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auntie 09-27-2005 10:10 AM

Unexpected Monarchs
 
Lets start a thread of King and\or Queens who got to this position unexpectadly and the reason why.

King George VI and his wife Elizabeth became monarch as a result of his brothers abdication.

King George V as a result of his brother death.

Any more further back in history?:D

auntie 09-27-2005 10:21 AM

King Henry VIII after his brothers death became the Prince of Wales and went on to being a king

norwegianne 09-27-2005 11:04 AM

Haakon VII of Norway - born 3rd (father and brother before him) in line to the Danish throne, elected by the Norwegian people to be their King.

Mapple 09-27-2005 12:09 PM

Almost everyone of the Russian monarchs of the 18th Century; the then-existing law on succession allowed monarch to appoint anyone he liked as a successor.

Emperor Nicholas I of Russia--his elder brother abjured the throne.

Emperor Alexander III of Russia--his elder brother died young.

King William IV of the United Kingdom--the death of his niece Charlotte Augusta, the only daughter of future George IV, in 1817 made the prospect of his succession very likely.

Marengo 09-27-2005 12:23 PM

King Alebert II of the Belgians, became king after his brother, King Baudouin I, died. Most believed the king would renounce his rights in favour of his eldest son.

cd_1 09-27-2005 12:37 PM

Current King Abdullah of Jordan, his father changed the succession at the last minute- switching from his brother to his son.

magnik 09-27-2005 12:55 PM

In our Polish history we had many (if almost not all) unexpected monarchs, especially since XVIth century when we have free election (f.ex. Henri de Valois - Henryk III King of Poland and France, Michał Korybut Wiśniowiecki).

Before him was St.Jadwiga (Hedviga) d'Anjou - King of Poland, daughter Louis I - King of Hungry and Poland. Her elder sister Maria was first choose for Polish ruler but she married Sigismond de Luxembourg emperor Rom.-Germ.

In Russia - don't forget about Catherina II the Great.

SpiffyBallerina 09-27-2005 01:47 PM

Queen Margrethe II - Succession law was finally changed in 1953 to allow her to take the throne. (LUCKY for Denmark!!!)
If the laws hadn't been changed, Prince Knud and his family of inbreeds(not an insult but just a pure fact) would have had the throne and most people agree that the monarchy would be gone if that had happened.

tiaraprin 09-27-2005 04:08 PM

There are many in British History:

Mary and Elizabeth Tudor: Both bastardized but later restored to the succession but not their legitimacy, these two women went on to be the first female monarchs universally recognized in their own right by most royals. Matilda, daughter of Henry I, was technically the first Queen Regnant, but the loyal barons turned their back on her for a male heir, her cousin Stephen.

Charles II was exiled for many years until his restoration came in 1660. He despaired of ever returning to England and becoming King.

Mary II and Anne I. These Stuart sisters reigned after their half brother was declared a changeling snuck in by a warming pan.

George I. The succession passed to the Hanoverians after the Stuart line died with Queen Anne to insure a Protestant monarch.

Richard II. His father, the Black Prince, and his elder brother both died leading the way to his becoming King and to the beginning of the War of the Roses.

John I. With so many brothers ahead of him, he never saw the crown coming to him. He was known by John Lackland, because his father didn't have an inheritance for him. One by one, his father and brothers died leaving him as the only son remaining of Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine.

Charles I. His elder brother Henry died paving his way to the crown. What may have been if his brother had lived?? There may never have been a Commonwealth under Cromwell.

Queen Victoria. Many uncles and the possibility of their offspring stood between Victoria and the crown. These uncles passed away leaving no legitimate issue.

magnik 09-27-2005 06:31 PM

Don't forget about Jane Grey - Queen of nine days (10 VII - 19 VII 1553).

betina 09-27-2005 06:55 PM

prince Vilhelm of denmark (later Georgios 1 of the Hellenes)

SpiffyBallerina 09-27-2005 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tiaraprin

Mary II and Anne I. These Stuart sisters reigned after their half brother was declared a changeling snuck in by a warming pan.

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but what does that mean?

tiaraprin 09-27-2005 11:19 PM

The Infamous Warming Pan Story and the Glorious Revolution of 1688
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tiaraprin
Mary II and Anne I. These Stuart sisters reigned after their half brother was declared a changeling snuck in by a warming pan.

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Originally Posted by SpiffyBallerina
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but what does that mean?

Mary and Anne were the daughters of James II of England by his first wife Anne Hyde. James became a Catholic and the people of England despaired his becoming King because his elder brother, Charles II, could not have a legitimate child with his Queen, Catherine of Braganza.
Anne Hyde died and James married an extremely pious Catholic princess, Mary of Modena. If James had a son, Mary and Anne, both raised Protestant by the order of Charles II, would lose their place in the succession behind the son.

Mary of Modena had many miscarriages and still births. In 1688, she became pregnant once again and all of England held its collective breath. James was now King and wanted to bring England back to the Catholic fold. The Protestant majority was desperate to prevent Catholicism from coming back as the primary religion of England. If James had a son, he would raise that son Catholic.

Whispers and rumors began to circulate that the Queen was not pregnant. It was whispered that the Queen was padding her dresses and allowed no one to see her undress among her ladies in waiting. Anne, daughter of James, was a great promoted of these rumors. Mary, his eldest daughter, was being sounded out to come back and depose her father and reign with her husband, William of Orange.

James' Queen was delivered of a son and all of England became alarmed. They needed to find a way to make the baby illegitimate. A story was circulated that the Queen either faked labor or was delivered of a still born child. The story continued that James had a baby smuggled into the Queen's birthing chamber in a warming pan, a device used to warm beds before people went to sleep. It was a ridiculous assertion, a warming pan is not big enough to smuggle a baby in. However, England seized the rumor as a reason to overthrow James and bring his eldest daughter Mary and her husband to come and be Co-Monarchs. James, being outnumbered, fled with his wife and son to France where he died. Mary and William became King and Queen. The Protestant succession was restored. This event is known as the Glorious Revolution of 1688.

Mary and William had no children, so the crown passed to Anne. All of Anne's children did not survive. In 1714, Anne died, thus ending the Stuart dynasty and bringing over the Hanoverians.
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Iain 09-28-2005 03:58 PM

Queen Liliuokalani of Hawaii. Her brother died childless.

Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands. She had three step brothers who all died before their father.

Prince Franz Joseph of Liechtenstien. His uncle died childless.

King Norodom Sihanouk of Cambodia. His uncle died childless. Then there was his father King Norodom Suramarit. He became King when Norodom Sihanouk abdicated in 1955. On the death of Norodon Suramarit, Norodom Sihanouk succeeded him. (Complicated one this!)

Queen Margarethe of Denmark. The people voted to change the law to allow a female to take the throne.

Jackswife 09-28-2005 05:46 PM

Tsar Alexander III (Nicholas II' father) became Tsarevich after his older brother Nicholas died of meningitis at age 21. (Alexander also married his dead brother's fiancee Dagmar, who became better known as Marie).

King Juan Carlos of Spain became "heir" after his older brother was accidentally killed in a shooting accident. (I put the heir in quotes due to the circumstances of JC being groomed for the position of King by Franco).

Very fascinating to see all the twists and turns that history has taken over the years!:)

selrahc4 09-28-2005 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackswife
King Juan Carlos of Spain became "heir" after his older brother was accidentally killed in a shooting accident.

I thought it was his younger brother.

Ennyllorac 09-28-2005 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackswife
Tsar Alexander III (Nicholas II' father) became Tsarevich after his older brother Nicholas died of meningitis at age 21. (Alexander also married his dead brother's fiancee Dagmar, who became better known as Marie).

King Juan Carlos of Spain became "heir" after his older brother was accidentally killed in a shooting accident. (I put the heir in quotes due to the circumstances of JC being groomed for the position of King by Franco).

Very fascinating to see all the twists and turns that history has taken over the years!:)

Actually Infanta Pilar is the oldest of Juan Carlos' siblings, she was born in 1936, Juan Carlos was born in 1938, Margarita in 1939 and Alfonso in 1941 (making him younger than Juan Carlos). Juan Carlos was chosen by Franco to succeed him bypassing Juan Carlos's father.

Mahoogie 09-29-2005 02:01 AM

Is Prince Rainier of Monaco considered as an unexpected monarch?.I've heard that his maternal grandfather, Prince Louis abdicated and Rainier's mother, Princess Charlotte was the supposed heiress but the Princess wanted his son to directly inherit the throne, so she passed it to Prince Rainier,and Ranier became the sovereign after Prince Louis, his grandfather..

BMC 09-29-2005 09:17 AM

Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg- her sister GD Marie Adelaide was forced to abdicate.

Sean.~ 09-30-2005 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackswife
Tsar Alexander III (Nicholas II' father) became Tsarevich after his older brother Nicholas died of meningitis at age 21. (Alexander also married his dead brother's fiancee Dagmar, who became better known as Marie).

Nicholas I became Tsar after the early demise of his brother, Alexander I. (However, some claim that Alexander I didn't die, but that he lived the rest of his life as a holy man or a monk).


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