 |
|

05-15-2009, 02:56 PM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Morocco, Netherlands
Posts: 623
|
|
Prince Hussein named Crown Prince of Jordan: July 2, 2009
Prince Hussein ben Abdullah will be in June officially a crown prince
Crown Prince Hussein bin Al Abdullah (born June 28, 1994 )is the eldest child of King Abdullah II and Queen Rania of Jordan. Prince Hussein is part of the Hashemite family and is reportedly the 44th-generation direct descendant of prophet Mohammad. Though King Abdullah II has not named his successor to the throne, it is widely believed that his son would be a probable choice for this position. If he ascends to the throne one day, he will be known as King Hussein II. He is currently enrolled at King’s Academy.
http://www.alwatanvoice.com/arabic/content-137861.html
__________________
__________________
It was too good to be true...
|

05-15-2009, 04:05 PM
|
 |
Nobility
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 295
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joumana
Prince Hussein ben Abdullah will be in June officially a crown prince
Crown Prince Hussein bin Al Abdullah (born June 28, 1994 )is the eldest child of King Abdullah II and Queen Rania of Jordan. Prince Hussein is part of the Hashemite family and is reportedly the 44th-generation direct descendant of prophet Mohammad. Though King Abdullah II has not named his successor to the throne, it is widely believed that his son would be a probable choice for this position. If he ascends to the throne one day, he will be known as King Hussein II. He is currently enrolled at Kings Academy.
الأمير ال*سين الثاني وليًا للعهد في الاردن في *زيران القادم - دنيا الوطن
|
Some say on Independence day , May 25th!
__________________
|

05-15-2009, 06:38 PM
|
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: City, Kazakhstan
Posts: 8,013
|
|
Fairly speaking, I am not surprised to learn that Prince Hussein will become a Crown Prince. The precedent was set by the late King Hussein, who, shall we say, appointed his eldest to ascend the throne.
|

05-15-2009, 06:46 PM
|
 |
Moderator Emeritus
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: , Canada
Posts: 7,805
|
|
There hasn't been any official announcement about this from the Royal Court so far.
Is the above source reliable?
|

05-16-2009, 12:03 AM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: *, United States
Posts: 634
|
|
this is not completly surprising but still is in a way  lol. hes always seems so disinterest for it i think.
i just read an ariticle for prince hamzah idont know how credible it is, mabe it reads a bit bias, but it says he was king husseins first choice for cp and that after queen noors talk on american tv (they say it was ignored in jordan media) about the january fighting in gaza that hes become more popular again in the jordan.  its a traslation so i dont know how the original is. i wonder how people there feel about it.
|

05-16-2009, 05:48 AM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: at different places, Germany
Posts: 677
|
|
Since November 2004 PHussein has been the legal crown prince (as foreseen by the Jordanian constitution). Nevertheless I thought that the King would wait till the boy would be at least 18 before formalizing it (to allow him an unburdened adolescence).
|

05-16-2009, 07:02 PM
|
 |
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: marrakech, Morocco
Posts: 3,061
|
|
well no Prince Hussein has never been Crown Prince,the jordanian constitution is clear here:king can choose one of his brothers or sons to be CP but is he don't the position remained emply,and this what happen when king isolate his brother Hamza(the CP posotion become empty)and still unless king name someone.
|

05-16-2009, 08:29 PM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: at different places, Germany
Posts: 677
|
|
No, shrifia, when the King would have died in the last years (after November 2004), Prince Hussein would be king now as his legal heir (with a regent or regency council on his side acting for him till his 18th birthday). He would have been automatically his father's successor.
The Jordanian Constitution:
Chapter 4: The Executive Power
PART I: THE KING AND HlS PREROGATIVES
Article 28
The Throne of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is hereditary to the dynasty of King Abdullah Ibn Al-Hussein in a direct line through his male heirs as provided hereinafter:
(a) The Royal title shall pass from the holder of the Throne to his eldest son, and to the eldest son of that son and in linear succession by a similar process thereafter. Should the eldest son die before the Throne devolves upon him, his eldest son shall inherit the Throne despite the existence of brothers to the deceased son.
The King may, as amended in the Official Gazette No. 1831 of 01/04/1965, however, select one of his brothers as heir apparent. In this event, title to the Throne shall pass to him from the holder of the Throne.
And as you can see here the king can only name one of his brothers instead of his eldest son not a younger son.
To all those partisans of Prince Hamzah as crown prince I have a question: If King Hussein really wanted his fourth son to be the next king why he didn't amend the constitution again like 1965 to change this restriction?
Concerning the succession the "normal case" in Jordan foreseen in the constitution is that of the eldest son. Exceptionally the king can name instead a brother as crown prince (in 1965 King Hussein did it in a time of crisis to secure the future of the monarchy in Jordan; the situation today is completely different, there is no reason for the actual king to name a brother instead of the "normal" heir to the throne).
|

05-16-2009, 09:13 PM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: at different places, Germany
Posts: 677
|
|
Arabic News got it right in 2004:
Prince Hussein is a crown prince in Jordan
Jordan, Politics, 11/30/2004
Prince Hussein is a crown prince in Jordan
|

05-17-2009, 12:42 AM
|
 |
Nobility
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Natal, Brazil
Posts: 456
|
|
I am so glad it finally happened!
|

05-17-2009, 07:50 AM
|
 |
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: , United States
Posts: 8,260
|
|
it's a shame that hamzah and noor couldn't be crown prince and crown princess until hussein is old enough at least, just like king hussein wanted. i thought they would be an excellent reigning couple.
__________________
The Humane Society of the United States is the nations largest and most effective animal protection organization.
https://www.humanesociety.org
|

05-17-2009, 03:32 PM
|
 |
Nobility
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: -, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Posts: 468
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veram98
The Jordanian Constitution:
Chapter 4: The Executive Power
PART I: THE KING AND HlS PREROGATIVES
Article 28
The Throne of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is hereditary to the dynasty of King Abdullah Ibn Al-Hussein in a direct line through his male heirs as provided hereinafter:
(a) The Royal title shall pass from the holder of the Throne to his eldest son, and to the eldest son of that son and in linear succession by a similar process thereafter. Should the eldest son die before the Throne devolves upon him, his eldest son shall inherit the Throne despite the existence of brothers to the deceased son.
The King may, as amended in the Official Gazette No. 1831 of 01/04/1965, however, select one of his brothers as heir apparent. In this event, title to the Throne shall pass to him from the holder of the Throne.
|
So, agnatic primogeniture is normally applied, unless the King appoints his brother as heir. Now I get it
|

05-17-2009, 04:39 PM
|
 |
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: marrakech, Morocco
Posts: 3,061
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veram98
No, shrifia, when the King would have died in the last years (after November 2004), Prince Hussein would be king now as his legal heir (with a regent or regency council on his side acting for him till his 18th birthday). He would have been automatically his father's successor.
The Jordanian Constitution:
Chapter 4: The Executive Power
PART I: THE KING AND HlS PREROGATIVES
Article 28
The Throne of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is hereditary to the dynasty of King Abdullah Ibn Al-Hussein in a direct line through his male heirs as provided hereinafter:
(a) The Royal title shall pass from the holder of the Throne to his eldest son, and to the eldest son of that son and in linear succession by a similar process thereafter. Should the eldest son die before the Throne devolves upon him, his eldest son shall inherit the Throne despite the existence of brothers to the deceased son.
The King may, as amended in the Official Gazette No. 1831 of 01/04/1965, however, select one of his brothers as heir apparent. In this event, title to the Throne shall pass to him from the holder of the Throne.
And as you can see here the king can only name one of his brothers instead of his eldest son not a younger son.
To all those partisans of Prince Hamzah as crown prince I have a question: If King Hussein really wanted his fourth son to be the next king why he didn't amend the constitution again like 1965 to change this restriction?
Concerning the succession the "normal case" in Jordan foreseen in the constitution is that of the eldest son. Exceptionally the king can name instead a brother as crown prince (in 1965 King Hussein did it in a time of crisis to secure the future of the monarchy in Jordan; the situation today is completely different, there is no reason for the actual king to name a brother instead of the "normal" heir to the throne).
|
I read some articles about the subject this is why I was a little confused so thanks for make it clear Veram 
I guess it's a bit like the situation in Morocco as the constitution name king's son a CP since his birth in unformal way,and one of king male relatives(necessary his brother)play the role of CP until the king's son is 18.
|

05-18-2009, 02:37 PM
|
 |
Nobility
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Natal, Brazil
Posts: 456
|
|
Long live the future king Hussein The Second
|

07-02-2009, 01:15 PM
|
 |
Heir Presumptive
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: BW, Germany
Posts: 2,031
|
|
|

07-02-2009, 01:18 PM
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: ---, Portugal
Posts: 10,694
|
|
Thanks Asturiana finally its official.
|

07-02-2009, 01:21 PM
|
 |
Heir Presumptive
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: BW, Germany
Posts: 2,031
|
|
Will there be a celebration or something?
|

07-02-2009, 02:08 PM
|
 |
Moderator Emeritus
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: , Canada
Posts: 7,805
|
|
Im glad it is finally official.
Congratulations and the best of luck to Prince Hussein.
|

07-02-2009, 02:29 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: T/H, Morocco
Posts: 9,390
|
|
i am looking forward to see PHussein doing his duties 
would be nice to see him very often.
|

07-02-2009, 03:52 PM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: at different places, Germany
Posts: 677
|
|
Finally it happened - as expected.
Good luck, Prince Hussein.
__________________
|
 |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|