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LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:07 PM

Queen Sonja's family
 
HER MOTHER:
Dagny Ulrichsen was born on 25 may 1898 in Skien. She was daugther of Johan Christian Ulrichsen and Marie Bertine Hansen. Dagny Ulrichsen marry Karl August Haraldsen in 1920 on Skien. Dagny Ulrichsen die on october 15, 1994 in Oslo, she was 96year.

HER FATHER:
Karl August Haraldsen was born in 1889.He marry Dagny Ulrichsen, the daugther of Johan Christian Ulrichsen and Marie Bertine Hansen, in 1920 on Skien.Karl August Haraldsen died in 1959.

HER SIBLINGS:
Haakon Haraldsen:
Haakon Haraldsen was born in 1921. He was son of Karl August Haraldsen and Dagny Ulrichsen. His wifes name i think is Lisbeth. His son are Karl Otto Haraldsen. And his grandaugther is Pia Haraldsen and his grandsons is Carl William and Haakon Haraldsen.

Gry Haraldsen:
Gry Haraldsen was born in 1924. She was daugther of Karl August Haraldsen and Dagny Ulrichsen. She has a son named Dag. It has been told that she tok her one life, that she is not frinds with Sonja and she die in the 70.. Have anyone more info? I wod love to hear more about Gry!

Karl Herman Haraldsen:
Karl Herman Haraldsen was born in 1929. He was son of son of Karl August Haraldsen og Dagny Ulrichsen. Karl Herman Haraldsen died in 1936 on the Oslofjord.

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:11 PM

Sonjas mother and King Olav in Sonja and Haralds wedding:
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/7...sts20gd.th.jpg http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/3...sts11yv.th.jpg
She is next to Harald:
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/75/harald23nh.th.jpg

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:13 PM

More pictures of Dagny in Harald and Sonjas wedding:
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/4...els12uk.th.jpg http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/693/new187vf.th.jpg

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:41 PM

Sonjas brothers granson, Carl William:
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594..._Haraldsen.JPG

Carl Wiliams brother Haakon(i think its his brother on the pics)
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594...Masters_03.JPG

from http://www.n3sport.no/

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:43 PM

Sonjas brothers son Karl Otto with his son Haakon:
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594...smestereXX.JPG

from http://www.n3sport.no/

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:44 PM

Sonjas brother, Haakons grandson Haakon:
http://www.oslotenniskrets.no/Bilder...rHalleru14.jpg

from http://www.n3sport.no/

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaMinka
Sonjas brother, Haakons grandson Haakon:
http://www.oslotenniskrets.no/Bilder...rHalleru14.jpg

More of Haakon:
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594...Masters_03.JPG
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594...server_ute.JPG
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594...HaakonNM14.JPG
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594...ten_effekt.JPG
http://www.n3sport.no/Downloads/6594..._Haraldsen.jpg
http://www.oslotenniskrets.no/Bilder...ng%20GDu16.JPG

from http://www.n3sport.no/

LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:50 PM

a article about Haakon Haraldsen (jr.)
Haakon Haraldsen vant i Svelvik

Snarøyas lovende junior hadde med seg sin fortsatt mer kjente trener Christian Ruud til å bakke seg opp i single og kjempe ned motstanderne i double.

Haraldsen kjempet seg greit frem til finale hvor han også fikk tøffest motstand i form av Morten Sivertsen fra Jar. 6/2 6/4 ble finaleresultatet og seier i RT-7 turneringen til Haraldsen.

Tilsammen 26 spillere var påmeldt i singleklassen hvor Odd Erik Helgesen fra Tønsberg var toppseedet. Helgesen røk ut i semifinalen mott Haraldsen med 6/3 6/1.

I double gjorde Haraldsen entré med Christian Ruud. En populær attraksjon i Svelvik denne helgen som også gjorde at Drammens Tidende dekket doublefinalen med en helsiden. Uvanlig god pressedekning av en norsk doublefinale. (Artikkelen er det også referert til tidligere her på tennisen.no)

Sammen spilte Snarøya-paret to kamper. I Semifinalen tapte Sivertsen og Alexander Engh 6/2 6/1 mot regjerende Norgesmestere i double. Bård Bakken og Odd Erik Helgesen klarte ikke å gi noe bedre motstand i finalen og tapte 6/1 6/0.


LaMinka 07-21-2005 05:53 PM

Pia(you know ho she is):
http://shopaholic.tv3.no/uploads/pag..._image_125.jpg
http://shopaholic.tv3.no/index.phtml...030a1b7e81d050
http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1099285972630_38.jpg

Pia with Fredrik of Denmark:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2002...I_6fu26kse.jpg

from Dangbladet, Shopaholic and VG

Alexandria 07-21-2005 08:49 PM

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IslandDweller 08-23-2005 08:40 PM

I've asked this before on other forums, but either noone knows or noone's interested:)

I've always tried to get a sense of Queen Sonja's background, but with very little success. I know that Norway has a small population and that Sonja grew up when the country was recovering from the war, but I also know that there is a band of old families and families that were titled until Norway did away with titles in the first decade of the 20th century. So there must have been something like a polite society. Would the Haraldsen's have been part of this?

I know that they owned some sort of clothing store, that Harald and Sonja met at a party held by the very rich Johan Sternerson, that Sonja's brother built the apartment building near the palace that her mother lived in, and that the NRF used to holiday at a ski home inherited from Sonja's family. Sonja grew up in Vinderen, which I've heard described as a rather quiet section of Oslo, though I don't know if it's a particularly fashionable or affluent area. There are some things that would indicate her background is quite cushy, and others that indicate it isn't particularly top-drawer. It's been reported that she worked in a pub in England while perfecting her English in her student days; and then the Ecole Professionelle des Jeunes Filles she attended in Lausanne doesn't exactly sound like a finishing school.

My sense is that she comes from a comfortably middle class background, and that it would have been possible for Harald to have taken a Norwegian bride from a more distinguished one. I wonder, for instance, if he would have had an easier time getting permission to marry a Wedel Jarlsberg? (None of this is to say that I think he SHOULD have taken a more upper class girl).

If anyone knows anything more about the Haraldsens, I would very much appreciate having it passed along. It's always been extremely difficult to learn more about them. Ditto the Ferner and Lorenzen families. It's easy to discover that the Hoiby and Behn families, on the other hand, are definitely pretty ordinary, run-of-the-mill working folk.

norwegianne 08-24-2005 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian_Ahern
I've asked this before on other forums, but either noone knows or noone's interested:)

I'll try to answer it as best I can. I'm currently writing Sonja's profile for August, for our 1905-2005 project. (It's a bit late due to computer trouble...)

Quote:

I've always tried to get a sense of Queen Sonja's background, but with very little success. I know that Norway has a small population and that Sonja grew up when the country was recovering from the war, but I also know that there is a band of old families and families that were titled until Norway did away with titles in the first decade of the 20th century. So there must have been something like a polite society. Would the Haraldsen's have been part of this?
No, they wouldn't. In the book Sonja, Norges Kronprinsesse, if you can get to that, there is a brief retelling of Sonja's family history. I also know that around the wedding someone did a family chart. Sonja's apparently related to the first Norwegian king, Harald Fairhair, but so are many other people as well.

The titles disappeared in the earlier than that. (I don't recall the exact year now, and am on a public computer..., I'll try to find out for later.)

Quote:

I know that they owned some sort of clothing store, that Harald and Sonja met at a party held by the very rich Johan Sternerson, that Sonja's brother built the apartment building near the palace that her mother lived in, and that the NRF used to holiday at a ski home inherited from Sonja's family. Sonja grew up in Vinderen, which I've heard described as a rather quiet section of Oslo, though I don't know if it's a particularly fashionable or affluent area. There are some things that would indicate her background is quite cushy, and others that indicate it isn't particularly top-drawer. It's been reported that she worked in a pub in England while perfecting her English in her student days; and then the Ecole Professionelle des Jeunes Filles she attended in Lausanne doesn't exactly sound like a finishing school.
The school she attended in Switzerland was a school to get a degree in clothing design/sewing. No finishing school.

Most Norwegian families, especially in the middle areas of income and above, own a cabin in the mountains. These cabins often sounds more fantastic than they truly are. Ski home would probably be exaggerating it. Sonja's background is what most other people, other than Norwegians who claim that there are no classes, would call middle class/upper middle class, seeing as they owned a store... No more, no less.

Quote:

My sense is that she comes from a comfortably middle class background, and that it would have been possible for Harald to have taken a Norwegian bride from a more distinguished one. I wonder, for instance, if he would have had an easier time getting permission to marry a Wedel Jarlsberg? (None of this is to say that I think he SHOULD have taken a more upper class girl).

If anyone knows anything more about the Haraldsens, I would very much appreciate having it passed along. It's always been extremely difficult to learn more about them. Ditto the Ferner and Lorenzen families. It's easy to discover that the Hoiby and Behn families, on the other hand, are definitely pretty ordinary, run-of-the-mill working folk.
The only thing more acceptable at the time, would have been for him to marry someone else with royal blood, I think. It was what everybody expected.

I'd say the reason for your trouble in finding more about the Haraldsens/Ferners/Lorentzens is that it's all pretty far in the past, and the families knew how to keep their mouths shut. (Unlike others... *cough*Sven*cough*...) There might be more, but go 50-60 years into the past, and it is more difficult to find.

nat127 08-24-2005 07:04 AM

Why you do not put a biography with photos of Sonja Haraldsen. He would be interesting to know but things of its biography

norwegianne 08-24-2005 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nat127
Why you do not put a biography with photos of Sonja Haraldsen. He would be interesting to know but things of its biography

It's in progress, though due to computer problems... a bit late. ;)

IslandDweller 08-24-2005 10:35 AM

Thank you so much Norwegianne! It's all pretty much what I figured, but it's nicer to hear from someone closer to the source (i.e. the Scandivian press). Thanks for taking the trouble. I look forward to the profile.:)

nat127 08-25-2005 07:13 AM

sonja
 
pardon my insistence, would like to know where I can find in Internet photos of Sonja Haraldsen when younger. Thanks.

Her_Majesty 08-06-2006 01:50 PM

Are there pictures of Sonja's brother and sister? :ermm:
I think I never saw any of them! :neutral:

norwegianne 08-06-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty
Are there pictures of Sonja's brother and sister? :ermm:
I think I never saw any of them! :neutral:

I have http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...0something.jpg that I scanned from the book "Sonja Norges kronprinsesse" for the 1905-2005 Norwegian Monarchy project.

Her_Majesty 08-06-2006 04:59 PM

Thanks for posting the picture, Norwegianne! :rolleyes:
Are there any pictures of them when they were older?
Are there pictures of them attending the wedding of Harald and Sonja??

Her_Majesty 09-19-2006 04:14 PM

Family Portrait with Dagny Haraldsen (right) on Haakon's confirmation

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3964/cabbm2kamc9.jpg
Polfoto


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