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Tinika 02-02-2005 11:51 AM

Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire (by Amanda Foreman)
 
I'm about a third of the way through this very fascinating book about one of Diana's ancestors, Georgiana (née Spencer), Duchess of Devonshire. The parallels between her life and Diana's are pretty amazing so far...early marriage to an older, emotionally distant husband with a mistress, eating disorders, extraordinary fame, charm, dazzling public persona, private vulnerability and suffering. Has anyone else read this? It's completely absorbing.

susan alicia 02-02-2005 02:38 PM

yes, I read it and loved it. Aristocrats by stella tillyard is also fun. I have to reread both books because there is so much information, they are both worth it.

Nichola 02-02-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinika
I'm about a third of the way through this very fascinating book about one of Diana's ancestors, Georgiana (née Spencer), Duchess of Devonshire. The parallels between her life and Diana's are pretty amazing so far...early marriage to an older, emotionally distant husband with a mistress, eating disorders, extraordinary fame, charm, dazzling public persona, private vulnerability and suffering. Has anyone else read this? It's completely absorbing.

I saw a documentary on TV about Georgiana a few years ago, and it was after I saw it that I bought the book - I haven't had time to read it all though.

susan alicia 02-02-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nichola
I saw a documentary on TV about Georgiana a few years ago, and it was after I saw it that I bought the book - I haven't had time to read it all though.

lets hope they will make the movie (cate blanchett?), love the 18th century.

wymanda 02-02-2005 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by susan alicia
lets hope they will make the movie (cate blanchett?), love the 18th century.

I'd prefer Kate Winslet in the part. :)

Tinika 02-02-2005 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wymanda
I'd prefer Kate Winslet in the part. :)

Or...Keira Knightley?

kelly9480 02-02-2005 10:30 PM

Georgiana wasn't an ancestor of Diana, she was the sister and daughter of Diana's ancestors. Which book about her are you talking about? The one by Amanda Foreman, or the combined bio about her and Bess? I read the Amanda Foreman one, but haven't gotten around to the other one.

I doubt this would get made into a film simply because not enough ppl would be interested. If a film were to be made though, it couldn't be Knightley, she has the wrong colouring. Someone who could carry off red hair, like Winslet, would be needed.

susan alicia 02-03-2005 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kelly9480
Georgiana wasn't an ancestor of Diana, she was the sister and daughter of Diana's ancestors. Which book about her are you talking about? The one by Amanda Foreman, or the combined bio about her and Bess? I read the Amanda Foreman one, but haven't gotten around to the other one.

I doubt this would get made into a film simply because not enough ppl would be interested. If a film were to be made though, it couldn't be Knightley, she has the wrong colouring. Someone who could carry off red hair, like Winslet, would be needed.

the one by amanda foreman. I thought of cate blanchett because somewhere in the book it is mentioned how she is obsessed with her look and diets (I think) and cate is skinny. If I can find the article about the similarities between the DoD and Diana I will try to post bits of it.

But looking at the cover of the book with her portrait, she is for todays standards a bit round and Kate winslet would be perfect

tiaraprin 07-25-2005 07:43 PM

According to Charles' Spencer's book about his family, Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire (nee Lady Georgiana Spencer) was his great-great-great aunt. That would make her Diana's distant aunt also.

kelly9480 07-25-2005 10:17 PM

1st Earl - Georgiana
1st Earl - 2nd Earl - 4th Earl - 6th Earl - 7th Earl - 8th Earl - current Earl & Diana

I'm thinking she was great-great-great-great aunt

tiaraprin 07-26-2005 12:54 AM

Quote from Charles Spencer's Book
 
In his chapter on Georgiana Devonshire, Empress of Style, Charles Spencer says the following:

They said that she (Georgiana Devonshire) exchaned her kisses for votes, something she always denied, but definitely a charge that has stuck for over two centuries--it was the first story about my great-great-great aunt that I can remember being told as a boy. The Spencers, pp 142.

kelly9480 07-26-2005 07:03 PM

Well Spencer skipped a generation, because he's missing a 'great' in there.

Elspeth 07-26-2005 09:08 PM

Yes - considering how many years have passed since she lived, there'd have to have been some extraordinary longevity for her to just be three greats away from the present generation.

tiaraprin 07-27-2005 12:43 AM

Take it up with Earl Spencer Kelly, I was just quoting him.

kelly9480 07-27-2005 03:01 PM

I'm not taking anything up with anyone. I'm just stating a fact. Spencer's book isn't without mistakes.

tiaraprin 07-28-2005 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kelly9480
I'm not taking anything up with anyone. I'm just stating a fact. Spencer's book isn't without mistakes.

Then don't take it out on me. Seems like too many people on here like to show off their knowledge to boost their ego, not help others understand better. If you wish to argue this further, let's do it in Private Messaging and take it out of the thread. Let's get back to talking about Georgiana.

kelly9480 07-29-2005 03:32 PM

I'm not taking anything out on anyone. There is no argument. If you think otherwise, then that's your interpretation, not mine.

lashinka2002 07-29-2005 07:53 PM

I read that Georgianna died of I think gall stones or something rather simple to treat in todays society but not in her day. She was also rather young wasn't she...
Does anyone know what her work for a living was? Charities?
Did she have many lovers? Children?
Please correct me about the gallstones if I'm wrong.

Elspeth 07-29-2005 08:19 PM

The book said she had a liver abscess, although I'm not quite sure how the author actually knew.

wymanda 07-29-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lashinka2002
Does anyone know what her work for a living was? Charities?
Did she have many lovers? Children?

Georgiana seems to have lived for pleasure! Whilst doing what was expected of her as lady of the manor at Chatsworth she was a compulsive gambler & her husband regularly had to pay her debts. Her son inherited the title but never married. He is known as "The Bachelor Duke" and it was he who employed Joseph Paxton as head gardener at Chatsworth and who greatly increased the art & sculpture collections of the estate. Georgiana's daughter married into the Howard family branch who were Earls of Carlisle. It is from this branch that the current Dukes of Devonshire descend.


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