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Princess Robijn 05-24-2006 07:33 AM

Princely House of Salm
 
Can anyone give me some information about Hereditary PrincessZita zu Salm-Salm and her family?

p.s. I don't know if I posted this thread at the correct place, please feel free to move it if I put it in the wrong place..

Warren 05-25-2006 03:46 AM

The Princely House of Salm




Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Robijn
Can anyone give me some information about Hereditary Princess Zita zu Salm-Salm and her family?

Hereditary Prince (Erbprinz) Emanuel zu Salm-Salm (b 1961) is the eldest son of Carl Philipp, 14th Fürst zu Salm, 9th Fürst zu Salm-Salm and 9th Fürst zu Salm-Kyrburg.

He married 1992 Zita von Klot-Heydenfeldt (b 1970), daughter of Burchard von Klot-Heydenfeldt and Countess Rixa von Westphalen zu Fürstenberg.

One of the genealogies shows Emanuel's status as 'divorced', none show any children.

Princess Robijn 05-25-2006 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren
Hereditary Prince (Erbprinz) Emanuel zu Salm-Salm (b 1961) is the eldest son of Carl Philipp, 14th Fürst zu Salm, 9th Fürst zu Salm-Salm and 9th Fürst zu Salm-Kyrburg.

He married 1992 Zita von Klot-Heydenfeldt (b 1970), daughter of Burchard von Klot-Heydenfeldt and Countess Rixa von Westphalen zu Fürstenberg.

One of the genealogies shows Emanuel's status as 'divorced', none show any children.

Thank you warren :)

michelleq 07-19-2006 06:56 PM

Is Prince Emanual seeing anyone? Any photo's? Where does he work?

Also, is this branch of the Salm Salm family Catholic or Lutheran?

Warren 07-20-2006 04:48 AM

Some Salm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michelleq
Also, is this branch of the Salm Salm family Catholic or Lutheran?

Here is a brief run-down of the House of Salm:

A Salm Superior

I. Line of Salm (Roman Catholic)

1st Branch: Salm-Salm
(Carl Philip, 14th Fürst zu Salm, 9th Fürst zu Salm-Salm and 9th Fürst zu Salm-Kyrburg, b1933)

2nd Branch: Salm-Kyrburg (extinct in the male line)

II. Line of Grumbach, actually Salm-Horstmar (Lutheran)
(Philipp Otto, 5th Fürst und Rheingraf zu Salm-Horstmar, b1938)


B Salm Inferior (House of Reifferscheidt) (Roman Catholic)

Line I: Salm-Reifferscheidt-Krautheim und Dyck (extinct in the male line 1958)
(Franz Josef, 6th Fürst und Altgraf zu Salm-Reifferscheidt-Krautheim und Dyck (1899-1958).

Line II: Salm-Reifferscheidt-Raitz
(Hugo, 7th Fürst und Altgraf zu Salm-Reifferscheidt-Raitz, b 1973)

michelleq 07-20-2006 09:34 PM

Once again, Thank you Warren! You are wonderful as always!

magnik 07-21-2006 10:43 AM

"The current Princely families of Salm actually belong to two separate families, i.e., the House of the Herren vom Stein, including the old Wild- u.Rheingrafen and the current Princes zu Salm-Salm and Salm-Horstmar; and the House of Reifferscheid, including the modern houses of Salm-Reifferscheidt-Dyck, Salm-Reifferscheid-Krautheim, and Salm-Reifferscheidt-Raitz."

A. Stein
1. Salm-Salm - The present members of this line bear the title Prince[ss] zu Salm-Salm, Wild- u.Rheingf[n] and title Serene Highness.
2. Salm-Kyrburg
3. Salm-Horstmar - The present members of this line bear the title Prince[ss] zu Salm-Horstmar, Wild- u.Rheingf[n] and title Serene Highness.

B. Reifferscheid
1. Salm-Reifferscheid-Krautheim u. Dyck - The present members of this line bear the title Altgraf/Altgräfin zu Salm-Reifferscheidt-Krautheim u.Dyck.
2. Salm-REfferscheid-Raitz - The present members of this line bear the title Altgraf/Altgräfin zu Salm-Reifferscheidt-Raitz.

http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/gotha/salm.html

magnik 07-21-2006 10:59 AM

zu Salm http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...&n=zu+salm&t=N
zu Salm-Dhaun http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...=zu+salm+dhaun
zu Salm-Grumbach http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...+salm+grumbach
zu Salm-Horstmar http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...m-horstmar&t=N
zu Salm-Kyrburg http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...u+salm+kyrburg
zu Salm-Neuviller comes family zu Salm-Salm http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...v=zu+salm+salm
zu Salm-Reifferscheid http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=e...+reifferscheid

michelleq 11-20-2006 11:39 PM

Does the Salm-Salm family have marriage laws as other German Houses?

Warren 11-21-2006 03:40 AM

They may not have written laws, but there would be traditions, expectations and preferences. In any case it would be up to the Head of each branch to apply, ignore or change any rules. Only one of the four children of the current Fürst zu Salm-Salm has made an "equal" marriage.

None of the current generation of Salm-Horstmar, including the Fürst, have made "equal" marriages either.

This can be seen as either accommodating to the modern world, or as a sign of declining standards. :biggrin:

britti 12-08-2006 02:02 PM

Has anyone got infos or pictures of the late Prince Nikolaus von Salm-Salm, born in 1913, by one of the daughters of Archduke Friedrich?

Marengo 01-15-2009 06:17 AM

Princess Isabelle of Salm-Salm, baroness von Loë, died on 11 January in Kevelaer at the age of 105. The princess was the oldest living royal and born at Potsdam on 13 February 1903. She is the daughter of hereditairy prince Emanuel of Salm-Salm and Archduchess Maria Christina of Austria.

In 1925 she married baron Felix von Loë, with who she got 7 children: Fritz, Christine (widow of prince Johannes of Löwenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg), Wessel (married to Countess Sophie of Waldburg zu Zeil und Trauchburg), Elisabeth, Paula, Franz and Marie Rosa. She has 23 grand children and at least 65 great grand children.

According to her grandson baron Raphael von Loë: 'On new years morning she still played the Mikado. er mind was still active but in the end the heart gave up. Her life wasn't always easy'.

Source: monarchen.nl

Jason R Maier esq 01-16-2009 08:45 PM

Wow . . . . 105. What a long, long life she lived.

And a large family to boot

michelleq 06-13-2009 05:43 PM

Any news on this family? Do they attend Roya Weddings and/or other Princely or Noble Weddings? Any news on the Erbprinz Emanuel?

Also, has anyone been to the castle?

I live through this board!

Thanking all in advance!

Dalps09 06-26-2009 08:45 AM

In some place, they refer her husband as a Freiherr (baron) von Loë while on other place he is a Graf (Count)? Which one is right, baron or count? Meanwhile I found her obituary where they refer her as "Isabelle Grafin von Loë". Here's the link with her photo:
http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-sp.../Isabelle2.jpg

Duchois 07-02-2009 05:17 AM

Prince of Salm-Salm
 
Hello,
I've been looking quite a long time for informations and photos of the actual family of Salm-Salm, I saw that pictures had been took in Senones, the capital of the ancient Principality, but I can't see them.
So if you have some informations and/or photos, Thank you.

michelleq 06-16-2010 07:17 PM

Any news on this family? What is Prince Emmanuel profession?

MichaelOH 08-21-2010 03:09 PM

de Bassy/von Salm
 
In putting together a family tree, I have come across an alleged XVI century marital union between Pierre de Bassy of Boulay, Moselle and Marie Ursule von Salm of Kyrburg, the child being Jean de Bassy (1543-1618). Is there any validity to this?:whistling:

Marengo 08-21-2010 08:03 PM

Do you mean on this site?

Rolf’s Family Tree - de Bassy, Pierre

I believe the German Johann cold be translated into the French Jean btw.

inigo 10-12-2010 01:03 PM

I was told that Emanuel Hereditary Prince (Erbprinz) of Salm-Salm has recently re-married. Has anyone any information about this? Who was his bride?


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