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Mandy 07-27-2005 12:53 AM

Queen Saleha Current Events 1: July 2005-
 
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La la 07-27-2005 11:04 AM

Is her title Queen Saleha or Sultana (or something else)?

alfie 07-30-2005 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by La la
Is her title Queen Saleha or Sultana (or something else)?

Yes! her title is Her Majesty Queen or in the malay language in Brunei - Her Majesty Raja Isteri

Humera 07-31-2005 11:50 PM

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Her Majesty, Crown Prince in farewell audienceJuly 25 - Her Majesty Raja Isteri Pengiran Anak Hajah Saleha yesterday granted farewell audiences to the spouses of three foreign envoys. The audiences took place at the Istana Nurul Iman.
http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/tue/jul26h11.htm

Humera 08-08-2005 10:53 PM

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Royal audience to Malaysian delegates

http://www.brunei-online.com/sunday/news/aug7h15.htm

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Humera 08-18-2005 01:35 AM

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Strong family, stronger nation

The strength of family institution plays a significant role in fostering and safeguarding the solidarity and harmony of all levels of the society, especially the younger generation.
Her Majesty Raja Isteri Pengiran Anak Hajah Saleha said this in a titah during the launch of the Domestic Science Exhibition 2005 and prize presentation ceremony, held yesterday in conjunction with His Majesty the Sultan and Yang Di-Pertuan of Brunei Darussalam's 59th birthday celebration.
.........Her Majesty was accompanied to the ceremony by HRH Pg Anak Isteri Pg Anak Hjh Zariah, HRH Princess Hjh Majeedah Nuurul Bulqiah, HRH Princess Hjh Hafizah Sururul Bulqiah, and HRH Princess Hjh Amal Umi Kalthum Al-Islam
http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/mon/aug15h1.htm

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Humera 08-18-2005 01:37 AM

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more pictures...

Humera 08-18-2005 01:39 AM

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and finally..

BOLK 08-21-2005 02:34 AM

She look sooo calm, cheerful as usual, at least we can see that or she manage to hide the sorrow ...... she must be very strong person, especially being a figure known to public, and we, follow every foot steps of her's and what happening in the family. With her husband new marriage, I really wonder how she kept herself that way, not easy though ..... love and admire U Q.Saleha!

Humera 08-21-2005 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLK
She look sooo calm, cheerful as usual, at least we can see that or she manage to hide the sorrow ...... she must be very strong person, especially being a figure known to public, and we, follow every foot steps of her's and what happening in the family. With her husband new marriage, I really wonder how she kept herself that way, not easy though ..... love and admire U Q.Saleha!

you know I agree. I think its such an insult to a woman like Queen Saleha who has been by her husband's side and been his dutiful Queen for decades. And the sultan doesnt really seem to care about her feelings. First marrying and then divorcing Hjh Mariam and now marrying a woman who's younger than many of his own daughters.
I hope the Crown Prince will not turn out like his father, his mother's treatment at the hands of his dad should be enough to teach him a lesson not to do the same thing to his lovely wife Sarah.
Queen Saleha always comes across to me as a very strong woman. I hope she wont be too unhappy.

MoonlightRhapsody 08-21-2005 02:49 AM

How does their dynamics change then? With a second wife to contend with, how does her role as first wife and Queen change? What would be the role of a second wife?

I'm not looking down at any group, but in my opinion, a man who marries more than one woman is disrespectful and ego-fueled.

Humera 08-21-2005 03:03 AM

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How does their dynamics change then? With a second wife to contend with, how does her role as first wife and Queen change? What would be the role of a second wife?

I'm not looking down at any group, but in my opinion, a man who marries more than one woman is disrespectful and ego-fueled.

you're not the only one with this opinion.
I think its very disrespectful to Queen Saleha and her kids. As for marrying more than one woman at once, the sultan seems to be the exception both in the royal family and in brunei in general. I'd agree that this act reflects badly on him and makes him out to be the indulgent sort.
The Queen is the first lady in the family anyway and will remain so despite this marriage. Atleast we can be thankful that the Sultan knows where precedence is due. In all the pictures I've seen of the Sultan's ex-wife Mariam at official events, Queen Saleha was always present with her and took precendence over her. So Im pretty sure thats how it'll work now.

jennyfer 08-21-2005 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~
you're not the only one with this opinion.
I think its very disrespectful to Queen Saleha and her kids. As for marrying more than one woman at once, the sultan seems to be the exception both in the royal family and in brunei in general. I'd agree that this act reflects badly on him and makes him out to be the indulgent sort.
The Queen is the first lady in the family anyway and will remain so despite this marriage. Atleast we can be thankful that the Sultan knows where precedence is due. In all the pictures I've seen of the Sultan's ex-wife Mariam at official events, Queen Saleha was always present with her and took precendence over her. So Im pretty sure thats how it'll work now.

i dont think it'll work that way. she will remain title-less. and i dont think she will make a royal appearance.

Humera 08-21-2005 03:07 AM

so she wont be a princess like Hjh Mariam? that sounds strange but I think its appropriate. I'd be happy with that.

Saba 08-21-2005 04:09 AM

I doubt if she the first wife feels sorrow, she is his cousin whom he married when they were young. Besides, there was another wife for over 20 years until recently. The first wife may very well have encouraged taking a second wife.

His first wife probably knows him better than anyone and her love extends to his happiness, just as when he had a second wife for over 20 years. Whatever makes him happy should make her happy, this arrangement is nothing new for any of them, except perhaps the new wife. Sultan and his first wife are seldom seen together except at family functions. I notice he and all of his children participate in a lot of physical activities, without his first wife.

What he has done is not illegal. I am happy for the entire family and wish them all well.

jennyfer 08-21-2005 04:11 AM

i doubt she'll be a princess like hjh Mariam. unless...His Majesty wants it like that. but it will detoriate the views of his rakyat (his people) who have loved him unconditionally. i m sure most of them feel betrayed by this hidden knowledge. and will side with the Queen. the first time HM got married to hjh Mariam, rumours had it that the Queen cried her heart out. it is no doubt that she will cry again. though she is a courageous queen whom i admire deeply, no woman wants to share her husband, especially when she has no choice to choose.

Humera 08-21-2005 04:56 AM

I agree completely jennyfer.
The sultan has tremendous wealth, he has a wife, he has lots of healthy kids.
What more could he want.
The way he has behaved surprising to me. I wont even get into the debate over the very strict conditions required for making polygamy "possible"
None of those requirements exist in this case.
I think this whole thing will make people love Queen Saleha even more.

BOLK 08-21-2005 07:39 AM

I think that's very uncalled for, whether he has done that before, on any occassion, the fact that he's taking a new one must hit the wife badly. I don't see any justification to the fact that they were married for a long time, that they were cousin, and marry at early age, remove her feeling towards the husband.????? why would she wants to encourage him to take another wife??? he had enough children, 10 of them, including 4 boys, for heir matter, ...
........... I don't see any reason in your statement, or at least the grounds was unjustifiable....sorry

Humera 08-21-2005 10:09 PM

yes I never believe people who suggest that the first wife encouraged something like this or had no objections. NO woman would ever give into her husband in such a situation willingly. As for the Queen, i bet she knows that her husband will do whatever he pleases anyway.

polop 08-21-2005 10:19 PM

I just wish the Queen best of luck.I know it sounds "cheesy" but she deserves better than him.;) :)


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