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Lyonnaise 04-17-2005 04:55 AM

Queen Noor News Thread II
 
A new thread for Queen Noor. Post the latest news on Queen Noor here.
You can find the 'News Thread, Part I' at the following link: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=4995

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closesttoheaven 04-17-2005 12:18 PM

does anyone know about the relationship between queen noor and princess noor (ph's wife)?
is it really so good like QN told?
or was it just another illusion?

maryshawn 04-17-2005 06:07 PM

From everything I've read, it is good. Noor is not a meddling mother in law, that's for sure. And when she spoke of her on TV the other night, there was genuine warmth in her tone so I feel she was being sincere. You can say you like your daughter in law and end there but the fact she took the time to say she considers her her own fifth child and third daughter took it that one step further. It did, however, raise a question in my head about Abir, Ali, and Haya. I thought they had been adopted by Noor and she certainly has a good relationship with Abir; I don't know about Haya and Ali. But she didn't count them as her own. A little odd.

Humera 04-17-2005 06:15 PM

Queen Noor looked very sincere when she spoke of Princess Noor as her third daughter. When Larry King asked her about PN, Noor said without hesitation "I love her"
Im sure she also appreciates the fact that Prince Hamzah has someone to be with, especially at tougher times like this.

Guido 04-17-2005 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closesttoheaven
does anyone know about the relationship between queen noor and princess noor (ph's wife)?
is it really so good like QN told?
or was it just another illusion?

QN arranged their marriage. Believe it or not but this is an arranged marriage and not true love. I am afraid that Hamzah will divorce Princess Noor like his father did and will marry someone else ,perhaps a blond American girl.

Alexandria 04-17-2005 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido
QN arranged their marriage. Believe it or not but this is an arranged marriage and not true love. I am afraid that Hamzah will divorce Princess Noor like his father did and will marry someone else ,perhaps a blond American girl.

Could you please provide evidence of this? Otherwise it is hearsay and gossip and against our Forum Posting Rules and Guidelines:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=4920


Akilah 04-17-2005 08:04 PM

In the last few years, I have sense that Queen Noor is becoming the next Farah Palhavi. My meaning is Farah is a former Queen (of sorts of Iran), after the topple of her husband's regime and then is subsquent death shortly after, it seems as if she is in search of a home. After her husband's death Farah become a queen without a husband and homeland in which to turn. Noor is in a similar but not identical circumstance. I often feel sorry for her, but I wish she would have planned for an inevitable like this. Given her deceased husband's track recond in the marriage department I would have been plotting and planning for my return home, in her case back to the states, as she is now, long ago. The first sign od problem on the horizon I would have put my plans in motion.

elizahawthorne 04-18-2005 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Guido
QN arranged their marriage. Believe it or not but this is an arranged marriage and not true love. I am afraid that Hamzah will divorce Princess Noor like his father did and will marry someone else ,perhaps a blond American girl.

Regardless of whether it is an arranged marriage or not I truly believe P Hamzah and P Noor love each other, they had three years before marriage to develop feelings for one another if not a relationship. You have to understand that there are many places in the world that still operate on arranged marriages and none of those marriages end in divorce just because they were arranged. I don't think at all that P Hamzah and P Noor will split, they seem to be genuinely in love with each other now that they are husband and wife, plus you have to realize that he's married someone from within his own family and there are certain unspoken rules when you do that, one of those rules is that you do not leave each other (in the case of Q Dina and KH it was different because Q Dina was a "distant" cousin) P Hamzah and P Noor are not so distant, apart from that I really fail to understand how you can base P Hamzah's behavior and situation on his father's actions and situations--I don't want to get into it as far as KH and his mariages go, but I believe he had his reasons for splitting with the two wives he split from. In Q Dina's case there was just too much of a difference in intellect and the way their minds worked (i.e. it wasn't a meeting of the minds) and in P Muna's case I think it was a mutual decision, we really can't say, but KH certainly didn't get divorced twice just for sport, just for the fun of it, it wasn't like that...it's never fun to go through a divorce and I'm sure if it could have been avoided he would have avoided it. Anyway this is a Q Noor thread so let's just leave it at that.

-Eliza

tipper 04-18-2005 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido
QN arranged their marriage. Believe it or not but this is an arranged marriage and not true love. I am afraid that Hamzah will divorce Princess Noor like his father did and will marry someone else ,perhaps a blond American girl.

I'm sorry to hear this, if it was arranged, not really by QN, who has no say in Hamzah's life anymore, and she was an almost unwelcome guest at his wed ceremony.

tipper 04-18-2005 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by maryshawn
From everything I've read, it is good. Noor is not a meddling mother in law, that's for sure. And when she spoke of her on TV the other night, there was genuine warmth in her tone so I feel she was being sincere. You can say you like your daughter in law and end there but the fact she took the time to say she considers her her own fifth child and third daughter took it that one step further. It did, however, raise a question in my head about Abir, Ali, and Haya. I thought they had been adopted by Noor and she certainly has a good relationship with Abir; I don't know about Haya and Ali. But she didn't count them as her own. A little odd.

well, Mary, given that Ali and Hayah can't stand her, and Hayah calls her- my father's widow- I'd be surprised if she had said- Ali and Hayah are my children, too- she wasn't even invited at their weds, though she was the 1 who helped to raise both of them, come on, QN has got her own pride, too !:) ;) :) ;) :) ;)

Humera 04-18-2005 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido
QN arranged their marriage. Believe it or not but this is an arranged marriage and not true love. I am afraid that Hamzah will divorce Princess Noor like his father did and will marry someone else ,perhaps a blond American girl.

this coming from a person who calls Queen Noor ugly. I think your bias on the subject is obvious. Not all of us are that naive. Personal opinions and speculations aren't fact.

houri 04-18-2005 01:14 AM

I will write about some thing it maybe wrong or right
maybe when QN tried to arrange or let say encourage her son to marry PN she did a wrong move because maybe the king fright that she try to collecting supporting within the family against him !

tipper 04-18-2005 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houri
I will write about some thing it maybe wrong or right
maybe when QN tried to arrange or let say encourage her son to marry PN she did a wrong move because maybe the king fright that she try to collecting supporting within the family against him !


why most of this Forum members is thinking of QN as a scheming woman ? Hamzah was almost 24, when he wed PN !!!!!! why had it to be an arranged marriage, if it was, maybe it was some1 else who arranged it, or maybe Hamzah married her as he was in love....

closesttoheaven 04-18-2005 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido
QN arranged their marriage. Believe it or not but this is an arranged marriage and not true love. I am afraid that Hamzah will divorce Princess Noor like his father did and will marry someone else ,perhaps a blond American girl.


so where do you no SUCH things?

no i dont believe!

houri 04-18-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tipper
why most of this Forum members is thinking of QN as a scheming woman ? Hamzah was almost 24, when he wed PN !!!!!! why had it to be an arranged marriage, if it was, maybe it was some1 else who arranged it, or maybe Hamzah married her as he was in love....

It is just opinion ;)

Humera 04-18-2005 03:59 PM

Here's something amusing

The Queen has no coat


Queen Noor of Jordan was in San Jose to speak to the Commonwealth Club April 11 at the California Theatre. The following evening, the queen, who is friends with Bono of U2, visited backstage with the band prior to their concert at the HP Pavilion.

Just as the band was due on stage, some one noticed that the queen's coat was missing. Seems the queen heard the Pavilion was home to a hockey team and she tought it might be cold. Good thought. Lily takes a wrap in there too. But the ice hasn't been getting much use this season.

In any event, a celebrity coat hunt ensued. There were political heavyweight Nancy Pelosi, actress Michelle Pfeiffer, tech giant Steve Jobs, and an array of Google executives looking high and low. Bono and the entire band joined the hunt, delaying the sold-out show by several breath-stopping minutes.

As for the coat, it was eventually found in a backroom, by whom Lily does not know, and returned to Queen Noor the next evening at dinner by John Gage, vice president and chief researcher at Sun Microsystems.

Phew. Lily would hate to think the safest big city in America would be the scene on an international incident, or that we'd give the queen the cold shoulder. A fine time was had by all, as the pictures on Page 51 attest.

http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjo.../tidbits1.html

elizahawthorne 04-18-2005 04:02 PM

LOL, I love that article

Guido 04-18-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closesttoheaven
so where do you no SUCH things?

no i dont believe!


Don't be so naive! What do you think why Hamzah married his cousin ? You never heard that most ME royals don't marry for love. The late King Hussein also married his cousin . The arranged marriages often happen in the Arab world and India ,especially when they marry their cousins or princesses from another rich families.

tipper 04-18-2005 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~
Queen Noor looked very sincere when she spoke of Princess Noor as her third daughter. When Larry King asked her about PN, Noor said without hesitation "I love her"
Im sure she also appreciates the fact that Prince Hamzah has someone to be with, especially at tougher times like this.


I agree, she looked so sincere and her eyes were smiling when she talked about PN- she said- she was good for him- meaning Hamzah- I am sure that she still loves her son dearly, but I've got a feeling Hamzah did hurt her, I may be wrong, but he was too eager to please KA, til he was his CP, that may have involved him neglecting his own num, hope to be wrong, 1 think no1 can deny is that she's always loved her own 4 kids alot and always cared for them, last time she talked about hamzah, soon after KH's death, she sounded so proud of him....:) ;) :) ;)

tipper 04-18-2005 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guido
Don't be so naive! What do you think why Hamzah married his cousin ? You never heard that most ME royals don't marry for love. The late King Hussein also married his cousin . The arranged marriages often happen in the Arab world and India ,especially when they marry their cousins or princesses from another rich families.

KH married queen Dina in 1955, 50 years ago- who of the nowadays Princes and Princesses did marry a relative ? would u plz enlighten us as we are all so naive ?


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