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NJRedDevils 06-25-2005 08:34 AM

Queen Silvia's Family and Siblings - The Sommerlaths
 
does anyone have any information about Queen Silvia's brother's and their family.

I notice there is information on the King's sisters but nothing on the Queen's does anyone know anything about them:confused:

Thanks

Yennie 06-25-2005 02:15 PM

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Silvia has three older brothers: Walther Jr, Ralf and Jörg
Here´s a part about Silvias family from this article:
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.j...usRenderType=2

Första gången Silvia kom till Brasilien var hon två år. Hon anlände med det brasilianska fartyget Santarem som hämtat hem de sydamerikaner som av någon anledning befunnit sig i Tyskland under andra världskriget. Med på fartyget var hennes två äldre bröder Ralf och Walther junior, och fyraårige Jörg Sommerlath.

Han hade fötts i Berlin under kriget.
Pappa Walther Sommerlath hade fått sin verkstadsfabrik bombad av de allierade och tvingats evakuera familjen från Nikolassee utanför Berlin till det skonade Heidelberg. Där föddes Silvia Renate, parets första och enda dotter, på lilljulafton 1943.

För mamma Alice de Toledo var situationen värst. Hon var brasilianska och hade träffat den unge tyske affärsmannen på stranden i Rio de Janeiro i mitten av tjugotalet. Trots att hon bara var sjutton år gifte de sig kort efter och flyttade till São Paulo. I slutet av trettiotalet försämrades däremot det politiska läget för tyskkolonin i staden och Walther bestämde sig för att ta med familjen till Tyskland.

Andra världskriget började, och när USA senare förklarade krig mot Tyskland anslöt sig Brasilien på de allierades sida. Brasilien skickade trupper till Italien och i en av dem ingick Alice bror, Silvias morbror. Han var läkare i den brasilianska armén och stred mot tyskarna i södra Italien.

Inte förrän efter den sista våldsamma attacken, slutstriden i Berlin 1945, kom Walther Sommerlath tillbaka till Heidelberg. Återresan till Brasilien kunde planeras.

De köpte ett rosa kolonialhus med vita knutar i centrala São Paulo och började ett nytt liv. Dotterbolaget till den tyska stålkoncernen Röchling-Buderus som Walther jobbat för tidigare i Brasilien fanns däremot inte kvar. Företaget lades ned efter kriget och koncernchefen Hermann Röchling dömdes till tio års fängelse för krigsförbrytelser.

Silvias pappa fick i stället i uppdrag av det svenska stålbolaget Uddeholm att bygga upp ett brasilianskt dotterbolag till dem. Snart blev han vd för dotterbolaget och familjens ekonomi var räddad. Silvia skrevs in på en tysk privatskola i São Paulo och fick så småningom ett eget rum på övervåningen. För att sprida glädje i det nya hemmet skaffade familjen en apa. Micki blev Silvias främsta lekkamrat under de kommande åren.

photo: the Sommerlath siblings at home in Heidelberg in 1944 (?)

Yennie 06-25-2005 02:22 PM

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Photos the brothers: Jörg, Ralf and Walter

Yennie 06-25-2005 03:58 PM

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Silvias youngest brother, 63 year old Jörg Sommerlath, is a diplomat working at the Brazilian embassy in Germany.
He is married to Simone and they have two children, 13 year old Helena and 11 year old Vivian

Early 2005 Jörg got the diagnosis cancer in the
throat and went throug an operation earlier this year at the hospital in Munich.

robby86 06-25-2005 04:03 PM

Does she get to see them often?

Yennie 06-25-2005 04:08 PM

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I dont know that much about the Sommerlath cousins, other that Patrick Sommerlath, son of Walter.
He lives in Sweden and when he moved her in his teens he stayed with the royal family at Drottningholm and now he has a apartment at the royal mews, just like Madeleine
Patrik Sommerlath married actress Camilla Lundén around 2000/2001 and they has a son, Leopold. They are now divorced

The photo shows Patrick Sommerlath with princess Margrethas daughter Sibylla Ambler, at the ice hotel in Jukkasjärvi in december 2003

Patrick with ex-wife Camilla Lundén in may 2003

Patrik in december 2003

Yennie 06-25-2005 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by robby86
Does she get to see them often?

They usually visit the royal family on Solliden every summer. And they were in Sweden in december 2003 when Silvia celebrated her 60th birthday

Gita 06-25-2005 05:01 PM

Siblings
 
Is Queen Silvia the youngest out of the four siblings?

Yennie 06-25-2005 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gita
Is Queen Silvia the youngest out of the four siblings?

Yes she is. Walter jr is the oldest, then comes Ralf (I think :) ), then Jörg and Silvia is the youngest

Gita 06-25-2005 06:35 PM

Thanks :-)
 
Thank you Yennie. :) ;) :cool:

NJRedDevils 06-25-2005 09:37 PM

Thanks for the information

Yennie 06-26-2005 04:51 PM

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Here´s a photo from the funeral of Walter Sommerlath in 1990. The Queens mother in the middle, Silvia on the left and Carl Gustaf and Victoria.
Carl Philip and Madeleine wasn´t there, perhaps they were to little.

Helen88 07-24-2005 02:23 PM

Patrick Sommerlath
 
Hey everyone!

I once read that Queen Silvia´s nephew Patrick lived with the Royal family when he was younger?
Is that true? If yes, why did he live with them?
Thanks!
Helen

Yennie 07-24-2005 03:59 PM

Yes its true. Patrik moved to Stockholm when he was a teenager to "get away" from his life at home. I think I´ve read somewhere that he was friends with not-so-nice people or something like that... and thats way his parents send him away

Yennie 07-24-2005 04:36 PM

here´s a thread about Silvias brothers and family.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=6325

perhaps this thread should be moved there

Lena 07-25-2005 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yennie
here´s a thread about Silvias brothers and family.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=6325

perhaps this thread should be moved there

I´ve merged now the thread on Patrick Sommerlath with the thread on Silvia´s family.

Yennie 02-18-2006 01:36 PM

Jörg Sommerlath passed away this afternoon after beeing ill with cancer since early 2005

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyhete...780853,00.html

Yennie 03-21-2006 02:03 PM

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On a members-only site, a small world, Patrick Sommerlath, along with Lussan Gottlieb and other royal-related persons, has a profile.

In his photo he poses (probably :) ) with his son Leopold, godson of Patricks cousin crownprincess Victoria

photo from a small world via Aftonbladet

Marengo 06-13-2007 06:20 AM

I was curious about Queen Sylvia's father. I don't know much of the man except for his name. Does anybody know what he did for a living, how he met his Brazilian wife and, as a German, how he spent WWII?

Yennie 06-13-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo
I was curious about Queen Sylvia's father. I don't know much of the man except for his name. Does anybody know what he did for a living, how he met his Brazilian wife and, as a German, how he spent WWII?

Walter and Alice met at Copacabana around the year of 1925. They were very young, Alice was only 17 I belive. Walther was a bussness man who had a factory in Germany during WWII. During the war his factory made some war-related material so he did not serve and lived with his family in Heidelberg. I think his factory in Berlin was bombed and possibly destroyed.
After the war the Sommelath family left Germany for Brazil, where mother Alice was born, and they lived in a villa in Sao Paolo and Walther worked for the swedish company Uddeholm


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