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Gabriella 05-17-2005 07:26 PM

HSH Prince Albert Current Events 6 : May 2005 - June 2005
 
Here is the new thread for news and pictures of HSH, Prince Albert.
You can find the old thread here: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...582#post214582

Enjoy! :)

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillia
Sounds a little fishy to me. While her tactic seems a little heavy handed, I can understand her point. He had his 'amusement', now he should claim the kid, if it is his.

God forbid what if something happened to Albert (we wish him much success and long proserpous reign) and nobody knew this child existed, his estate would put a royal battle on caring for the boy at all. Those assistants of his could lie about even knowing anything of the boy. He should better take care of his business. Sad.

According to Nicole Albert has been taking care of her and her family. I can assure you in my country he has done more then most American father's would. She should have waited to show respect to him for the mourning period as requested. I wonder how much her ex-husband provided for his two. If Albert provided an apartment for her, etc., then apparently not as much. I'm sorry I view things from the stand point of having been a single mother.

No one seems to be understanding the rules Albert is forced to live by until July 6, 2005, he can't publicly acknowledge if Alexandre is or isn't his child. Nor for that matter Jazim or any other child he might have. Tamara tried to get Albert to acknowledge Jazim by filing the paternity suit. Nicole said she didn't have to Albert had the tests done. If in fact Alexandre is Albert's child he gave Nicole, Alexandre, and his brother's a gift of allowing the time for the child to develop away from the camera flashes. The paparazzi will now be at every corner and door way once they walk out the door or with zoom lens to see in to their home and private life. Sort of how all the photos get to the Forum taken in private. I can tell you exactly how it feels to open a paper to see your picture in it you weren't aware it had been taken. I looked at one and tried to figure out where he had been to take it. Standing in a busy intersection not only endangering his own life but that of others. As the
paparazzi that were responsible for the death of Princess Diana not a drunk driver. Nicole will now be treated as the other Grimaldi's chased for photo's. None of her 3 children will live a normal life again. Jazim still has photo's taken of her even though the Palace made a statement that she wasn't Albert's child.

Anyone ever think that perhaps Albert hasn't legally married and had a child yet isn't just because of his father not approving of his girlfriends since I recently told you Rainier thought Alicia was charming. That would mean he liked her only Albert wasn't in love with her. Wanting to give your child things you didn't isn't uncommon. I want it for mine. I don't think Albert was afraid of his father more he respected him and his opinion.

Lillia 05-17-2005 07:55 PM

I understand what you are saying LadyMacAlpine; it is still unfortunate that she did that. Pr. Albert has his reasons for not being public about the situation. I think her timing and method is questionable, that is what I meant.

But I can also understand that she would be concerned if nobody in that circle knew that the boy belonged to him. That is, if she is actually worried about something.

It is obvious that she has already benefitted from him providing for her and other children, so I wonder what her reason would be for becoming so aggressive. It looks a little like she just does not want to let go of the relationship w/Albert or perhaps she thinks she deserves priveledges because she is the mother of this child. She comes across like she is trying to demand things for herself but using the child as a cover.

I think there was a comment that she was planning to move to the French Riveria so the baby could be close to his father -- sounds rather selfish and strange to me. She seems calculating; Albert can get to the boy wherever he is in the world, she does not need to camp out on his door step.

What about how 'close' the other kids are to their own father -- you know, her ex husband? Why would she drag them so physically far away from their papa? Where is he in all of this?

I don't understand why is she so insisting that Alexandre be close to his 'alleged father', while at the same time she is saying she will move (I suppose her other children would go with her) and put more distance between her other children and the ex-husband. Has she no concern for those childrens' relationship with him?

That's all I was saying -- I like Albert.

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillia
I understand what you are saying LadyMacAlpine; it is still unfortunate that she did that. I think her timing and method is questionable, that is what I meant. I can also understand that she would be concerned if nobody in that circle knew that the boy belonged to him. I do think she has already benefitted from him providing for her and her children, so I wonder what her reason would be for becoming so aggressive. It looks a little like she does not want to let go of the relationship w/Albert or perhaps she thinks she deserves priveledges because she is the mother of this child.

I think there was a comment that she was planning to move to the French Riveria so the baby could be close to his father -- sounds rather selfish to me. What about how close the other kids are to their father -- you know, her ex? Why is she so insisting that Alexandre be close to his alleged father, while at the same time she is saying she will move (I suppose her other children would go with her) and put more distance between those children and their father.

That's all I was saying -- I like Albert.

I understand what you were saying. Many don't understand the situation like Nicole to have pushed it as she did. She made a statement about how it was a joy for an African man to have a child not shameful. Albert isn't African nor is he prejudice I don't feel he was ashamed either she failed to see the situation isn't that same as with a commoner or where she comes from. This is a definition of protocol a code prescribing strict adherence to correct etiquette and precedence (as in diplomatic exchange and in the military services).

I like Albert too and think when he can he will do what is right loving children the way he does.

Lillia 05-17-2005 08:26 PM

I do not think race has anything to do with this - I agree with you -- I still think she is unnecessary pushy and confrontational and demanding and she wants special privelege or something. If he is already giving her a fancy address in Paris and alot of money, why jump up and down? Maybe she is getting bad advice or something; somebody is whispering crazy things in her ear:confused: .

She should have known that one cannot have a baby with expactation to keep a man -- does not matter who the man is, when it's over it's over.

Maybe she thinks she should get a palace w/servants or something then say it is the baby's right to have all of that (2 year olds do not care about servants, you know). A cultural conflict is plausible, but she was working for Air France, it is an international company and she would have been meeting people from all over the world, so she should know better how to conduct herself and that everyone does not see everything the way she does.


I don't think Albert is ashamed of any children. I sincerely think she is trying to force him to give her special priveledge or to continue some kind of association or else she will behave like she is a victim of him or something.
How ridiculous.
I think she is immature; she got starry glitter-dust in her eyes after being around him and cannot see anything else; she does not want to be regular after being around all of that posh stuff.

michelleq 05-17-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine
I understand what you were saying. Many don't understand the situation like Nicole to have pushed it as she did. She made a statement about how it was a joy for an African man to have a child not shameful. Albert isn't African nor is he prejudice I don't feel he was ashamed either she failed to see the situation isn't that same as with a commoner or where she comes from. This is a definition of protocol a code prescribing strict adherence to correct etiquette and precedence (as in diplomatic exchange and in the military services).

I like Albert too and think when he can he will do what is right loving children the way he does.

Just got in from work. I agree with you also and again, Lady MacAlpine! I don't believe he has a prejudice bone in his body, and actually, I don't think his siblings do either. Nor do I believe that his parents were prejudice; they were just brought up during a different time frame where people though different.

Albert will be an outstanding Ruler and I want him to be happy in his life!

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 08:48 PM

I liked the post in the other thread where he spoke in Warsaw.

I have to do this because it's a clear way of showing how to press makes mistakes and people believe them. This was in the HoustonChronicle 05-14-05. Everyone knows that Tamara did in fact give blood samples by her own admission. Someone messed it up and others followed with it.
Quote:

While the palace remained stonily silent, the prince's lawyer spoke ominously of developing "a judicial strategy." Nor is this the only paternity claim looming over the 47-year-old bachelor prince. A week after he became ruler of Monaco on April 6, an American woman announced that he is the father of her 13-year-old daughter, but she has refused to allow a paternity test.


Lillia 05-17-2005 09:04 PM

Well, I guess like you said already -- just have to wait and see. I still think this Nicole wants extra ordinary special priveledges and recognitions from royal circle.

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 09:09 PM

Here is another I just found interesting in the Philadelphia Daily News 05-17-05
Quote:


Monaco's Prince Albert is suing Britain's Daily Mail, German magazine Bunte and Paris-Match for breach of privacy.

The San Francisco Chronicle's "Daily Dish" says Albert is steamed because of stories claiming he's the father of an ex-flight attendant's son.

The odd part? He is.

Nicole Coste, the boy's mother, told Paris-Match that Albert signed the child's birth certificate, confirming his paternity.

The DNA tests? The prince's own lawyer, Thierry Lacoste, says they prove Albert is the father.

To summarize: A reigning monarch fathers a child out of wedlock with a stewardess. She comes forward and tells the world he's the father and DNA proves he's the father.

Tattle's no lawyer but if Prince Albert has a case, we're closing up shop.
I emailed the other paper to tell them their writer did an ooooooooooppppssssssss

Lillia 05-17-2005 09:18 PM

Good for you, LadyMacAlpine:)

I think Albert would be upset about these papers not giving him a chance to know before they printed all that. I would be upset too to be blindsided by all those aggressive things she said.

While he may not be able to keep them from printing stories like that, he does have the right to protect his name from bad press.

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lillia
Good for you, LadyMacAlpine:)

I think Albert would be upset about these papers not giving him a chance to know before they printed all that. I would be upset too to be blindsided by all those aggressive things she said.

While he may not be able to keep them from printing stories like that, he does have the right to protect his name from bad press.

Yes he does. Here is the link to the HoustonChronicle who posted the story. Anyone care to join me to comment to them jump in. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...utlook/3181853

JackieP 05-17-2005 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine
If in fact Alexandre is Albert's child he gave Nicole, Alexandre, and his brother's a gift of allowing the time for the child to develop away from the camera flashes. The paparazzi will now be at every corner and door way once they walk out the door or with zoom lens to see in to their home and private life. Sort of how all the photos get to the Forum taken in private. I can tell you exactly how it feels to open a paper to see your picture in it you weren't aware it had been taken. I looked at one and tried to figure out where he had been to take it. Standing in a busy intersection not only endangering his own life but that of others. As the
paparazzi that were responsible for the death of Princess Diana not a drunk driver. Nicole will now be treated as the other Grimaldi's chased for photo's. None of her 3 children will live a normal life again. Jazim still has photo's taken of her even though the Palace made a statement that she wasn't Albert's child.


And yet she says she wants her child to live a normal life. Not when the alleged father is a Prince and papparazzi will be anywhere and everywhere you are.

semisquare 05-17-2005 11:02 PM

it breaks my heart to think that a mother could use her child in such a way. having children is a privilege, a gift and to use your child to get material things is shameful.
I swear, people should have a license to breed.

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semisquare
it breaks my heart to think that a mother could use her child in such a way. having children is a privilege, a gift and to use your child to get material things is shameful.
I swear, people should have a license to breed.

I think a lot of people feel she did it for money but she claims no and a source said she didn't get paid for the article she did it to get Albert to publicly acknowledge her son. Where she comes from it might be a bigger deal to have a fathers name on the birth certificate then in other places. Stephanie's youngest doesn't have a father listed. Its the children who pay for the parents actions. If I was in Nicole's shoes and he was caring for my child and I, I would still be sitting quietly waiting and thankful the press didn't know about me.

JackieP 05-17-2005 11:42 PM

[QUOTE=LadyMacAlpine If I was in Nicole's shoes and he was caring for my child and I, I would still be sitting quietly waiting and thankful the press didn't know about me.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. She's damned lucky he's providing for the child. There are so many women who don't have that priviledge.

LadyMacAlpine 05-17-2005 11:48 PM

Sporting good fun
 
http://www.skullman.com/images/Monaco/monaco05.jpgAn older picture of Albert with Greg Speirs. Caption with the photos of them. Prince Albert of Monaco commissioned the well known sports artist to create artwork for all four of the Prince's Olympic bobsleds which appeared in the 1995 World Cup Bobsled Championships and 1998 Olympics.














lashinka2002 05-18-2005 08:47 AM

Why would Jazmin Grimaldi be at Rainier's funeral if there wasn't some sort of connection? I mean assuming that she has had no contact with the family since the palace has stated that Albert is not her father, why would she go?
Something seems fishy...

lashinka2002 05-18-2005 10:11 AM

If she is his daughter (which she could be - the palace could have lied) this would be a perfect example of the mother coming out years ago with the claim of Jazmin being Albert's daughter & after all of the press, them coming to an agreement and handling caregiving/custodial situation quietly. I haven't heard any comments come from Rottolo since the claim was made years ago. I know I'm jumping the gun here but hmmm....

monaco70s 05-18-2005 10:18 AM

Well I never saw Jazmin Grace on any photographs of the funeral. I think it must be once again a rumor.

The press is being very harsh with Albert in these hard times while the family is still mourning a great and sad loss and don't even feel like speaking up to clear up all this mess.

LadyMacAlpine 05-18-2005 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lashinka2002
If she is his daughter (which she could be - the palace could have lied) this would be a perfect example of the mother coming out years ago with the claim of Jazmin being Albert's daughter & after all of the press, them coming to an agreement and handling caregiving/custodial situation quietly. I haven't heard any comments come from Rottolo since the claim was made years ago. I know I'm jumping the gun here but hmmm....

According to Cody Enterprise publisher as of 1998 Tamara was still waiting for Albert to acknowledge Jazim as his. July 6 should bring interesting news from Monaco.


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