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Lady Bluffton 06-10-2006 11:42 PM

Royal Cousins
 
Can we get a thread going about how closely related the current reigning royals are?

Example -- isn't Queen Margrethe the 1st cousin of King Carl Gustav??? (Wasn't Queen Ingrid the sister of Carl Gustav's dad???)

m 12 06-11-2006 12:27 AM

Queen Sofia of Spain is sister of King Kostantite of Greece. So, the prince felipe and the infantas are cousins to price pablos, alexia, nicholas, theodora and phillipos.

Also, because Anne- Marie is from greece price pablos, alexia, nicholas, theodora and phillipos are cousins to prince frederick and joachim of denmark.

norwegianne 06-11-2006 03:32 AM

Note: I'm talking monarchs here... ;) And I'm using Harald V of Norway as my starting point for this post.

Harald of Norway and Albert of Belgium are first cousins - their mothers (Crown Princess Märtha and Queen Astrid were sisters).

Harald and Margrethe are second cousins - their grandfathers Haakon VII and Christian X were brothers. In addition, they're also second cousins another way, as Harald's grandmother, Princess Ingeborg of Sweden, was a sister to Haakon and Christian. This also means that Albert of Belgium also is a second cousin to the Danish monarch, as he and Harald share Ingeborg as a mutual grandmother.

Harald and Elizabeth II are also second cousins as Harald's grandmother, Maud, was a sister to Elizabeth's grandfather, George.

Harald and Constantine (and therefore also Sofia), are third cousins by way of Christian X, and also by way of Queen Victoria. I'm doing a genealogy project, and without being nearly half way done or anything, Harald and Constantine are related in at least seven different ways. Mutual ancestors include Christian X (3rd cousins), Queen Victoria (3rd cousins), Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia (4th cousins once removed), Christian Albrecht of Gottorp (8th cousins once removed), Friedrich II of Hesse (6th cousins), Frederik 5 of Denmark (half 6th cousins), and Frederik 2 of Denmark (11th cousins once removed) ;)

Harald and Ernst August of Hannover are also 3rd cousins.

As are Harald and Juan Carlos of Spain.

Harald and Carl Gustaf of Sweden are 2. cousins once removed (Oscar II of Sweden), 3rd cousins (Queen Victoria), 4th cousins (Wilhelm of Schleswig Holstein Beck Glucksburg) 5th cousins (Friederich Wilhelm III of Prussia), 10th cousins (Frederik 3 of Denmark) and 12 cousins once removed (Christian 3 of Denmark)

Harald and Beatrix are 4th cousins once removed.

soCal girl 06-11-2006 03:49 AM

Carl Gustaf is cousins with Queen Margrethe and therefore Princess Benedikte and Queen Anne-Marie. Then that means Victoria, Carl Philip, and Madeleine are second cousins of Frederick and Joachim plus all the Greek offspring of King Constantine and Queen Anne-Marie.

Aren't Queen Margrethe and Queen Elizabeth first cousins? I was watching a documentary on Queen Elizabeth and Margrethe was on it and I'm pretty sure the caption said that they were cousins. If they are, through what royal are they related?

auntie 06-11-2006 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by soCal girl
Aren't Queen Margrethe and Queen Elizabeth first cousins? I was watching a documentary on Queen Elizabeth and Margrethe was on it and I'm pretty sure the caption said that they were cousins. If they are, through what royal are they related?

Elizabeth and Margertethe are third cousins twice : through Queen Victoria and King Christian of Denmark.

auntie 06-11-2006 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne
Note: I'm talking monarchs here... ;) And I'm using Harald V of Norway as my starting point for this post...

Given the current state of things, it would be wuite dangerous of the current royals of Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Great Britain and even Belgium to intermarry, as it would not be the first time! Which is a risk as far as genetic diseases are concerened.

tdarlene 06-11-2006 06:44 AM

aren't queen sofia of spain and price ernst-august firts cousins?????

Lila Rose 06-11-2006 06:46 AM

Filip of Belgium and Henri of Luxoumburg are cousins in first line.( King Albert is the brother of Josephine-Charlotte )

Juanita 06-11-2006 08:33 AM

So, if i get everything, all the European Royal Families are connected... :)

Toledo 06-11-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Bluffton
Can we get a thread going about how closely related the current reigning royals are?
Example -- isn't Queen Margrethe the 1st cousin of King Carl Gustav??? (Wasn't Queen Ingrid the sister of Carl Gustav's dad???)

I found some sites related to royal relations, not just Europeans but World royalty too. :) Hope this helps our inquisitive minds with new information on how royalty is related to current members and, as a extra, their past lineages:

Royalty and nobility lineages in countries outside of Europe


Royal and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web


Directory of Royal Genealogical Data


Royal Descents of famous people


Starke Genealogy Index of German Nobility

Toledo 06-11-2006 08:59 AM

Now, this is a must have and must print out for everyone here! I just found one of the most complete PDF genealogical trees on the British Royals. If you view it with the browser you have to use the zoom in because I'm afraid it lists everybody. Enjoy:
http://www.achievements.co.uk/services/royal/RFT.pdf

Australian 06-11-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toledo
Now, this is a must have and must print out for everyone here! I just found one of the most complete PDF genealogical trees on the British Royals. If you view it with the browser you have to use the zoom in because I'm afraid it lists everybody. Enjoy:
http://www.achievements.co.uk/services/royal/RFT.pdf

Thanks a lot for that link Toledo!

Furienna 06-11-2006 06:49 PM

Yeah! Thanks!

Toledo 06-11-2006 11:58 PM

Your welcome to you both.

christinacg 06-12-2006 01:10 AM

King Albert II of Belgium and Victor Emmanuel of Italy are first cousins (Alberts dad King Leopold and Victor's Mom Queen Marie Jose were brother and sister.)

And yes Tdarlene, Sofia and Ernst August are first cousins as well.

soCal girl 06-12-2006 01:18 AM

It makes me dizzy trying to figure out the family lineage of some of these royals. I wonder if the royals themselves know exactly how they're all related to one another. Do they know that this royal is their third cousin twice removed by this royal? It just gets confusing after awhile. :D

norwegianne 06-12-2006 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by soCal girl
It makes me dizzy trying to figure out the family lineage of some of these royals. I wonder if the royals themselves know exactly how they're all related to one another. Do they know that this royal is their third cousin twice removed by this royal? It just gets confusing after awhile. :D

I wonder if they just don't think: "hey, they're family" without going into long fussy diatribes regarding how they're family. ;)

I mean, most of them are related in one way or another, near or distant. Philippe of Belgium and Albert of Monaco are sixth cousins... if not even closer, but that's not something you go around remembering.

morhange 06-12-2006 04:30 AM

Six modern monarchies have descendents from Queen Victoria: Great Britain of course, and Spain, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Luxembourg. And Belgium is descended from the same family as Queen V, the Coburgs.

Marengo 06-12-2006 05:17 AM

I don't believe the Luxembourg RF descends from Queen Victoria. Only Princess Sybilla (nee Weiller) and her children do, through Princess Beatrice and her daughter Queen Ena.

Furienna 06-12-2006 08:43 AM

Victoria belonged to the house of Hannover. Her husband Albert was a Coburg.


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