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GrandDuchess 06-13-2004 09:44 AM

General Swedish Royalty Facts, Discussion and Questions
 
Here I though people could post things that doesn't really fit in the other categories, like these things I'm gonna post now (and hopefully other things in the future).

If you have anything that will give an insight into the life in or around the Royal House and the Royal Court, please post!

GrandDuchess 06-13-2004 09:45 AM

I've already posted this once in another thread, but it doesn't really fit there. I hope it's okay. If someone else has something like this, please post it! I love to know about these things. :P

* The dinner table in Karl XI’s Gallery is 44,5 metres long

* The carpet in Karl XI’s gallery is kept together with a 47 metres long zipper

* Personnel have to cut 35 kilometres of hedges in the Drottningholm Palace Park twice a year

* The Royal Domestic Households have over 3 000 tables and 9 000 chairs in their collections

* The biggest royal collector of books was Oscar II

* There’s 9 000 pieces in the musical collections in the Bernadotte Library (for ex the handwritten original of Prince Gustav’s graduation song (studensången) and a piece handwritten by Rossini)

* The Bernadotte Library contains 100 000 books

* When the National Library moved out of the Royal Palace of Stockholm, they took 6 000 running metres of books with them

* There’s over 500 000 pictures in the Bernadotte Picture Collection

* The Information & Press Department received 7 055 press clips about the Royal House & the Royal Palaces from Swedish press

* One of the largest parties lately was The King’s 25th jubilee when 2 000 people was invited

* Living lions have lived at the Royal Palace of Stockholm. When the Swedish troops stormed Prague in the end of the 30-year-war in 1648, they took living lions as a trade. They lived in the “lion dungeon” in the southern part of the palace

GrandDuchess 06-13-2004 09:49 AM

This is a guide for those of you who haven’t (yet) attended a royal banquet/dinner (if this would be the case for someone :P ) in Sweden.

To attend a Royal Banquet or Dinner in Sweden:

If you’re lucky (and who aren’t?) – you can be invited to a Royal Banquet or Dinner. There are a few different times when The King invites to the Royal Palace of Stockholm:

· The Gala Dinners during State Visits
· After elections there’s a Dinner for the Members of Parliament
· Official Dinners in the winter half year
· The King’s Reception and Dinner for the Nobel Laureates
· The Nobel Banquet on December 11


Invitation:
The invitation arrives 5-8 weeks in advance. It contains a response card and a ticket for your car. The reply is sent as soon as possible.

Outfit:
In the invitations is says högtidsdräkt (translates to special occasion costume). It means suit and the dress that goes with that (I’m not sure of the English terms for these things).

Time:
If it says 19:30 on the invitation, you show up at 19:20 at the latest.

Transport:
Most guests arrives to the Court Yard by car, you can park there. Then you walk up to the stairs hall where you are received by staff. After that you walk up though the impressing stairs in the Eastern Valve.

The outdoor clothes, ladies room, and table placing:
The Bernadotte rooms are often used as cloakroom. There’s also a ladies room there. The chamber guards will assist with that. Then you get your placing card for the dinner; they are laid out on a tray – in the letter order.

To Vita Havet (the White Sea):
Then you walk on, up a stairs to Vita Havet. It’s a very nice room, with a nice and warm ambience. There are fireplaces there.

Greetings:
When you arrive to Vita Havet, you are taken care of by The Lady of The Court and The Marshall of The Court. Straightforward to the right is a big carpet, on that stands the most prominent guests for the evening (like the Prime Minister or The Marshall of The Realm). You greet them and then continue clockwise to the spot that you have been shown/assigned too.

The King and Queen (or the members of the Royal House, depends on the occasion) arrives:
At 19:30, The Master of Ceremonies beat his “stick” to the floor three times. The doors are opened and The King and Queen or the Royal House enters. If it’s a Gala Banquet for a State Visit or connected to it, the guests go forward to greet them. If it’s not, The King and Queen or the members of the Royal House go around and greet the guests on their own.

To the tables:
When The King and Queen (or the members of the Royal House) have greeted their guests, it’s time to go to the tables. The Jägaren (the Hunter) goes first (The King’s sort of personal “valet”) and then the Löparen (the Runner) follows (who is The Queen’s sort of personal “valet”). Then The King and Queen follow, and the gentlemen offer the ladies their arms and you all go to the tables.

The table settings:
It’s taken two days to do the table settings. The tablecloths are each eight metres long. At The King and Queen’s places stand two handmade velvet chairs made in 1754. The napkins for The King and Queen are made as crowns.

The menu and table envelops:
The menu is in French (of course). You have four glasses, one is for water. The cutlery is in silver. During the dinner/banquet, different sets from the palace are used. For example the Berlin set with Norwegian motifs or Queen Josefina’s set from the 1800th century. If you’re lucky, you get to see and use the Paris set with motifs of fruits and birds.

The meal courses:
There are five courses. The dinner takes about one and a half hour and there are no speeches, with the exception on during State Visits.

After the meal:
You walk back to Vita Havet. Coffee is served, and if wished other beverages too. An invisible line between the royals and the others are formed.

Speaking with The King and Queen:
The King prefers to stand, while The Queen often sits down while talking to guests. The King has always decided which guests he wishes to talk to (it can be ambassadors or other persons who can inform The King about interesting things). When The King or Queen asks, you are “fetched” by The King’s Aid-de-Camp or The Queen’s Lady-in-Waiting. You don’t begin to speak to The King on your own.

The end:
At 22:55, The Master of Ceremonies beats his “stick” to the floor three times. The King and Queen (or the members of the Royal House) says goodbye with a bow and leaves the room. At 23:00 the numbers for the cars are called up, and the occasion is over.

Thanks
After the dinner/banquet, you write a thank you note to The Marshall of The Court.

DDD 06-13-2004 10:34 AM

Wow, that´s interesting. The Scandinavion countries are so good in such parties. I wished that all monarchies had such thing.

Josefine 06-13-2004 10:35 AM

good to know if i get a invetion in the future....

mixer2002de 06-13-2004 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Josefine@Jun 13th, 2004 - 9:35 am
good to know if i get a invetion in the future....
now everybody around here knows how to misbehave! :innocent: when he/she would be invited!

Dennism 06-14-2004 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by mixer2002de@Jun 13th, 2004 - 11:08 am

now everybody around here knows how to misbehave! :innocent: when he/she would be invited!

I will keep that in mind. :P

hrhcp 06-14-2004 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandDuchess
* The carpet in Karl XI’s gallery is kept together with a 47 metres long zipper

Intriguing topic, GrandDuchess. Thank you for your initiative.

Now .... what's with the "zipper" ?

- is it, like the first zipper made in the world ?
- the carpet has different motifs, so it can be used in different rooms at the same, at certain times of the year ?
- ?????? ... as you may well have noted, this "zipper" has caught my attention. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandDuchess
This is a guide for those of you who haven’t (yet) attended a royal banquet/dinner (if this would be the case for someone ) in Sweden.

To attend a Royal Banquet or Dinner in Sweden:

If you’re lucky (and who aren’t?) – you can be invited to a Royal Banquet or Dinner. There are a few different times when The King invites to the Royal Palace

Have you been invited, GrandDuchess ? :flower:

GrandDuchess 06-14-2004 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 14th, 2004 - 10:15 am
Now .... what's with the "zipper" ?

- is it, like the first zipper made in the world ?
- the carpet has different motifs, so it can be used in different rooms at the same, at certain times of the year ?
- ?????? ... as you may well have noted, this "zipper" has caught my attention. ;)

The zipper is just to hold together this really huge carpet, so that it lays firmly on the floor. Otherwise you never know if someone might tripp!

Dennism 06-14-2004 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by GrandDuchess@Jun 14th, 2004 - 8:48 am

The zipper is just to hold together this really huge carpet, so that it lays firmly on the floor. Otherwise you never know if someone might tripp!

O, no! That would be embarassing. :o

Lena 06-14-2004 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennism
O, no! That would be embarassing. :o [/b]

...but funny :P ...at least as long as the person doesn´t get hurt.

Dennism 06-14-2004 09:19 AM

Yes. I will admit that it could be funny. But the person would be quite embarassed though.

mixer2002de 06-14-2004 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Lena@Jun 14th, 2004 - 8:08 am

...but funny :P ...at least as long as the person doesn´t get hurt.

Carl Phillip lieing in front of your feet. Thats something you would like

Philippos 06-14-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GrandDuchess@ Jun 13th, 2004 - 3:49 pm
Outfit:
In the invitations is says högtidsdräkt (translates to special occasion costume). It means suit and the dress that goes with that (I’m not sure of the English terms for these things).

No, wait a minute. If the invitations says »högtidsdräkt», it means, that men shall wear »frack» (which in English means tail coat), and that ladies shall wear »galaklänning» (which in English means robe), which is preferable, or »aftonklänning» (which in English means evening dress).

star84 10-31-2004 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandDuchess
Madeleine Thérèse Amelie Josephine, Princess of Sweden, Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland, was born on June 10, 1982 at Drottningholm Palace.

This may be a supid question... but are Hälsingland and Gästrikland the same place? and if not, why is Madeleine duchess of 2 places, and the others only one?

Dennism 11-01-2004 01:46 AM

They are actually two places right next to each other. Both make up the whole of the modern-day province of Gävleborg. Hälsingland is the larger of the two. It should be noted that she was the first member to receive two provinces in her name.

Josefine 02-15-2005 03:52 PM

at the time when victoria and carl philip was children madeleine noy yet born
there was 3 nannies that worked in shift
they had bedrooms near the children rooms


weekends there are not often staff precent
the royal family are on thieer own
Silvia was asked once in the book, silvia drottningen
who makes her bed
she said she does that who else

betina 02-17-2005 04:17 AM

The veil queen ingrid wears is not the same as queen Lovisa wears. queen ingrids is her mothers bridal veil.

Betina

Josefine 02-17-2005 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betina
The veil queen ingrid wears is not the same as queen Lovisa wears. queen ingrids is her mothers bridal veil.

Betina

I do not follow you who said she wears the same veil

rop81 02-17-2005 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josefine
is this a court dress

I think that I have heard somewhere that this is the traditional mourning dress of the swedish court, but i´m not sure.


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