanish, but from the brief synopsis...it sounds like he hates her. What is the perception of the Spanish? do they pay attention to him or do they just chalk it up as jibberish?
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01-15-2006, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sadie
Just a simple question to the spanish posters:
In that Jaime peñafiel article he uses the word "gamberro" to describe the children of the infantas, what exactly does it mean?, isn´t it a harsh qualifier to use on children?
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Yes, it is. A child of this age can be anxious (inquieto),naughty (travieso)...but not "gamberro", because they are young to be conscientious of their pranks
The definition of "gamberro" of the Royal Academy of the Language:
"That commits acts of rudeness or incivility"
Peñafiel is in the habit of using this type of hard and sometimes cruel words with the persons when he does not taste or does the things how he likes it.
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01-15-2006, 11:40 AM
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Thanks Lula for clarifiying that :) .
Reading Peñafiel´s articles it seems to me he is the gamberro  , he confuses being courtesan with just being polite; but is better to focus on nice positive side of this event and ignore this individual
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01-15-2006, 11:45 AM
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several photos from this post but without watermark from DPA
..and one of Letizia with her fan
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01-15-2006, 12:11 PM
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someone has the article of the spanish journal EL PAIS, that the title is "Habrá sopresa, pero no ahora"?
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See page nr. 8:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-a-7826-8.html
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01-15-2006, 12:16 PM
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PeÑafiel
Hello
PeÑafiel Is A Good Reporter. He Worked For Hola! Magazine Ome Years Ago To Do Articles About Royal Family. I Think That Letizia Changes Our Royal Family. She Can Control All.
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01-15-2006, 12:18 PM
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01-15-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by olili
Hello
PeÑafiel Is A Good Reporter. He Worked For Hola! Magazine Ome Years Ago To Do Articles About Royal Family. I Think That Letizia Changes Our Royal Family. She Can Control All.
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Olili who punishes that you think it.:(
Peñafiel was a good journalist 30 years ago when he was working with Hola and had good influences. Later he founded his magazine and almost he finishes in the jail for the topic of the photographies of the agony of Franco.
Now only he is a gossip-monger, antiquated, that he invents barbarities and that has not even idea of many things. The sad thing is that though there am demonstrated that what he says is a lie there are people who him continues believing.
Letizia neither has changed anything, nor has any power, if her life had it it would be different, she would make many things alone.
What happens is that Letizia is not respected how other members of the Royal Family are respected, which happens is that before the mass media scarcely were dealing with the personal life of the royal family and now they harass the Princes.
I would like that you were saying to me into that Letizia has changed the Royal Family, because that I know they have not changed into anything. If you give me something that demonstrates it I will understand it, but I will think that you believe yourself everything what these pseudo journalists say in television without thinking over it.
It is very easy to attack Letizia, because with a view to the public opinion she is the weakest member. Many people avenge in Letizia not that do not dare to avenge in other members of the Royal Family.
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01-15-2006, 01:01 PM
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Thanks to all, for all lovely pics ... i love all of them, thanks so much to all.
I simply love all ....!!
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01-15-2006, 01:04 PM
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When They Ent To "la Moraleja" Centre, They Only Called To "el Pais" Newspaper To Do The Photos.
Moreover, She Was A Good Jornalist But She Didn´t Speak English. A Lot Of Spanish People (i Too) Don´t Like Letizia And Her Manners.
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01-15-2006, 01:09 PM
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this is a beautiful thread filled with many many gorgeous pictures.
is it possible not to make it a pro or anti letizia again? please...
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01-15-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by olili
When They Ent To "la Moraleja" Centre, They Only Called To "el Pais" Newspaper To Do The Photos.
Moreover, She Was A Good Jornalist But She Didn´t Speak English. A Lot Of Spanish People (i Too) Don´t Like Letizia And Her Manners.
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They did not call ElPaís, to the newspaper they warned them from the mall, and a serious photographer dedicated to other topics who lives to the side went to do the photographies to them. Paloma García Pelayo recognized this the own in Ana Rosa's program, though then them of korpa, they changed the version and created the polemic because they had not been they who had realized the photos, and they had lost a lot of money.
They if they called later to the agency EFE, the state agency of news that we pay all the citizens, to break the sole right and that the whole world had access to the photographies, but did not come in time and they photographed only the exit.
This one is the real version, the manipulated one for an agency of paparazzis that gain millions with the Princes.
As for Letizia's ways, only you can refer what happened the day of the commitment ... and that certain journalists have exploited up to the weariness ... because that I know since then almost she has not opened the mouth.
On the topic of the English I believe that these badly informed. She was speaking English (I remember my that was covering information in New York), but not an English to the same level that the rest of members of the Royal Family who are bilingual from children. Because of it she received classes ... and if you are interested in yesterday in the baptism she spoke in perfect English with a German journalist.
If you want that it informs you about something more, I will be enchanted of doing it. It makes me sad that the people should believe herself what say some journalists who only invent things to earn money and to be kept in television ... but the things are like that.
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01-15-2006, 01:33 PM
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This thread is to share information and opinions about the baptism of Infanta Leonor de Borbón, not for arguments about the princess being fluent in English and even less about Jaime Peñafiel's dislike for the Princess of Asturias.
Now please get back on topic or the moderation team will end up having to delete a whole lot of off-topic posts.
Elsa M.
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01-15-2006, 01:41 PM
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I waited for your message Elsa.  I feel it, is product of my persistence in clarifying it everything and giving to explanations precise and coherent. You could change them to the forum of Letizia and to erase this message.
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01-15-2006, 02:02 PM
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La jornada empezó minutos antes del acto religioso con la sesión fotográfica en la que la Familia Real al completo posó con la familia materna de la pequeña. La niña, que a pesar de los cuidados se había hecho un pequeño arañazo en la nariz, aparecía, por primera vez ante las cámaras
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The day began minutes before the religious act with the photographic session in which the Royal Family to the complete one posed with the mother family of the small one. The girl, who in spite of the elegant ones had done a small scratch to herself in the nose, was appearing, for the first time before the chambers(cameras).
http://www.abc.es/abc/pg060115/prens...AC-NAC-016.asp
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01-15-2006, 02:06 PM
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Hi, I'm new in this forum! My name is AnnaMaria, I'm 14 and I'm from Italy!
Yesterday on tv I watched the video from Infanta Leonor's baptism and I was very happy!!
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