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grecka 03-11-2005 07:43 PM

Will Charles Ever Reign?
 
As disliked as he is now, in both Britain and abroad, will Charles ever become king or will the British send him packing?

timtonruben359 03-11-2005 08:00 PM

This is the million dollar question. No one knows what is going to happen after the Queen's reign comes to an end. Heck, there may not be a monarchy after she dies. But let's face it, the Queen is in good health and if she lives as long as her mother she is going to reign for another 20 or more years! By that time Charles will be nearly 80 years old. My personal feelings are that Prince William will be the next King.

I am not saying that Charles would be a bad King, but it would be better to have someone younger on the throne after the Queen dies. Charles would not have time to make any changes to the monarchy before he is suceeded by Prince William.

My personal wish is that the Queen reigns forever, however, unless she is immortal she won't be around forever. When the time comes, Charles should stand aside for William.

wymanda 03-11-2005 08:34 PM

I think that Charles will have a short reign, like Edward VII. I do think that we will see William as a very active Prince of Wales during that time.

Iluvbertie 03-11-2005 09:25 PM

Personally I think that at whatever age Charles is when his mother dies he will become king.

A lot of people seem to think that the Queen will live as long as her mother but I think that she will live a shorter life. I don't think she will live that long after her husband dies as she has loved him since she was 13.

I have recently seen three couples who have been together for 60 plus years and in each case one partner died and the other lasted only about a year or even less in one case. The children in each case pointed out that the surviving partner felt as if so much of them had died with their partner that they couldn't keep going. I see the Queen in this situation. Strangely however I think if the Queen died first I think that Philip could live for a much longer time (relatively considering his age now).

HMQueenElizabethII 03-11-2005 09:42 PM

I do not think so .The Queen is in very good health now, Philip is too.No one is the same chrissy.Maybe the 3 partners u say is like that so The queen and Prince Philip is also the same?No!No one is the same, i think The Queen can live as long as her mother or more.

Elspeth 03-11-2005 09:47 PM

Since Charles is already pushing 60 and William is only in his early 20s, I think that if Charles is in reasonably good health when the Queen dies, he'll become king so that all his decades of training can be put to some good use and William won't be rushed into the straitjacket of kingship before he's had a life. Considering how the Queen's relationship with her children seemed to suffer - and have long-term consequences - because she was otherwise occupied when they were growing up, I don't suppose that either she or Charles would want William to shoulder that burden if he was still unmarried or had a very young family.

HMQueenElizabethII 03-11-2005 09:56 PM

Yes, i know that we also support that Charles becomes King.We know that now he is actually becoming a good father and better than before.But we also still have our support for The Queen.It would be so great if The Queen becomes a longest Monarch ever in British history.

sara1981 03-11-2005 10:44 PM

i have agree with HMQueenElizabethII

because HM QueenII still good health for long times like her mother the Queen Mother still strong health till her 101 years old but mostly people wanted Queen still strong for long times! but the 2 Queen never let down! and Prince Philips also!

Prince Charles still good health also if he would become King for while what your posts says that! but mostly people wanted William become King more best than Prince Charles!

Sara Boyce

timtonruben359 03-12-2005 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chrissy57
A lot of people seem to think that the Queen will live as long as her mother but I think that she will live a shorter life. I don't think she will live that long after her husband dies as she has loved him since she was 13.

I have recently seen three couples who have been together for 60 plus years and in each case one partner died and the other lasted only about a year or even less in one case.

I think the Queen will live as long as her mother if not longer. She is actually in better health than her mother was at 79. I remember reading once that the Queen once joked to a friend that she intends to live as long as her mother. But you never know.

I know that when Prince Philip passes on, the Queen will be heartbroken but we can't forget that her marriage to Prince Philip is not a typical marriage. They pretty much live very seperate lifes in private, as well the Queen has a job to keep her mind off things.

If Charles becomes king, it will be a very short reign...no more than a decade.

HMQueenElizabethII 03-12-2005 04:51 AM

Yes, i agree with you.Maybe if Prince Philip passed on The Queen would be heartbroken.But i do not think that The Queen wil give up her duties.She is a great Queen, she is hard-working. Maybe she would be sad in the first few time but not long.We can look as Queen Beatrix, Prince Claus and her are very close and they have great lve for each other so much but Queen Beatrix still doing her duties she not give up.Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is a very strong lady she is not easy to give up like that.

Claire 03-12-2005 05:22 AM

I recently read a book about royals and their lives, before the current Windsors, and although many might seem it trivial - Britian has never had it better with their royal family. They have royals that actually care the British people and about other causes. And yes, this is long before Diana and her "common-touch" made an appearance. And do a whole lot of good whether the British people or press are willing to hear it or not.
Charles will be a good king. We know enough of his passion and drive to know that. Will the British people allow Charles to demonstrate this, it might even redeem him in their eyes. They should give him that chance, if anything. The crown might make Charles into the man were believe that he can be.

Here is something you might not know. After the abdiction, there was a lot in the press about ending the monarchy then and there. The reason, the press darling Edward VIII had gone away. The press disliked the Duke of York. They believed him dull, unable to follow the fashions and in general, stupid. (Probably due to the stuttering.) Likewise they weren't too happy with the Princess Elizabeth, Duchess of York becaming Queen. Her nickname in the press was Cookie and they liked dismissing her as a royal tag along. Isn't it ironic that George VII and the Queen Mother are now held up as icons of royal standing.

wymanda 03-12-2005 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by timtonruben359
I know that when Prince Philip passes on, the Queen will be heartbroken but we can't forget that her marriage to Prince Philip is not a typical marriage. They pretty much live very seperate lifes in private, as well the Queen has a job to keep her mind off things.

How do we know this??????
Yes the Queen & Prince Phillip do not spend every day & night together but that is not because they don't want too. Considering their ages they both undertake a heavy list of public duties which can see them at opposite ends of the country. Their body language indicates that they are very close.

selrahc4 03-12-2005 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by grecka
As disliked as he is now, in both Britain and abroad, will Charles ever become king or will the British send him packing?

Those that "dislike" the Prince of Wales are a minority. Many more like or respect him. It's just that the minority are far more vociferous in expressing their views, and many of their views are driven not so much by dislike of him but by feelings for someone else who was once in his life. I've always respected him (not blindly, he has faults of course) but, like the rest of the majority, don't often feel the need to tell others about it.

tiaraprin 03-13-2005 12:51 AM

We will never know now if Charles will have the chance to reign. The health of his mother, and Charles' current age would point to a short reign or never to reign.

HM the Queen would never retire from public life if the Duke of Edinburgh should pass on before her. She has her mother's example to follow and her promise on her 21st birthday to serve her people as long as life permits.

As for Charles being a good or bad king, the thought of him as king scares me. While he has had good ideas such as the Prince's trust, Charles is a very insular man who cannot stand the trap of being Prince of Wales. How will his being King help him? The scrutiny will become much worse.

He has not lead the most exemplary life either. While all make mistakes, Charles has made some big ones.

The monarchy's hopes for survival and revival lie with William. I believe William can find a better way to balance custom/ritual with a breath of fresh air his mother always believed the monarchy needed. While many may detest Diana, Diana was right about this. The monarchy has to change and adapt to stay pertinent in the lives of the people. I think William can do this. Charles is too set in his ways and desires.

MoonlightRhapsody 03-13-2005 03:00 AM

Disregarding the current issue with Charles, I personally doubt that Charles would ever become king. Again, if his mother lasts as long as her mother did, it becomes pretty bleak for Charles. Looking at past precedence, their line tend to live long lives, barring any non-health issues or outside factors.

William will have a better shot at the throne than his father, just looking at age alone.

grecka 03-13-2005 04:01 AM

Well, aside from his age when he acceeds, I should like to know what you think about Charles's popularity factor. I was reading "The Guardian" a few weeks ago that only 30% of the British population think Charles should be king and less than half like him just as a man.

gaggleofcrazypeople 03-17-2005 07:36 PM

Charles will reign. The rules are too complicated for him to not become King.

Elspeth 03-17-2005 09:58 PM

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Well, aside from his age when he acceeds, I should like to know what you think about Charles's popularity factor.
I think it's irrelevant. Once you start being concerned about popularity, you might as well ditch the monarchy and have an elected president as head of state.

hrhcp 03-17-2005 10:52 PM

He's reining right now - er, on weekends, that is - when he's riding his horse. ;)

grecka 03-17-2005 11:06 PM

nicely executed


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