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lilou 06-08-2005 02:49 AM

Kate Middleton Current Events 3: October-December 2005
 
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Elspeth 10-20-2005 03:14 PM

Kate Middleton Current Events part 3
 
Welcome to part 3 of the thread for current news and photos of Kate Middleton, Prince William's girlfriend.

Part 2 is here:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=7173

Harry's polo shirt 10-20-2005 11:40 PM

WOW! there is already a part 3!

polop 10-21-2005 12:10 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4354636.stm

I seriously think she needs to get over her self.She is already complaining of the "pressure." God, if you don't want the pressure then don't commit!:cool:

BeatrixFan 10-21-2005 12:17 PM

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I seriously think she needs to get over her self.She is already complaining of the "pressure." God, if you don't want the pressure then don't commit
I agree totally but there has to be a line drawn. When Diana Spencer was in her early days of being engaged to Prince Charles, the media were following her everywhere. The Queen called various editors to the Palace and said, "It's a pretty rum deal if she can't even go to the shops for a bag of sweets without being snapped" - an editor said, "Why doesn't she send a footman for the sweets?" - the Queen said, "What a pompous suggestion". He needed a few gin and tonics to steady himself after that!

Miss Middleton is dating an heir to the throne. If she doesn't like being photographed then she had to find ways to deal with them. Stand still, turn turn, give them their photograph and then move on. If she tries to hide, it becomes a game for the Press and she'll be hounded.

Give and take is the answer and if she can't cope now then how will she cope in the future, should she have to?

CasiraghiTrio 10-21-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
I agree totally but there has to be a line drawn. When Diana Spencer was in her early days of being engaged to Prince Charles, the media were following her everywhere. The Queen called various editors to the Palace and said, "It's a pretty rum deal if she can't even go to the shops for a bag of sweets without being snapped" - an editor said, "Why doesn't she send a footman for the sweets?" - the Queen said, "What a pompous suggestion". He needed a few gin and tonics to steady himself after that!

Miss Middleton is dating an heir to the throne. If she doesn't like being photographed then she had to find ways to deal with them. Stand still, turn turn, give them their photograph and then move on. If she tries to hide, it becomes a game for the Press and she'll be hounded.

Give and take is the answer and if she can't cope now then how will she cope in the future, should she have to?

I agree. The paparazzi treated Lady Diana Spencer the same way. Frances Shand Kydd wrote a letter to the Fleet Street editors pleaing for them to leave her daughter alone. This was all during the courtship of Diana and Charles. It got pretty bad for Diana, bad enough for her mother to write that letter, so why can't people believe it is getting so bad for Kate? Hindsight is 20/20. I'm sure people thought Diana was whining and was "full of herself" in 1980 too.

sara1981 10-21-2005 12:53 PM

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I agree. The paparazzi treated Lady Diana Spencer the same way. Frances Shand Kydd wrote a letter to the Fleet Street editors pleaing for them to leave her daughter alone. This was all during the courtship of Diana and Charles. It got pretty bad for Diana, bad enough for her mother to write that letter, so why can't people believe it is getting so bad for Kate? Hindsight is 20/20. I'm sure people thought Diana was whining and was "full of herself" in 1980 too.

i would agree with you!

but Diana was mostly photographer woman in the world but i dont think her mother would write letters to editors about her royals daughters but i think Diana wanted be alone and no "help" and before she died Diana got mad at her mother for more reasons and she got slam at her mom by the phone and she wanted be alone till she died.

I think Kate would learn ingore by the paparazzi like Diana had it and the paparazzi still follow Diana for 15 years since 1981-1997 if Kate would get married to William we have wait and see.

Sara Boyce

BeatrixFan 10-21-2005 12:56 PM

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Hmmm. Diana became a bit of an attention seeker when she was older and when she divorced. She wanted the Press to be there and she wanted to have her photograph taken. When the Press wanted to take photographs and it wasnt convienient for her, she became ratty and played the shy young girl hounded by the Press.

In MY OPINION anyway.

Warren 10-21-2005 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Hmmm. Diana became a bit of an attention seeker when she was older and when she divorced. She wanted the Press to be there and she wanted to have her photograph taken. When the Press wanted to take photographs and it wasnt convienient for her, she became ratty and played the shy young girl hounded by the Press.In MY OPINION anyway.

It's no secret she had her favourite reporters who she would whisper secrets to (hello Richard Kay), but playing the paparazzi is a more dangerous game. Journalists can be drip-fed when required, but freelance photographers are beholden to no celebrity, and are voracious. As Sarah Ferguson found to her cost, and humiliation.
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Britters 10-21-2005 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
I agree totally but there has to be a line drawn. When Diana Spencer was in her early days of being engaged to Prince Charles, the media were following her everywhere. The Queen called various editors to the Palace and said, "It's a pretty rum deal if she can't even go to the shops for a bag of sweets without being snapped" - an editor said, "Why doesn't she send a footman for the sweets?" - the Queen said, "What a pompous suggestion". He needed a few gin and tonics to steady himself after that!

Miss Middleton is dating an heir to the throne. If she doesn't like being photographed then she had to find ways to deal with them. Stand still, turn turn, give them their photograph and then move on. If she tries to hide, it becomes a game for the Press and she'll be hounded.

Give and take is the answer and if she can't cope now then how will she cope in the future, should she have to?

There is one glaring difference here, Kate Middleton is not engaged to Prince William. She is simply (for the time being) dating him, and for that reason alone should be granted some amount of privacy. Kate did not willingly place herself in front of those camera lenses, and while I find it very naive of her to believe she wouldn't be hounded and photographed following Prince William's departure from St. Andrews, it's not fair to tell her to get over herself, or to criticize her for wanting what little privacy she can have (and has the right to have.)

If this relationship lasts the test of time then there will be many a time when Kate will have to deal with the press, but right now, when she is simply dating someone, should not be that time.

segolen 10-22-2005 01:11 PM

this article says it all. It's from The Mirror

"Her dilemma is that she wants to be with William - the world's most eligible bachelor - but she doesn't want the attention that goes with it.
Well, to be blunt, that's tough.
She needs to accept that she will be photographed wherever she goes, she will be written about endlessly.
Her likes and dislikes will be speculated upon relentlessly, while the attention, the scrutiny will be ceaseless.
The crucial difference between Kate's situation and that of the late Princess is that she will have a loving partner to support and protect her.
The late Princess never had that. Kate should be grateful that she will not have to face the enmity alone."

sara1981 10-22-2005 02:36 PM

i read mirror articles but i knew paul burrell but dont listen to him! but Kate's choice to lived with Wills what she wanted it!

THE SATURDAY SOAPBOX: WHY KATE CAN WIN OVER 'THE FIRM'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...name_page.html

BeatrixFan 10-22-2005 02:39 PM

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I think if any of the Royal Family listen to Paul Burrell then they most definately need "ex-communicating".

William knows his own mind and Kate isn't stupid - she knows the problems of getting involved with an heir to the throne - let's not have another shy little sparrow who uses the media to her advantage one minute and claims it ruined her life the next.

It's time for them both to grow up a little.

CasiraghiTrio 10-22-2005 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Britters
There is one glaring difference here, Kate Middleton is not engaged to Prince William. She is simply (for the time being) dating him, and for that reason alone should be granted some amount of privacy. Kate did not willingly place herself in front of those camera lenses, and while I find it very naive of her to believe she wouldn't be hounded and photographed following Prince William's departure from St. Andrews, it's not fair to tell her to get over herself, or to criticize her for wanting what little privacy she can have (and has the right to have.)

If this relationship lasts the test of time then there will be many a time when Kate will have to deal with the press, but right now, when she is simply dating someone, should not be that time.

Ditto. This was perfectly stated. Excellent point. She has not committed herself to being a royal. She should not be followed by paparazzi. They are doing it, are expected to do it, and they will continue, but it's not right and it is not fair for them to do this. If she chose to accept William's proposal of marriage, that would be one thing. In that case, yes, we could say, "she chose it. She has to deal." For now, she is just his girlfriend. She should be treated like any other friend of his. Like Edward van Cutsem or any of the others. Not followed 24/7 by freelance photographers. That is inappropriate.

BeatrixFan 10-22-2005 03:03 PM

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Not followed 24/7 by freelance photographers. That is inappropriate
Sadly, the media culture is very different from past years when individuals had some control. You either become a media prostitute and a poser or you wander around with your head wrapped in a scarf and wear huge sunglasses.

P.S - I love you avatar CasiraghiTrio!

Harry's polo shirt 10-22-2005 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by polop
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4354636.stm

I seriously think she needs to get over her self.She is already complaining of the "pressure." God, if you don't want the pressure then don't commit!:cool:

I agree, she is already complaining. Its not like the photos were of her in her home..the photos were of public places. the friends pics are another matter-now she can find her true friends. if her only "pressure" is being photographed on a bus she should be thankfull!

maryshawn 10-22-2005 03:30 PM

So, Mr. Burrell is adding his two pence worth to this situation. IMO, he's the one who is addicted to the royal family and the spotlight and, you're right, anyone who would listen to him needs serious help! Kate shouldn't--as William's girlfriend--be followed 24/7; unfortunately, I don't think there's much which can be done about it if she wants to try and have any kind of life, including riding a bus or going on a job interview. She's "news," and stories of her sell papers and that's all the editors of these tabloids care about in the long run--so they're not going to call off their photographers. Look at poor Carolyn Bessette; she had to quit her job and, according to Newsweek, spend months inside John's apartment, sleeping till 3 PM, depressed and isolated in order to throw the press off the trail before their wedding. What kind of life is that? Kate and William have just come off of several rather isolated, private years and are young. Who knows if they will find others and this romance will go by the wayside? I don't know anyone who could be properly prepared for this scrutiny. But Paul Burrell weighing in just drives me nuts! Why doesn't the man just go away and be content he had his 15 minutes of fame and be done with it?

BeatrixFan 10-22-2005 03:39 PM

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The terrible thing is, Burrell seems to think he can talk FOR the nation. He seems to be labouring under the missapprehension that we care what he thinks and he has appointed himself the Royalist Spokesman. He most certainly doesn't talk for me and is almost as bad as Peter Tatchell who claimed in a recent interview that he 'hated the Royal Family and [I] speak for most of the gay community when I say that' - why do these people think they can speak for us all?!

CasiraghiTrio 10-22-2005 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maryshawn
So, Mr. Burrell is adding his two pence worth to this situation. IMO, he's the one who is addicted to the royal family and the spotlight and, you're right, anyone who would listen to him needs serious help! Kate shouldn't--as William's girlfriend--be followed 24/7; unfortunately, I don't think there's much which can be done about it if she wants to try and have any kind of life, including riding a bus or going on a job interview. She's "news," and stories of her sell papers and that's all the editors of these tabloids care about in the long run--so they're not going to call off their photographers. Look at poor Carolyn Bessette; she had to quit her job and, according to Newsweek, spend months inside John's apartment, sleeping till 3 PM, depressed and isolated in order to throw the press off the trail before their wedding. What kind of life is that? Kate and William have just come off of several rather isolated, private years and are young. Who knows if they will find others and this romance will go by the wayside? I don't know anyone who could be properly prepared for this scrutiny. But Paul Burrell weighing in just drives me nuts! Why doesn't the man just go away and be content he had his 15 minutes of fame and be done with it?

Yes, Paul Burrell is being ridiculous. I don't have anything against the guy. I'm sure he's been through his share of crap with the royal family. But he should really move on. He's written a book and made more than enough from it to pay off those insane legal fees. So now he should shut his trap and stay out of William and Kate's affairs.

segolen 10-22-2005 03:44 PM

as someone said earlier ,the photos oh her were on public places and tons of people saw her. The only different thing is that by posting the photos ,we are able to see it as well. I do not see the photos of her as an "evil" thing, unless very private. Having a few snop shots of her on very crowded area is not involving privacy at all. I believe it is a difference between a"good" and "a bad" gossip . If they stop posting photos of her and info about het, most of the royals will require the same and we won't have any forums for the simple reason we won't have any info at all. Did you guys get it ?or some might need more proof .


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