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wymanda 04-18-2004 04:53 AM

Princess Diana Ancestry and Relations
 
The following appeared in the Daily Mirror and is written by James Whittaker

ARROGANCE IS THE MARK OF SPENCER Apr 17 2004

I HAVE warned about Earl Spencer previously. In fact, more than once.

I didn't like the way he treated his first wife, the anorexic, much-troubled Victoria; I hated the way he went off for a dirty weekend with another woman within weeks of the wedding.

I positively loathed the way he rejected Princess Diana when she begged him for a bolt hole on the family estate, while I don't believe I've ever witnessed such a level of insolence as he displayed when chiding the Queen and her family during his eulogy to Diana at Westminster Abbey.

Since then things have not improved. Spencer who, I have to say, can charm the pants off anyone he meets when he chooses so to do, has horribly over-commercialised the life and times of his sister to a pitch that could be considered exploitative, if not vulgar.

He also spends too little time in this country to efficiently run his beautiful Northamptonshire estate, opting instead to spend sunny days in South Africa doing I'm not sure what.

He does knock out books from time to time but I'm doubtful whether he makes much dosh out of them. They're worthy (the latest is about the Battle of Blenheim, focusing on one of his ancestors, the Duke of Marlborough) but hardly money-spinners.

They certainly wouldn't be able to make up the sort of revenue he's losing now that the public are drifting away from visiting Althorp and the shrine he made to Princess Diana.

In 1998 150,000 visited the museum which remembers her childhood and the man-made island on which she is buried.

Last year, paying customers totalled 80,000. To break even, Spencer says he needs 120,000 visitors in the two months the place is open in July and August. So what's a chap to do?

In Spencer's case the answer was simple. Flog off 508 acres of his inherited estate for a housing development, a scheme that includes a Tesco superstore, a bus station, a medical practice and a state school.

When this idea was mooted five years ago, and quickly rejected by the locals and the council, the noble earl hoped to receive around £50million. But with building land in short supply and houses needed, prices have improved since then. Now he can expect maybe £250m for his troubles.

Conservationists hate the idea of this development; villagers know their life will be ruined for ever but, hey, who cares if Spencer's in the money?

Of course there'll be a public enquiry, naturally all and sundry will be consulted but few doubt what the final outcome will be.

By ploughing ahead, ignoring all the wails going on around him, Spencer will be acting purely in character.

Elspeth 04-19-2004 06:21 PM

And he complained when his stepmother sold family heirlooms to renovate the house. Now he's selling land. Raine must be loving this.

It was bad enough that he saw fit to use the Princess's funeral to criticise the royal family in public - the fact that he was there with his latest mistress rather than his wife made it hypocritical beyond words.

I finally read Paul Burrell's book, expecting to really dislike it but I was actually pleasantly surprised by his even-handedness. I noticed that Earl Spencer was one of only a handful of people in that book about whom Mr Burrell was uniformly negative.

tiaraprin 06-13-2004 02:02 AM

Good Lord, he is at it again!!

I have never been a fan of Earl Spencer. He seems like a spoiled brat.

Has anyone ever read his book about the Spencer family??

sara1981 06-14-2004 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by tiaraprin@Jun 13th, 2004 - 1:02 am
Good Lord, he is at it again!!

I have never been a fan of Earl Spencer. He seems like a spoiled brat.

Has anyone ever read his book about the Spencer family??

i dont think so! he not as BRAT!!!

but i dont read about Spencer legacy no! i will get books soon when i done read book of Diana's mum maybe i would get books in December or i would get order from Majesty magazine maybe!

Sara Boyce

Tatiana 06-14-2004 08:21 PM

Princess Diana Ancestry and Relations
 
A few years ago I read that Princess Diana's niece Emily (?) McCorquodale was ill with cancer. Has anyone heard how she is doing?

Thanks,

Tatiana

Jean 06-14-2004 10:28 PM

I heard about this too, I guess she's fine now. Haven't heard anything else about it in a while.

tiaraprin 06-15-2004 12:37 AM

I have heard nothing over here in the States--I hope she is well.

Lady Jean 06-15-2004 08:52 AM

It was announced in May 2003 that Emily had a rare cancer plasma cytoma...but I think she did a reading at her grandmother's funeral last week, so she must be doing reasonably well.

tiaraprin 06-18-2004 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Jean@Jun 15th, 2004 - 7:52 am
It was announced in May 2003 that Emily had a rare cancer plasma cytoma...but I think she did a reading at her grandmother's funeral last week, so she must be doing reasonably well.
That is great news that she is appearing in public and trying to go on with her life. Bravo to Emily!!

angela 06-18-2004 09:20 PM

My elder sister, Pauline, travelled to Lourdes, France around five years ago with the Handicapped Children's Pilgrimage Trust, HCPT. She worked with Francis Shand-Kydd. My sister's recollection is that Diana's mum, as she hated being called, was the first to clean up after the sick but also the first to get the gin & tonics in after a gruelling days work. On entering a particuarly snobbish eaterie which wouldn't serve the volunteers drinks unless they bought food Francis said to Pauline, "Watch me do my thing" and within minutes, whatever she said, they were welcomed inside. According to my sister that was Francis all over, an aristocratic woman who used her connections to benefit others. On leaving Lourdes Pauline reached out to shake her hand only to be embraced and told "Oh no Pauline, were friends". The reality is that my teacher sister has exchanged confidences with the grandmother of the future King of England which she has never even disclosed to her own family (although we have seen the photographs). If only Diana could have been so fortunate in those to whom she confided in.

tiaraprin 06-19-2004 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by angela@Jun 18th, 2004 - 8:20 pm
My elder sister, Pauline, travelled to Lourdes, France around five years ago with the Handicapped Children's Pilgrimage Trust, HCPT. She worked with Francis Shand-Kydd. My sister's recollection is that Diana's mum, as she hated being called, was the first to clean up after the sick but also the first to get the gin & tonics in after a gruelling days work. On entering a particuarly snobbish eaterie which wouldn't serve the volunteers drinks unless they bought food Francis said to Pauline, "Watch me do my thing" and within minutes, whatever she said, they were welcomed inside. According to my sister that was Francis all over, an aristocratic woman who used her connections to benefit others. On leaving Lourdes Pauline reached out to shake her hand only to be embraced and told "Oh no Pauline, were friends". The reality is that my teacher sister has exchanged confidences with the grandmother of the future King of England which she has never even disclosed to her own family (although we have seen the photographs). If only Diana could have been so fortunate in those to whom she confided in.
What a beautiful story Angela!! :flower: Thank you for sharing that with all of us. ;) May Mrs. Shand-Kydd rest in peace.

kelly9480 06-20-2004 12:29 PM

I read his book about Althorp. Once you get past his attempts to prove Diana's family isn't dirt, it's a good book about the house.

wymanda 06-20-2004 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by kelly9480@Jun 21st, 2004 - 12:29 am
I read his book about Althorp. Once you get past his attempts to prove Diana's family isn't dirt, it's a good book about the house.
I agree kelly. Earl Spencer certainly has a way with words. It is a shame that his actions don't always back them up.

His new wife seems to be a mature, level headed lady who wants to make Althorp memorable for more than Diana. In some ways she is in a similar position to Raine. Her son will never inherit the estate which will go to the present Viscount Althorp. Thankfully she has heaps more taste than Raine so we wont see the house painted "Cartland Pink" upstairs and down and regilded to within an inch of it's life! :P :P :P

Christo's Girl 01-15-2006 10:39 AM

Isn't it interesting how history repeats itself. As with his father, his first marriage was a disaster, and with his second wife, he is much calmer. It is like a Frances/Raine situation. I am glad to see though, that his first wife Victoria has recovered and now lives happily in South Africa.

KingArthur55 03-31-2006 06:33 PM

Princess Diana Ancestry and Relations
 
I recently read a small tidbit that Diana was a descendant of an Illegitimate son of Charles II. This would mean that when William succeeds, a direct bloodline to the Stuarts will be on the throne again after 300 years.


Since I read this bit on a site that I don't consider 100 percent reliable, I was wondering if anyone here could provide any links or info on this topic? I knew Diana had a fascinating lineage, but the connection to the Stuarts was news to me.


Thank you.

Jackswife 03-31-2006 07:25 PM

AFAIK, the connection arises from a liason between Charles II and the Duchess of Cleveland, Barbara Villiers, who had a son together, Henry Fitzroy. Can't really recall the line of descent but I think Henry was the great-great-great-great grandfather of Diana's father Johnny.

Vanesa 03-31-2006 07:29 PM

Yes. You are right. She descended from the Stuarts. And this make me happy, for, when Williams should be the King of England, the Stuarts and the Windsors blood will be reunited over U.K 's throne. This is very interesting in an historical point of view. Isn't it? :)

Vanesa.

Lord of Cowley 04-06-2006 12:46 AM

I agree that Stuart blood has never left the royal family. Indeed, the present royal family, as well as Sarah Ferguson, Diana Spencer AND Camilla Parker-Bowles are all descendants of Charles the Second. (The Queen Mother might have been as well, but I'll need to check up on that!) All of the mentioned people are about fifth and sixth cousins.

crisiñaki 04-06-2006 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord of Cowley
I agree that Stuart blood has never left the royal family. Indeed, the present royal family, as well as Sarah Ferguson, Diana Spencer AND Camilla Parker-Bowles are all descendants of Charles the Second. (The Queen Mother might have been as well, but I'll need to check up on that!) All of the mentioned people are about fifth and sixth cousins.

One big and happy family, wonder what would Jerry Springer say:rolleyes: :D
One consecuence of having an aristocracy like the British and German is that if you marry within your circle you'll eventually end up with someone blood-related even if it is in a far way;) :D

light85 04-15-2006 05:08 AM

that's kinda nasty, no wonder genetic diseases like hemophelia is known as the royal disease. lol.


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