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JessRulz 05-16-2019 04:01 AM

Lady Gabriella and Thomas Kingston News 1: May 2019 -
 

Welcome to Lady Gabriella and Thomas Kingston's
News Thread, Part 1

Commencing May 18, 2019


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royal-blue 05-20-2019 05:27 PM

Is there any reason why the most senior royal to attend Lord Freddie's wedding was Princess Eugenie, yet the entire royal family, including the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh all attended Lady Gabriella's wedding?

Lilyflo 05-20-2019 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royal-blue (Post 2223772)
Is there any reason why the most senior royal to attend Lord Freddie's wedding was Princess Eugenie, yet the entire royal family, including the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh all attended Lady Gabriella's wedding?

Freddie was married when most of the senior royals were on holiday. If he'd married in Windsor in May, it's likely more would have attended.

kaiserin8 05-21-2019 08:20 AM

https://ta-images.condecdn.net/image...024973.jpgDoes anyone know the guy behind Princess Michael of Kent? I see Princess Alexandra here too! Glad that she's able to join this photo with them sad that neither the Duke or Duchess of Kent were present.

Tatiana Maria 05-21-2019 10:16 AM

https://www.royal.uk/official-photog...homas-kingston

The wording of the press release suggests that, at this time, Lady Gabriella is still known as Lady Gabriella Windsor rather than Lady Gabriella Kingston. But in light of what happened to Princess Eugenie, the possibility it will eventually be changed cannot be ruled out.

Lumutqueen 05-21-2019 03:28 PM

Surely she wouldn't be Lady Gabriella Kingston? That would imply her title came from her husband which it doesn't....

O-H Anglophile 05-21-2019 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2224057)
Surely she wouldn't be Lady Gabriella Kingston? That would imply her title came from her husband which it doesn't....

Lady Kingston would not be correct, but Lady Gabriella Kingston would be, just like Lady Sarah Chatto or Lady Sarah McCorqoudale. Their husbands are also Mr.

Somebody 05-21-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile (Post 2224064)
Lady Kingston would not be correct, but Lady Gabriella Kingston would be, just like Lady Sarah Chatto or Lady Sarah McCorqoudale. Their husbands are also Mr.

Exatly, the norm is that they use Lady + first name + married name, as do various other members of the royal family:

Daughters of the duke of Gloucester:
Lady Davina Lewis (we discussed whether she would go back to using Windsor after her divorce)
Lady Rose Gilman

Daughter of the duke of Kent:
Lady Helen Taylor

So, yes, I would fully expect that Lady Gabriella would be known as Lady Gabriella Kingston from now on.

Mirabel 05-24-2019 07:20 AM

Has anyone heard where the couple will honeymoon?

Fijiro 05-24-2019 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 2224057)
Surely she wouldn't be Lady Gabriella Kingston? That would imply her title came from her husband which it doesn't....

I think she will be Lady Gabriella Kingston. If the title would have come from her husband, then she would've been Lady Thomas Kingston. e.g. her sister in law Lady Frederick Windsor, and also her mother Princess Michael.

Biri 05-24-2019 10:28 AM

In Wikipedia she is already Lady Gabriella Kingston.

sophie25 05-24-2019 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirabel (Post 2224791)
Has anyone heard where the couple will honeymoon?

There was a royal reporter on TV a few days ago and he mentioned the Seychelles as the honeymoon destination but whether that's actually correct or not I don't know.

O-H Anglophile 05-24-2019 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biri (Post 2224822)
In Wikipedia she is already Lady Gabriella Kingston.

That means nothing other than possibly someone made an assumption and changed her name in the entry.

Alison H 05-24-2019 03:57 PM

Yes, she's Lady Gabriella Kingston - the title Lady Gabriella stays with her, because it comes from her father, and it doesn't matter that she's changed her surname. As with Lady Helen Taylor, Lady Sarah Chatto, Lady Jane Fellowes, etc.

Tatiana Maria 05-24-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alison H (Post 2224922)
Yes, she's Lady Gabriella Kingston - the title Lady Gabriella stays with her, because it comes from her father, and it doesn't matter that she's changed her surname. As with Lady Helen Taylor, Lady Sarah Chatto, Lady Jane Fellowes, etc.

But has an announcement been posted making it clear that she has changed her surname? The press release with the wedding photographs used Lady Gabriella Windsor.

It is arguable that the George V declaration of 1917 does not allow Lady Gabriella the choice to keep her surname, and the majority of British women opt to change their surnames on marriage, but I don't think it has been clarified.

CyrilVladisla 05-24-2019 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biri (Post 2224822)
In Wikipedia she is already Lady Gabriella Kingston.

Officially should she be The Lady Gabriella Kingston?

Countessmeout 05-24-2019 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla (Post 2224955)
Officially should she be The Lady Gabriella Kingston?

No. The word The designates a substantive title. A title that is simple a courtesy, like Ella and Freddie's, doesn't have the in front of it.

Just like William in Scotland is The Earl of Strathearn. George would simply be Earl of Strathearn as it is a courtesy title in his case.

Tatiana Maria 05-24-2019 08:02 PM

The royal court uses both variations to designate peers' daughters. For example, the official list of members of the royal family includes "The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor" and "The Lady Sarah Chatto".

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/f...l_family_7.pdf

O-H Anglophile 05-24-2019 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alison H (Post 2224922)
Yes, she's Lady Gabriella Kingston - the title Lady Gabriella stays with her, because it comes from her father, and it doesn't matter that she's changed her surname. As with Lady Helen Taylor, Lady Sarah Chatto, Lady Jane Fellowes, etc.

Actually, Jane is Lady Fellowes or Baroness Fellowes, as her husband Robert is Baron Fellowes.

Countessmeout 05-24-2019 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile (Post 2224981)
Actually, Jane is Lady Fellowes or Baroness Fellowes, as her husband Robert is Baron Fellowes.

Yes and no.

The couple married in 1978. Her husband was simply Mr Robert Fellowes when they married. Had she not been the daughter of a Earl, she would have simply been Mrs Fellowes. She was Lady Jane Fellowes when she married due to her courtesy title as a daughter of an Earl.

It wasn't until 21 years later, in 1999, her husband was raised by Baron Fellowes. And then Jane added Baroness Fellowes to her title.


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