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lashinka2002 05-18-2004 01:29 PM

Jazmin Rotolo (Grimaldi) Part 1
 
I believe her name is Jasmine Grace & she was born in the US.
I read about it in one of the biographical books on the Monaco family out there.
Can't remember which one.
Anyways there seems to be a really tight lid kept on this topic because there doesn't seem to be much information available out there. :blush:

Jacqueline 05-18-2004 01:32 PM

Actually, I believe that his girl was said to be his daughter for a time, but that the times and dates of her birth and conception made it nearly impossible for Albert to actually be her father. I don't believe that she is daughter. There was a more thorough discussion about the details of this situation earlier in this forum. Perhaps, someone who knows more of this or who participated in the earlier discussion can give us more information.

Lalla Meriem 05-19-2004 07:41 AM

The book is The Royal House of Monaco by John Glatt. I would point out that this books is FULL of simple errors.

The child in question is Jazmine Grace Grimaldi (you can give your children any surname you like in the US) who is the daughter of Tamara Rotolo. The time of the birth of Jazmine would have made her date of conception some 2 months before Tamara ever even met Albert.

Tamara took some really nasty and some quite obsessive public steps to try and get Albert to acknowledge this child.

Albert did make himself look rather guilty during the trial (which was dismissed). However, Albert did take a sample of the childs DNA. Had the child actually been his I expect he would have at the very least offered some quite finacial support to her. She has been quite clear that Albert has never given her any money. Which is what she wanted.

I don't doubt that Albert had relations with this women but I highly doubt that he is the father of her child.

lashinka2002 06-11-2004 11:28 PM

Thanks for taking the time to respond. The info posted is great. If I find the book that I read than I'll post the name of it. :lol:

Lalla Meriem 06-12-2004 07:08 AM

Albert has had several paternity suits over the years. One brought by a German actress (Bea Fidler, I think) he gave DNA for (he was ordered to) and it turned out that he was not the father of the child.

This little Jasmine may be cute, blonde, and blue eyed but that doesn't mean Albert is her father (this is the reason the German actress thought her child belonged to Albert). The dates simply do not allow for Albert to have been present during her conception which I think would be necessary for him to be her biological father under the alleged circumstances (ie...intercourse not IVF).

renats 06-13-2004 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Lalla Meriem@Jun 12th, 2004 - 6:08 am
This little Jasmine may be cute, blonde, and blue eyed but that doesn't mean Albert is her father (this is the reason the German actress thought her child belonged to Albert).
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You must be kidding me!
Well, maybe her thought is understanding since Albert is the last man that has blond genes on earth! :huh: :innocent: :huh:
Seriously, that woman is insane! I always thought that many people here were "out of themselves"(I'm saying that in a friendly way) for saying that Camille looks like Grace(come on, Camille is Steph's "clone"! I heard from a pro).....and she's the granddaughter for sure.....now, to imagine that a guy is the father of her child just because of that is just insane. Even Stephanie for example is a brunette, had only dark haired fathers for her kids, and all of her children are blond. 2 of them blonder than I could imagine that they could be! That Bea must think that they're not grimaldi-ducruet-gottlieb biological kids :lol: ....is there really a way to think that? That woman really needs to come back to the planet! :lol: :lol:

Lalla Meriem 06-13-2004 04:39 AM

There was no question that Bea and Albert had a one time sexual encounter, so it was actually possible that he child did belong to him. Neither denied the sexual encounter. However, when the test came back proving 100% that Albert was not the childs father she said she didn't know who else it could be because of the hair and eyes. For sure, she doesn't know anything about genetics!

Comments regarding Albert's sexual orientation edited out by Mandy

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 10:20 AM

Jazmin Rotolo (Grimaldi)
 
Quote:

September 10, 2005

The New Prince of Monaco Confronts His Past

By CRAIG S. SMITH

MONACO, Sept. 9 - His Serene Highness Albert II, Sovereign Prince of Monaco, Marquis of Baux, sits alone in his mother's old corner office on the top floor of his palace beneath a small crenellated clock tower from which flies the white flag of Monaco.

It has been a punishing six months for the prince since the death of his father, the dashing Prince Rainier III, whose marriage to the glamorous Grace Kelly created the Monaco that the world knows today as much as any tax laws or stone and mortar.

Midway through the official yearlong mourning period for his father, just as the bachelor prince was trying to assimilate his new responsibilities and project the gravitas expected of him as a ruler, a former flight attendant announced with rather graphic detail in Paris-Match that she and Prince Albert had conceived a son, Alexandre, who was born two years ago.

"It was a very difficult moment for me," he said with characteristic understatement, adding that he is still "coming to terms" with the unintended fatherhood. When asked if he believed he was tricked into having a child, as the mother's account suggested, he was unflinching. "Yes, I think I was set up," he said.

At 47, with wire-rimmed glasses, American-cut charcoal gray suit and black wingtip shoes, Prince Albert II looks more like a prosperous Midwestern banker than the sovereign of the world's smallest principality.

Though he seems indisputably European when speaking French, there is something in his features and his flat American accent when speaking English that recalls, however improbably, the actor Dennis Quaid and gives someone meeting him for the first time the impression of watching a movie in which the main character has been miscast. This is less the Riviera playboy or the medal-bedecked European monarch the tabloids love than the well-bred Amherst College boy he once was.

He is surprisingly funny, though one has to listen closely to catch all of his dry asides, delivered as his voice trails off into a murmur. He does not own a yacht, or even a dinghy. He drives a hybrid gas-and-electric Lexus S.U.V.

He attributes his American demeanor to the time he spent with his mother's family in the United States while growing up and to four summers at Camp Tecumseh on Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire.

Yet he also seems aware that much of Monaco's continuing attraction lies in maintaining the precarious fantasy of royalty in a modern age without turning himself into the central character of a very expensive theme park. He never appears in the public areas of the palace without a tie, which on this day was a pale, silvery blue. All palace correspondence and communiqués capitalize the pronouns when referring to him.

He has made one change: tradition long held that the flag flying from the staff on the tower above his office be hoisted when the prince was in Monaco. But Prince Albert flies the flag regardless of whether he is in town or not, preferring to keep his whereabouts, like so much else in his life, out of public view.

The small office is cluttered with an eclectic assortment of artwork and memorabilia: an odd sculpture of artificial flowers sits on the floor beside the door; a bronze sculpture of a woman's torso stands in front of windows overlooking the yacht-filled port below; a black-and-white photograph of his mother in her youth stands on a mantle beside an antique clock, one of the few bits of décor that remain from when she occupied the room.

He sits in a low, leather easy chair, one of a set that dominates the room. The chair is so low his knees are higher than his lap. His feet fidget as he talks and his voice is surprisingly high, almost boyish as he speaks about the pressures of finding a princess who can stand up to his mother's legend.

"There was pressure, not so much from the family but people outside were expecting and are still expecting something big to happen," he said, adding that it has taken him a long time to feel ready for that challenge.

"Some called it immaturity," he said. "I don't think it was immaturity, but I wanted to do it in the right way."

He said that finding someone to fill Princess Grace's shoes "has not only scared me, but also many women I have known."

"It has scared them away," he said. "It will be very difficult for whoever will be with me, not even in marriage, whoever goes out with me seriously. Even if she doesn't look remotely like my mother, she will be compared to her."

He said he was not involved with anyone now and was too busy to look.

The prince lives alone in the palace, in the family's private wing that juts out from the main building and overlooks the principality's newest neighborhood, Fontevielle, built on reclaimed land.

But most of his private life takes place at Rocagel, the remote mountain retreat that his father built high above Monaco, reached by a long series of hairpin turns on roads cut into the mountainside, one of which claimed his mother's life in 1982.

He is gradually making the property his own and recently had two tons of sand trucked up the hill and dumped near the swimming pool on the farm's rustic grounds to lay a beach volleyball court, where he occasionally entertains friends. He has always been known as a sportsman, and for years occupied a spot on Monaco's Olympic bobsled team.

"I've practiced a lot of different sports," he said. "I stopped counting after 15."

NOW that he has inherited his father's title, he seems to be searching for what will define him. He began by retracing the steps of his great-great-grandfather, Albert I, with an Arctic expedition in July. Next April, he plans to travel by dog sled to the North Pole, 100 years after his namesake did the same.

While his father had a history of suspicious business deals (he was accused by the French of elaborate and dubious but highly profitable stock market arbitration on the eve of his coronation), Prince Albert II may become known more for conservation and clean dealing.

"I'm tired of seeing the press equate Monaco with money laundering," he said.

Despite the principality's lingering image as "a sunny place for shady people," in W. Somerset Maugham's famous phrase, present-day Monaco is really more of a conventioneer and package-tour destination. Only 4 percent of its state revenues comes from the storied casino, now mostly patronized by hard-bitten Russians, and just 10 percent comes from banking transactions. The biggest chunk of national revenue, about two-thirds, comes from a value-added tax on goods and services sold in Monaco, which the principality shares with France.

"I intend, however, that ethics remain the backdrop for all the actions" of the Monaco authorities, he told his subjects in his first speech as sovereign in July, vowing to respect the French and American tax regulations.

He is resisting proposals to extend Monaco's territory with a man-made peninsula extending off the eastern end of the tiny city-state, arguing that a large project would gobble up beachfront, block views and overwhelm the principality's already car-jammed tangle of narrow, twisting roads.

"How many more thousands of people do we want to add to Monaco?" he asked, warming to a subject he clearly cares about. Monaco now has 32,000 residents, 7,100 of whom are citizens.

He is also interested in alternative energy, and talks with passion about hybrid vehicles, fetching a French-English dictionary to check the word for the kind of oil used to fuel some of Monaco's buses (rapeseed). The government gives residents up to a 30 percent rebate on the purchase of alternative energy vehicles.

But there remains the question of an heir, complicated now by his son, Alexandre, who will eventually inherit a healthy portion of the prince's $2 billion fortune. Prince Albert acknowledged paternity in July and has installed the mother and child in a villa in nearby Villefranche on the French Riviera.

He said he had seen Alexandre only once, briefly, since the story became public, "because of his mother's attitude toward me."

"It's not a very pleasant situation," he said. "My only concern now is the well-being of the kid."

He fumbles when discussing the possibility of children, noting there are other women who have made similar claims. "I don't know of any others that could be true," he said. He denied he had paid money to Tamara Rotolo, a California woman who claimed she had a daughter, Jazmin, by the prince 13 years ago.

Ms. Rotolo made a paternity claim shortly after the child was born, he said, but after an American court dismissed the case, he thought the matter had gone away. Since the story of young Alexandre hit the press, though, he said she had contacted his lawyer again.

"Other people will jump on the bandwagon," he said, chalking it up to the large number of women he has known over the years and of being in the public eye.

As for Alexandre, he said there was no chance that the boy would ever be prince.

"He is not a possible successor," he said, citing Monaco's Constitution, which requires that the parents of heirs to the throne be married. "I don't think that will change."

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A link to an Article on the story. http://www.royalarchive.com/index.ph...d=670&Itemid=2

I made this thread due to everything that has been said regarding this issue.

SEE MY NEXT POST.

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 10:22 AM

Continuation
 
I supported him on it and felt it wrong for people to unjustly criticize him for something he hadn't done. I had also heard long ago the Palace did in fact deny the claims however the press kept pushing the issue. It was and Nicole admitted to it in an interview a reason she said she came forward instead of waiting as she was asked for.

If Albert had been Jazmin's father he had no reason at all over the last several months to not say he was. He did the right thing by Alexandre from the start. What I saw as sad in the above article is he has only seen his son once since all this due to Nicole's attitude towards him. Albert went above the required guidelines of being a responsible parent to care for his child. I looked at my own personal situation to use in this issue. I had to fight for every penny I got out of the legal father of my child. He stopped paying support before he was suppose to and refused to pay outstanding medical bills.

I honestly have true reason to bitter towards mine yet I still allowed my child's father to see his daughter even though it was breaking her heart and mine being ripped away as she was. He had his right regardless of the fact he refused to give me the name of the man it was confirmed by our daughter at age 16 what happened when she as 6. That should be easy to figure out.

Nicole gained support for Alexandre now Albert needs people to support his rights as a father wanting to be a Dad only the mother needs to change her attitude for the sake of the child. She got what she wanted now its time to give back Nicole to your son's Dad. I SAY ALLOW ALBERT TO BE A DAD YOU WANTED NICOLE FOR YOUR SON.

Albert did nothing to deserve any of what he got dished out to him by the press and in this Forum. I made an apology to him directly for peoples remarks here feeling it needed to be done. This also confirms in my opinion with the amount of people believing Tamara's claim that this reported pervert claims of what he has reportedly done groping, and chasing woman to the point of being worse then a cock roach are also fabricated lies. The woman who reportedly claimed he raped her years back they learned after bad press was mentally ill.

Tamara apparently needs to seek help and someone needs to tell the poor child the truth that Albert Grimaldi is not her father that she was just given his name.

It is my hope that the Moderators and Administrators allow this article and my statement remain in a thread by its self so that the information confirming his denial isn't swept under the rug as they say and forgotten about.

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 11:18 AM

If you view this link you will see part of the problem with how the press is misused to hurt people. http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/2005/07/22/1142336.html Half way down is what was said about Albert and this
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Aftermath: More popular than ever, Albert acceded to the throne last week. He is apparently set to admit fathering Grimaldi later this week.
The article was written July 22, 2005. It's my greatest hope that this issue will set an example of innocent until proven guilty. Don't put a man in front of the firing squad unless he is guilty.

valtorrez 09-10-2005 11:34 AM

Why is everyone so quick to Nicole the evil villian in this mess. All Albert stated was that her attitude toward him made it unpleasant. This does not mean she is being vindictive- it could be the exact opposite which is making him feel uncomfortable. She never stated anything bad about him in her story if anything she was expressing her feelings for him to openly. As I have said before, no one knows exactly what happened between the two of them- ONLY them so we should not take sides and judge.

CasiraghiTrio 09-10-2005 11:39 AM

I don't think anyone has Albert in front of a firing squad, LadyM. I appreciate your sympathy for him, but the "firing squad" idea might be a bit extreme. Even if the suggestion of him being the dad of Jazmin is true, which I believe is not true, but if it is, it's certainly not a crime to father a child. The only crime of his, imo, if it is true, is not admitting it, because that would be hurtful to the child in question.

However, as far as I can tell at present, it seems the criminal in this case is Tamara Rotolo for (probably, but of course, she's innocent until proven guilty) leading her daughter to believe what must surely be a fiction.

Nevertheless, what harm can be done from a simple DNA test? Why doesn't Albert make his life a bit simpler by arranging a DNA test to settle this matter once and for all? I think if for nothing else, he should do it for this little girl. Not for Tamara. No favors are due to her. But I think it would be a good gesture for the well-being of the little girl.

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by valtorrez
Why is everyone so quick to Nicole the evil villian in this mess. All Albert stated was that her attitude toward him made it unpleasant. This does not mean she is being vindictive- it could be the exact opposite which is making him feel uncomfortable. She never stated anything bad about him in her story if anything she was expressing her feelings for him to openly. As I have said before, no one knows exactly what happened between the two of them- ONLY them so we should not take sides and judge.

I don't honestly think I did say anything bad about her only support him to be the Dad she wanted him to be and see his son. If you took it that way then you misread my intention. This was really intented to set the record straight on Jazmin not another bickering thread over Nicole. If it starts I have no problem at all with shutting the thread down from comments.

dreed777 09-10-2005 11:50 AM

Her attitude probably isn't helped by him publicly referring to his child as "the kid". Maybe he didn't mean it to, but it sounds a little standoffish and distant. If he really wanted to see "the kid" he would deal with any amount of unpleasantness to be able to spend time with him. As always, this is just my opinion; however, I am in a situation where my husband had children from a previous marriage, and it was a horrible situation between him and his ex (who ran around on him) and extremely unpleasant and uncomfortable, but NOTHING could have ever kept him (or me once I was in the picture) from his children. And believe me, it was as unpleasant, nerve-wracking and uncomfortable as it gets. It's just a matter of priorities. (His kids are now grown and we have close wonderful relationships with them because of our determination ten years ago.) Like I said, just my opinion, not trying to start anything. :)

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio
I don't think anyone has Albert in front of a firing squad, LadyM. I appreciate your sympathy for him, but the "firing squad" idea might be a bit extreme. Even if the suggestion of him being the dad of Jazmin is true, which I believe is not true, but if it is, it's certainly not a crime to father a child. The only crime of his, imo, if it is true, is not admitting it, because that would be hurtful to the child in question.

However, as far as I can tell at present, it seems the criminal in this case is Tamara Rotolo for (probably, but of course, she's innocent until proven guilty) leading her daughter to believe what must surely be a fiction.

Nevertheless, what harm can be done from a simple DNA test? Why doesn't Albert make his life a bit simpler by arranging a DNA test to settle this matter once and for all? I think if for nothing else, he should do it for this little girl. Not for Tamara. No favors are due to her. But I think it would be a good gesture for the well-being of the little girl.

I put it that way due to the things that have been said in the past and they were that strong if not worse over this case. At the time of the case according to the information I have gathered in the past 6 years blood samples were given to the Palace by Tamara's own admission and the Palace did deny paternity. No one accepted it the reason being is to many said she looked like his side of the family. I made my statement on it. Sorry if anyone has a problem with how I expressed my feelings I found others far worse and I tried to use tack and as always remember I am a Lady in my opinions.

valtorrez 09-10-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine
I don't honestly think I did say anything bad about her only support him to be the Dad she wanted him to be and see his son. If you took it that way then you misread my intention. This was really intented to set the record straight on Jazmin not another bickering thread over Nicole. If it starts I have no problem at all with shutting the thread down from comments.

Maybe I interpreted what you said differently than you meant however, you are the one that mentioned Nicole's situation and how it pertained to your life. I just expressed my opinion. Why threaten to shut the thread just because someone has a comment different from yours- isn't this the purpose of the forum. There is no bickering- just a matter of opinions.

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valtorrez
Maybe I interpreted what you said differently than you meant however, you are the one that mentioned Nicole's situation and how it pertained to your life. I just expressed my opinion. Why threaten to shut the thread just because someone has a comment different from yours- isn't this the purpose of the forum. There is no bickering- just a matter of opinions.

Again you have misunderstood what I said. The thread on Alexandre and Nicole was shut down due to nastiness by Forum memebers towards each other and total disrespect. It was not my intention to get off on that issue again or get into an argument over it. I wanted the record set straight for Albert in a separate thread over his denial he fathered Jazmin. A Super Moderator has all ready looked in on us and sure many more will. There is no reason to go off on each other for our opinions and critize them. If someone makes an error I can understand correcting it. I'm sorry to me you are coming across with an attitude towards me for stating my opinion and feels as if you want to start an argument. There was no threat either.

lynda 09-10-2005 01:55 PM

The article posted was very informative. It’s nice to read something positive and refreshing regarding PA.



I do not have any opinions/comments at this time. This was a personal interview given by the prince, therefore, these are his own words and this is enough confirmation for me.

valtorrez 09-10-2005 02:04 PM

I went back and read my message to see how I was coming off as hateful towards someone I don't even know. I still don't see it- maybe I should change my wording or something. I know we need to stay on topic but I want to clarify that all I wrote was MY opinion about what you said. I never gave it a second thought as trying to criticize you or being nasty. Obviously you feel the way you feel about PA and I feel how I feel. We are just expressing opinions- for me this is not personal. I'm sorry if you feel I made it that way. This forum, in my opionion, would be boring if everyone had the same opinion on all the topics.

LadyMacAlpine 09-10-2005 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by valtorrez
I went back and read my message to see how I was coming off as hateful towards someone I don't even know. I still don't see it- maybe I should change my wording or something. I know we need to stay on topic but I want to clarify that all I wrote was MY opinion about what you said. I never gave it a second thought as trying to criticize you or being nasty. Obviously you feel the way you feel about PA and I feel how I feel. We are just expressing opinions- for me this is not personal. I'm sorry if you feel I made it that way. This forum, in my opionion, would be boring if everyone had the same opinion on all the topics.

You are correct and your opinion of Albert came through as to what you think of him on the Royal Blue Forums. I still honestly haven't figured out yet why people who clearly do not like a person bother to even waste their time voicing their opinions on message boards when there is so many other constructive things in life to do that will have a positive impact on society and our children. But then that is my personal opinion and why I have given back information to the Board that is positive or attempt to keep it and my opinions such as to not offend anyone. I recieved instruction from Gabriella our main Moderator some time ago to ignore some people on the Board. How about I place you on that list and we will call it a truce. You dislike Albert and I adore and admire him very much.


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