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rchainho 07-15-2005 03:18 PM

Age To Be A Monarch
 
hi:

I 'm reading a book about Juan carlo's life and its says that the constitution has a law of 1947 that is written that the king of spain has to be 30 years old.
Do you know the age to be a king/queen in other countries?
thanks, maria

norwegianne 07-15-2005 04:18 PM

In Norway the King/Queen has to be off age, ergo 18, to reign, but there aren't any other rules than that in regards to his/her age.

GrandDuchess 07-15-2005 04:47 PM

I think it's 18 in Sweden as well, at that age the members of the Royal Family (the royal children for ex) can stand in for the King if necessary at any time.

StoneCold 07-15-2005 08:30 PM

The Monarch in the United Kingdom needs to be 18 or older if not then a Regent is named to do all the Royal Duties

rchainho 07-16-2005 10:39 AM

thanks to all for the informations.

norwegianne 10-07-2005 04:54 PM

I read Hello's profile on Albert and Philippe and it was said that Philippe was felt to be too young and inexperienced at the time of Baudoin's death to be the king - was this rooted in some law? Granted, Albert were before him in line...

Marengo 10-07-2005 04:59 PM

No, just rooted on speculation in the press if Albert would renounce his rights in favour of his son or not.

norwegianne 10-07-2005 05:00 PM

Ah, thanks.

ysbel 10-07-2005 05:52 PM

Isn't 18 a bit too young?

galuhcandrakirana 10-08-2005 02:48 AM

I think age of 18 is too young to have a king'/queen' duty, but he/she will have loads of help from other member of royal family and Royal courtier. I just feel sorry if he/she has to loose most of his/her youth "fun" time because of doing King'/queen' duty.

Emilia 10-08-2005 09:16 AM

In Belgium , the crownprince(princess) has to be 18 years before he/she can become king or queen . King Boudewijn became king when he was 18 . Ofcourse , this is to young , but legal .Until he was 18 , Prince Karel ( I think it was his uncle ) was regent of Belgium . Because Boudewijn and Fabiola didn't have children , Phillip became crownprince. But nobody expected the death of the King so early , and Phillip wasn't really ready do become King , so Albert took the place of his brother . In the past , all the man stayed kings until their death ( expect for Leopold the third ) . But I don't think Albert will do this.About 5 or 10 years , Phillip will be King , I think . Then he will be 50/55 year old .

Jackswife 10-08-2005 10:17 AM

Constantine of Greece was not quite 24 when he became King (and Anne-Marie became Queen of Greece at 18 later that same year :eek: !!!!) It's such an enormous responsibility being a monarch that it would seem likely that there are age limits. I did not know that about the Spanish regulation so thank you for sharing that. Very interesting.

magnik 10-08-2005 11:12 AM

How it is now?
- If ruler die and his/her heir/heiress apparent hasn't got 18years yet?
- Isn't this person a king/queen now, but with someone as a regent until the new ruler will have 18 (like it was with queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands or king Peter II of Yougoslavie)?

ysbel 10-08-2005 11:45 AM

The 18 year old age limit dates from a time when people grew up faster and died younger. I think the last British monarch to successfully take over the throne at 18 was Henry VIII. But the generals and statesmen running the country were all young too.

Before him Edward III was crowned as a child but he assumed the powers at 18. However, at 18, he had already led the English forces in battle several times. That was what was needed at that time for a King to gain respect of his subjects and rule effectively.

18 year olds today are not in the same league.

Feberin 10-11-2005 02:19 AM

I'm not sure about that I think 18 year old royals who are in line for the throne may be more mature then the average kid.

galuhcandrakirana 10-11-2005 03:09 AM

I don't know for sure if they are more mature than the other who in same age naturaly, but I am sure he/she has been prepared for Cp/CPs role (king/queen to be) since very early age...that makes them different with other teenage who mostly still are not sure (confuse) what are they going to do for their future career.

BeatrixFan 10-11-2005 10:00 AM

Re;
 
It depends on the individual I think. But young Kings and Queens cant be ready at a young age - as was proved with King Michael of Romania in his early reign. He was ousted in a very very unfair manner but to make him King at 5 years old? Ridiculous.

lashinka2002 10-11-2005 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Feberin
I'm not sure about that I think 18 year old royals who are in line for the throne may be more mature then the average kid.

I don't know if they are necessarily more mature than the average kid but certainly they have more of a higher education that may give them the tools to seem more mature to the public eye when infact they may not be.

norwegianne 10-11-2005 11:18 AM

As long as 18 year olds are deemed mature enough to vote in general elections, and decide who runs the country, and old enough to be drafted into the military - then they're certainly old enough to act as head of state. Whether it is good for them and their potential family, is another matter.

BeatrixFan 10-11-2005 11:19 AM

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I agree LaShinka. You can bet your life that Elizabeth, Margrethe and Beatrix all gave their sons waving lessons and taught them the tricks of the trade from a young age.

betina 10-11-2005 11:48 AM

Also in Denmark they have to be 18 years old to "rule"

RoyalKnottie 02-13-2007 01:59 PM

Well 18 is young but if a child is next in line then he or she should be observed. I think the a regent is a good idea but then the problem arises as to what is an old enough age to assume power.

Henri M. 02-13-2007 02:34 PM

See the respective constitutions
 
If you want to know the age or other regulations, just check the constitution. For an example, the Netherlands constitution says:

Article 33
The King shall not exercise the royal prerogative before attaining the age of eighteen.

Article 34
The guardianship of a King who is a minor shall be regulated by Act. The two Chambers of the States-General shall meet in joint assembly to consider and decide upon the matter.

On the moment there is no Act for the guardianship of a King because the Heir-Apparent is no minor. Before 1985 there was an Act to appoint a guardian over the King:

Article 1
1. During the period that the Heir-Apparent, born in the marriage of Us, Beatrix, with His Royal Highness Claus Georg Willem Otto Frederik Geert Prince of the Netherlands, Jonkheer van Amsberg, has become King by hereditary succession and can not exercise the royal prerogative because of not having attained the age of consent conform the Constitution, Our Consort aforementioned will act as Regent of the Kingdom,
and,
will Our Consort aforementioned have deceased before this period, Her Royal Highness Margriet Francisca Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau, Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld will act as Regentess of the Kingdom.

Article 2
Might Our Consort beforementioned decease or abdicate the Regency or become unable to fulfill the Regency, Our Consort beforementioned will be succeeded by Her Royal Highness Margriet Francisca Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau, Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld as Regentess of the Kingdom.

Next Star 04-23-2007 03:02 PM

That is true in most monarchies the age of the head of state who is king or queen must be 18 when they inherit the throne. That is very young to me but that is the law.

Her_Majesty 04-23-2007 04:58 PM

Well, I think in most Monarchies the Kings /Queens have to be 18 years (or older of course) to rule the country.
I think it's because "18" is a very fixed "mark" in the European Society. When you are 18 you are an "adult".
So, you can vote, drive a car ,...well and a Heir to the Throne can become a King :lol: .


What happenes if a King dies and the Heir to the Throne isn't 18 yet?
Would his wife "rule" the country until her Son/daughter is able to be King/Queen or would one of the King's siblings be the "ruler" for this period? (I guess so...)

hibou 04-23-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty
Well, I think in most Monarchies the Kings /Queens have to be 18 years (or older of course) to rule the country.
I think it's because "18" is a very fixed "mark" in the European Society. When you are 18 you are an "adult".
So, you can vote, drive a car ,...well and a Heir to the Throne can become a King :lol: .


What happenes if a King dies and the Heir to the Throne isn't 18 yet?
Would his wife "rule" the country until her Son/daughter is able to be King/Queen or would one of the King's siblings be the "ruler" for this period? (I guess so...)

The title is called Regent. In theory, a Regent is a trusted member of the family or Advisor of the late King/Queen to run things until the child reached 18. For example: If Prince Albert of Monaco had an heir to the throne who was under 18, and he died, there will be something in place to designate a Regent. In this case most likely Caroline. But each country has it's own set of rules to determine this.

Royal Fan 04-23-2007 06:32 PM

Whos some of the Yougest Monarchs Europe has had

Henri M. 04-23-2007 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fan
Whos some of the Yougest Monarchs Europe has had

In recent history one of the youngest Sovereigns was Her Majesty Wilhelmina Helena Paulina Maria by the grace of God Queen of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau (1880-1962), the grandmother of the present Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands.

In 1890 Wilhelmina became Queen of the Netherlands at the age of 10 and abdicated in 1948 at the age of 68, being Sovereign for 58 years.

See picture of Wilhelmina (76), Juliana (47) and Beatrix (18) together (banquet for Princess Beatrix' 18th birthday in 1956).

ZandraRae 04-23-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henri M.
In recent history one of the youngest Sovereigns was Her Majesty Wilhelmina Helena Paulina Maria by the grace of God Queen of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau (1880-1962), the grandmother of the present Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands.

In 1890 Wilhelmina became Queen of the Netherlands at the age of 10 and abdicated in 1948 at the age of 68, being Sovereign for 58 years.

See picture of Wilhelmina (76), Juliana (47) and Beatrix (18) together (banquet for Princess Beatrix' 18th birthday in 1956).

A priceless picture to be sure, Henri! I remember reading somewhere that someone else, I believe her mother made the decisions until Wilhelmina became of age, that is 18. Is this right?:flowers:

Alison20 04-23-2007 08:34 PM

Queen Victoria was the heir to her uncle, King William IV, from a very young age, as his children all died in infancy and Victoria's father had died when she was a baby. King William did not like the future Queen's widowed mother, the Duchess of Kent, who was the obvious choice as Regent if William died before Victoria was 18. He vowed that he would live until Victoria was of age, and despite his age and ill health he did so, dying about 2 weeks after her 18th birthday. Interestingly, Victoria assumed all the reins of power, and did not let her mother assist her in any way. She did, however, rely greatly on the advice of her Prime Ministers, one of whom was the great Duke of Wellington of Waterloo fame.

TLLK 04-23-2007 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henri M.
If you want to know the age or other regulations, just check the constitution. For an example, the Netherlands constitution says:

Article 33
The King shall not exercise the royal prerogative before attaining the age of eighteen.

Article 34
The guardianship of a King who is a minor shall be regulated by Act. The two Chambers of the States-General shall meet in joint assembly to consider and decide upon the matter.

On the moment there is no Act for the guardianship of a King because the Heir-Apparent is no minor. Before 1985 there was an Act to appoint a guardian over the King:

Article 1
1. During the period that the Heir-Apparent, born in the marriage of Us, Beatrix, with His Royal Highness Claus Georg Willem Otto Frederik Geert Prince of the Netherlands, Jonkheer van Amsberg, has become King by hereditary succession and can not exercise the royal prerogative because of not having attained the age of consent conform the Constitution, Our Consort aforementioned will act as Regent of the Kingdom,
and,
will Our Consort aforementioned have deceased before this period, Her Royal Highness Margriet Francisca Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau, Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld will act as Regentess of the Kingdom.

Article 2
Might Our Consort beforementioned decease or abdicate the Regency or become unable to fulfill the Regency, Our Consort beforementioned will be succeeded by Her Royal Highness Margriet Francisca Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau, Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld as Regentess of the Kingdom.

Should the future King W-A die before Princess C-A reaches her majority, is it likely that Princess Maxima would act as regent or would Prince Constantijn be chosen?

flcty 04-24-2007 03:50 AM

I think it would be realistic nowadays to have a King/Queen [the youngest] 28/29-early thirties. Let them be children/teens, go to school/uni, date meet girls/boys. They might at the beginning not have the right flair/confidence as a person, they might be complety arrongant, self-obsessed, lazy - give them time to let them grow out of all of those characteristics. Let them develop skills and experience.

LadyK 04-24-2007 07:51 AM

I think some royals seem "able" to take the throne younger, like Guillaume of Luxembourg, who is 25 (or 25, I don't remember), but is already being groomed for his role. Others that would have done so would be Crown Princess Victoria, who started her work young as well.


Philippe was considered too young because he wasn't considered strong enough to lead Belgium, an country who's populice is divided between two cultural groups, and Albert, who was older, decided not to abdicate. Now that Philippe is older, and more settled, some might think Albert would abdicate, but he is a rather popular ruler, and the concern is that Philippe would polarize people.

LadyK 04-24-2007 07:53 AM

Current Monarchs Ages at Accension:

King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden: 27
King Abdullah II of Jordan: 37
King Albert II of Belgium: 59
Emperor Akihito of Japan: 56
Prince Albert II of Monaco: 47
Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah Al-Mu'izzaddin Waddaulah of Brunei: 21
Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands: 42
King Bhumibol Adulyadej (Rama IX): 19 (he has reigned over fifty years!)
Queen Elizabeth II of the Great Britain: 26
Prince Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein: 44
King Harold V of Norway: 54
Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg: 45
King Juan Carlos I of Spain: 37
King Mohammed VI of Morocco: 36

Iain 04-24-2007 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fan
Whos some of the Yougest Monarchs Europe has had

Mary Stuart was only six days old when she became Queen of Scots.
Child monarchs were a bit of a Scots speciality.

leomichel 04-24-2007 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fan
Whos some of the Yougest Monarchs Europe has had

Louis XIV became king of France at age 5, in 1643, and was succeeded in 1715 by his great-grandson, Louis XV, who was lso 5.

Closer to us, king Alfonso XIII of Spain was born king of Spain, posthumously in 1885.

Beatrice 04-24-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leomichel
Louis XIV became king of France at age 5, in 1643, and was succeeded in 1715 by his great-grandson, Louis XV, who was lso 5.

yes,he was the youngest king ever.:neutral:

Henri M. 04-24-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZandraRae
A priceless picture to be sure, Henri! I remember reading somewhere that someone else, I believe her mother made the decisions until Wilhelmina became of age, that is 18. Is this right?:flowers:

Yes, her mother Queen Emma of the Netherlands born Princess von Waldeck und Pyrmont acted as Regentess of the Kingdom until her daughter became 18 years old. Wilhelmina was Queen anyway.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TLLC
Should the future King W-A die before Princess C-A reaches her majority, is it likely that Princess Maxima would act as regent or would Prince Constantijn be chosen?

Yes, I think that is most likely. When King Willem IV Alexander has an underaged Heir, most likely the following Act will be issued:

Article 1
During the period that the Heir-Apparent, born in the marriage of Us, Willem IV Alexander, with Her Royal Highness Máxima, Princess of the Netherlands, has become King by hereditary succession and can not exercise the royal prerogative because of not having attained the age of consent conform the Constitution, Our Consort aforementioned will act as Regentess of the Kingdom,
and,
will Our Consort aforementioned have deceased before this period, His Royal Highness Constantijn Christof Frederik Aschwin, Prince of the Netherlands, Prince of Orange-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg will act as Regent of the Kingdom.

Article 2
Might Our Consort beforementioned decease or abdicate the Regency or become unable to fulfill the Regency, Our Consort beforementioned will be succeeded by His Royal Highness Constantijn Christof Frederik Aschwin Prince of the Netherlands, Prince of Orange-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg as Regent of the Kingdom.

:flowers:

Verde Esmeralda 04-24-2007 02:19 PM

40 years old seems like a fine age to me... not too young, not too late ... if allowed to wait, as W-A for example... btw, I think he won't reign until he's 50!! He seems to be so confortable with his Prince status...and Beatrix is VERY comfortable with her chair!! : )

LadyK 04-24-2007 07:03 PM

This seems a little off topic, but from reading Henri M's last post, I have a question. He mentioned Willem IV Alexander, and I'm wondering: will the Prince of Orange, when he takes the throne, be Willem V Alexander, or Willem-Alexander the ___ or something different altogether?

The Watcher 04-24-2007 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyK
This seems a little off topic, but from reading Henri M's last post, I have a question. He mentioned Willem IV Alexander, and I'm wondering: will the Prince of Orange, when he takes the throne, be Willem V Alexander, or Willem-Alexander the ___ or something different altogether?

Willem IV according the prince himself. Henri M. mentioned also Her Royal Highness Máxima, Princess of the Netherlands,which probably will not be her title in my opinion. But that's an other discussion ;)

Next Star 05-17-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty
Well, I think in most Monarchies the Kings /Queens have to be 18 years (or older of course) to rule the country.
I think it's because "18" is a very fixed "mark" in the European Society. When you are 18 you are an "adult".
So, you can vote, drive a car ,...well and a Heir to the Throne can become a King :lol: .


What happenes if a King dies and the Heir to the Throne isn't 18 yet?
Would his wife "rule" the country until her Son/daughter is able to be King/Queen or would one of the King's siblings be the "ruler" for this period? (I guess so...)

Such because someone can vote or drive a car does not mean their are ready to head state of state espically at the age of 18. Other 18 year olds will be going off to college or getting a job not being head of state. Atleast the age should be 21 to be head of state.

Leslie2006 12-04-2007 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emilia (Post 297537)
In Belgium , the crownprince(princess) has to be 18 years before he/she can become king or queen . King Boudewijn became king when he was 18 . Ofcourse , this is to young , but legal .Until he was 18 , Prince Karel ( I think it was his uncle ) was regent of Belgium .

You're correct about Charles being regent. Yes, he was Baudouin's paternal uncle--the younger brother of Leopold III. Prince Charles served as regent during World War II, I believe, since the king and his family were forced to leave for Switzerland at the time.

Stefan 12-15-2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ysbel (Post 297605)
The 18 year old age limit dates from a time when people grew up faster and died younger. I think the last British monarch to successfully take over the throne at 18 was Henry VIII. But the generals and statesmen running the country were all young too.

Before him Edward III was crowned as a child but he assumed the powers at 18. However, at 18, he had already led the English forces in battle several times. That was what was needed at that time for a King to gain respect of his subjects and rule effectively.

18 year olds today are not in the same league.

Queen Victoria became Queen only a month after her 18. birthday in June 1837.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emilia (Post 297537)
King Boudewijn became king when he was 18 . Ofcourse , this is to young , but legal .Until he was 18 , Prince Karel ( I think it was his uncle ) was regent of Belgium .

King Baudouin I. became King in July 1951 when he was 20.

PrincessofEurope 12-27-2007 07:01 PM

i think that queen elizabeth and queen victoria prove that maturity isnt always the key to a long and successful reign

Royal Fan 12-31-2007 09:10 PM

How old are The Prince of Wales and Prince William likely to be also with reguards to the other European Heirs Apprent

Lumutqueen 04-04-2009 02:13 PM

Who is they youngest monarch at the moment does anybody no?
I don't mean just the heir, their spouses like Queen Rania??

And who was the youngest monarch ever?
I thought it was Henry the VIII son Edward?

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Kotroman 04-05-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumutqueen (Post 918011)
And who was the youngest monarch ever?
I thought it was Henry the VIII son Edward?

x

The youngest monarchs were King John II of France and King Alphonse XIII of Spain. They were both born after their fathers had died, so they became monarchs at the moment of birth... or even in the womb ;)

Lumutqueen 04-10-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotroman (Post 918323)
The youngest monarchs were King John II of France and King Alphonse XIII of Spain. They were both born after their fathers had died, so they became monarchs at the moment of birth... or even in the womb ;)

Wow, thank you. :)
They obviously didn't ascend the throne, so what happened?
x

Kotroman 04-10-2009 04:02 PM

I don't understand. They didn't literally ascend the throne as they obviously couldn't sit on the day of birth :smile: They did become monarchs though. Alphonse XIII's mother, Maria Christina of Austria, served as regent for her son, while John I's regent and successor was his uncle, Philip V. (NB: there is a typo in my previous reply, it's John I, not John II, who became monarch at birth)

Mary I, Queen of Scots, was less than a week old when she became monarch and she was crowned when she was a 9-month-old baby.

Lumutqueen 04-10-2009 05:29 PM

John I of France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to this, The Prince died when he was 5 days old. The his uncle Phillip V succeded.

My my, A queen at six days old. Thats something.

Your right Alfonso XIII mother Maria Christina acted as regent until he was 16.

x

Iluvbertie 05-24-2009 07:17 AM

The youngest King of England was Henry VI who was about 9 months old when his father, Henry V, died.

Since Edward VI (who was 10 when he became King) no English monarch has needed a regency with Victoria coming the closest.

Before Edward VI there had been a number of child kings - Richard II, Henry VI, Edward V and Edward VI to name a few of them.

egbert the second 04-21-2011 08:32 PM

Henry the sixth became king aged 6 months

Grandduchess24 02-13-2012 06:15 PM

Is there really an age "limit" to be monarch ?I don't think so because at what ever age they are when their parent monarch dies when what ever age they are they are heir to the throne but then again there is the regency thing until they are of age but was trying to be avoided for Queen Victoria,who was in the middle of her uncles William and leopold.

Lumutqueen 02-13-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egbert the second (Post 1236246)
Henry the sixth became king aged 6 months

He was aged nine months, he was born on 6th December 1421 and became King on 31st August 1422.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grandduchess24 (Post 1370216)
Is there really an age "limit" to be monarch ?

No there is no age limit to be a monarch, but there is certainly an age when a member of royalty should be capable to rule. Such as in the case above, a King at 9 months old is not a very capable King.

CyrilVladisla 11-24-2014 05:59 PM

Sancho II of Portugal was born September 8, 1209.
He became King of Portugal in 1223.
Queen Maria II of Portugal was declared of age when she was fifteen.

nascarlucy 11-29-2014 07:08 AM

The person would have to be the age of majority to become King/Queen. Prior to this, someone else would be ruling.


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