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Tina 08-18-2003 11:02 AM

General Discussion about Dutch Royal Residences
 
Edit Marengo: This thread can be used for the general discussion on Dutch royal palaces, castles, villa's, estates, churches etc. etc.

Henri M. 08-23-2007 06:58 AM

My guess where the royal family will live after the abdication of Queen Beatrix:

Amsterdam (province North Holland)

The Royal Palace - for representation by The King


The Hague (province South Holland)

Noordeinde Palace - as official residence to The King

Huis ten Bosch Palace - as private residence to The King

Mansion Noordeinde 66 - private mansion for long-stay guests to The King (the Zorreguietas, the Von Amsbergs, etc.)


Apeldoorn (province Guelders)

Het Loo Palace - for representation by The King

Castle Het Oude Loo - as weekend retreat to The King

Het Nieuwe Loo Estate - as private residence to HRH Princess Margriet

Crown Domains Het Loo - nature reserve in usufruct by The King


Baarn (province Utrecht)

Soestdijk Palace - remains out of use by the royal family, I expect

Drakensteyn Estate - as private residence to HRH Princess Beatrix


Wassenaar (province South Holland)

Royal Estate De Horsten - as private residence to HRH Prince Constantijn


Tavarnelle val di Pesa (Tuscany, Italy)

Rocco dei Dragoni - mediaeval Tuscan olive-plantation farmhouse, as vacation retreat by The King

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Marengo 08-23-2007 07:13 AM

I almost have the same thoughts about the list, though I don't think Beatrix will leave her Rocco di Dragoni anytime soon.

A real pity that Soestdijk will be lost, but helas. It is extremely unlikely that Willem-Alexander will be living there.

I was wondering about Villa Eikenhorst too, did the Prince buy it from his aunt Christina? If he did, and it is his private property, I do not expect Constantijn and Laurentien to live there. Maybe they will have a new house built on Drakensteyn estate? Like Princess Margriet did at het Loo.

Henri M. 08-23-2007 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 656366)
I almost have the same thoughts about the list, though I don't think Beatrix will leave her Rocco di Dragoni anytime soon.

A real pity that Soestdijk will be lost, but helas. It is extremely unlikely that Willem-Alexander will be living there.

I was wondering about Villa Eikenhorst too, did the Prince buy it from his aunt Christina? If he did, and it is his private property, I do not expect Constantijn and Laurentien to live there. Maybe they will have a new house built on Drakensteyn estate? Like Princess Margriet did at het Loo.



The King can grant his youngest brother Prince Constantijn the villa, which is already 'terror proof' secured. When King Willem IV Alexander will reside on Huis ten Bosch Palace, the heavily secured villa on the Royal Domain De Horsten in nearby Wassenaar will not have much use for him,

As Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien will become active members of the Royal House, what is more logical to let them live in the already modernized, secured and guarded villa on that fantastic old nature reserve in the middle of one of Europe's most densely populated regions?

I agree on Soestdijk Palace. Maybe it will follow Amsterdam and Apeldoorn: mainly a museal function, but it can always be used by the royal family, when needed?

susan alicia 08-23-2007 09:26 AM

no more new houses please esp. because they seem to favour the model "southfork" and cut a load of trees in the process.

It must be heaven to be able to live in Drakesteyn, let them go live there.

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 656366)
I almost have the same thoughts about the list, though I don't think Beatrix will leave her Rocco di Dragoni anytime soon.

A real pity that Soestdijk will be lost, but helas. It is extremely unlikely that Willem-Alexander will be living there.

I was wondering about Villa Eikenhorst too, did the Prince buy it from his aunt Christina? If he did, and it is his private property, I do not expect Constantijn and Laurentien to live there. Maybe they will have a new house built on Drakensteyn estate? Like Princess Margriet did at het Loo.


Henri M. 08-23-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by susan alicia (Post 656410)
no more new houses please esp. because they seem to favour the model "southfork" and cut a load of trees in the process.

It must be heaven to be able to live in Drakesteyn, let them go live there.

Southfork? Come on.
Villa Eikenhorst has quite improved since Princess Christina has left it. The windows and doors have changed inot a more authenitic look. The Prince of Orange has made a great, comfortable and nice looking villa from it.

Prince Friso lives in Kensington (London) if I'm right and Prince Constantijn in a sort of Jugendstil style mansion in Brussels. None of both looks like Dallas or Dynasty.

The trees were cut down for the gigantic fence and the barracks and garages for the Royal Marechaussee guards. Also wires and cables were laid into the ground for the cameras and detectors. And there seems to be a need for a few metres of 'free view' on the fence, for the security.

Exactly the same sort of provisions are made right now around Drakensteyn Estate. Also there villagers have protested against the draconic building activities and the cutting of trees. It is not the Oranges themselves. It is ordered by Government on advice of the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and after consultation of the Royal- and Diplomatic Protection Service, the Royal Marechaussee and the Corps National Police Services.

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susan alicia 08-23-2007 10:14 AM

when christina built her villa the world was a different place security wise and no such buildings would have been necessary if she had chosen to live elsewhere, in one of the many country houses begging to be restored.

I have no objection to how friso and constantijn live

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Originally Posted by Henri M. (Post 656422)
Southfork? Come on.
Villa Eikenhorst has quite improved since Princess Christina has left it. The windows and doors have changed inot a more authenitic look. The Prince of Orange has made a great, comfortable and nice looking villa from it.

Prince Friso lives in Kensington (London) if I'm right and Prince Constantijn in a sort of Jugendstil style mansion in Brussels. None of both looks like Dallas or Dynasty.

The trees were cut down for the gigantic fence and the barracks and garages for the Royal Marechaussee guards. Also wires and cables were laid into the ground for the cameras and detectors. And there seems to be a need for a few metres of 'free view' on the fence, for the security.

Exactly the same sort of provisions are made right now around Drakensteyn Estate. Also there villagers have protested against the draconic building activities and the cutting of trees. It is not the Oranges themselves. It is ordered by Government on advice of the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and after consultation of the Royal- and Diplomatic Protection Service, the Royal Marechaussee and the Corps National Police Services.

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Henri M. 08-23-2007 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by susan alicia (Post 656425)
when christina built her villa the world was a different place security wise and no such buildings would have been necessary if she had chosen to live elsewhere, in one of the many country houses begging to be restored.

I have no objection to how friso and constantijn live

You mean in one of the many castles or so?

Great idea. But the Royal Estate De Horsten and Drakensteyn Estate are private properties of the Queen. The first one even for almost 175 years. Somewhere it is weird to buy and upkeep and modernize a country estate while there already is a great lavish green estate, lavishly located in a nature reserve in the densely polulated city cluster Utrecht - Amsterdam - The Hague - Rotterdam.

I would have preferred it to see The Prince of Orange living on one of those fantastic castles in Limburg, but tja....

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susan alicia 08-23-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Henri M. (Post 656442)
Quote:

You mean in one of the many castles or so?

Great idea. But the Royal Estate De Horsten and Drakensteyn Estate are private properties of the Queen. The first one even for almost 175 years. Somewhere it is weird to buy and upkeep and modernize a country estate while there already is a great lavish green estate, lavishly located in a nature reserve in the densely polulated city cluster Utrecht - Amsterdam - The Hague - Rotterdam.

I would have preferred it to see The Prince of Orange living on one of those fantastic castles in Limburg, but tja....

:flowers:

I am sorry might be a bit dense but I do not understand what you mean. Just to be clear I meant that they buy a non royal country house, which otherwise would become a hotel or whatever, in the cluster of utrecht adam the hague and rdam. I do not see anything weird about it.

Marengo 08-27-2007 07:33 PM

Well, Beatrix did that with Drakensteyn. I would hope that Constantijn will do the same when he settles here with his family, but I donīt expect that he can afford to by an estate, country house and the restauration of it all. It is more likely that he will settle down on one of the estates of the family, so de Horsten, Drakensteyn or in Apeldoorn.

If he will live in the Eikenhorst that would create a problem where to settle Amalia in the far future, though I donīt expect they plan these things 30 years ahead of course.

Henri M. 08-28-2007 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 658214)
Well, Beatrix did that with Drakensteyn. I would hope that Constantijn will do the same when he settles here with his family, but I donīt expect that he can afford to by an estate, country house and the restauration of it all. It is more likely that he will settle down on one of the estates of the family, so de Horsten, Drakensteyn or in Apeldoorn.

If he will live in the Eikenhorst that would create a problem where to settle Amalia in the far future, though I donīt expect they plan these things 30 years ahead of course.

I wish Her Majesty a long and happy life -of course- but it will be most likely in her twenties that Princess Catharina-Amalia will leave the parental nest. At that time the Queen is way in her nineties. Most likely the Princess of Orange can opt for Noordeinde 66, for het Nieuwe Loo (the present house of Princess Margriet), Castle Het Oude Loo, Drakensteyn Estate, Villa Eikenhorst on De Horsten Estate, etc....

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Marengo 08-28-2007 07:21 AM

Well, I am still hoping one of them would get a nice estate in Zeeland, Frisia or Limbourg, all very pretty provinces. But I donīt think it is likely that an heir will live too far away from the Hague in the future, I expect even Apeldoorn will be considered too far, as is Soestdijk Palace for WA and Maxima.

QUEENECE29 01-16-2009 12:00 PM

Huis ten Bosch Palace
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