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Nico 04-17-2018 05:29 PM

"The Real Camilla: HRH the Duchess of Cornwall" (2018) - ITV Documentary
 
At last a long-awaited documentary about Camilla .

Monday, 23. April

Documentary The Real Camilla: HRH the Duchess of Cornwall to air | Daily Mail Online

This gentle portrait of Britain’s future Queen Consort from Jane Treays (The Queen’s Green Planet) allows us to peek into the life of a woman who’s relatively little known, considering for how long she was at the eye of a storm that rocked the monarchy.

The Real Camilla: HRH the Duchess of Cornwall - what time is it on TV? Cast list and preview.

Dman 04-21-2018 10:18 PM

A few details on the documentary:
Camilla backs hero pensioner who faced off masked robbers | Daily Mail Online

Nico 04-23-2018 05:59 AM

More about the documentary :

Camilla's private side revealed in new TV documentary - ITV News

Dman 04-23-2018 02:52 PM

The Documentary airs tonight at 9PM: ITV 1-
https://www.itv.com/hub/tv-guide

Watch outside the UK-
tvpc.com - ITV 1 1080pHD <img src=" http://tvpc.us/images/itv-logo.jpg " width="30" height="20">

Nico 04-23-2018 05:09 PM

Nicely done, and it didn't pass over some sensitive subjects...
I always thought that Camilla needed to be heard.... and known !

wyevale 04-23-2018 05:12 PM

A thoroughly nice and sincere Woman, whose genuine interest in others shone through in this programme. She will make a fine Queen Consort, when the day eventually dawns.

Dman 04-23-2018 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 2097171)
Nicely done, and it didn't pass over some sensitive subjects...
I always thought that Camilla needed to be heard.... and known !

It was a very nice and relaxing documentary. Camilla is rather frank in her personal remarks and I just find that very refreshing.

Nico 04-23-2018 06:29 PM

Well ...
Viewers warm to Duchess of Cornwall in The Real Camilla documentary | Daily Mail Online

Iluvbertie 04-23-2018 06:43 PM

Read the comments and you get the exact opposite view.

Nico 04-23-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 2097211)
Read the comments and you get the exact opposite view.

Of course you'll get the opposite view : It's the Daily Mail comments section lol
They hate Camilla, maybe not as much as Meghan nowadays, when they don't call other members of the BRF "freeloaders". So is it a reliable source ? Your choice..
I'm more interested in the comments on Twitter, and the overall reactions about the documentary...

Mbruno 04-23-2018 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 2097171)
Nicely done, and it didn't pass over some sensitive subjects...
I always thought that Camilla needed to be heard.... and known !

The simple fact that the documentary referred to Camilla as the future “ Queen consort “ suggests it was produced with the approval of Team Charles. I would take it with a grain of salt, as I do with all obviously biased reporting.

Nico 04-23-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2097229)
The simple fact that the documentary referred to Camilla as the future “ Queen consort “ suggests it was produced with the approval of Team Charles. I would take it with a grain of salt, as I do with all obviously biased reporting.

Did you see it ?
I mean OF COURSE it's some PR from Charles's camp. But is there anything wrong about that ?
After years and years of biased documentary, and books, about how the "Rotweiller" was, i do think it was a bit of refreshing to see, and hear for the first time, a much maligned woman in her own words, in a hope, maybe a bit vain,to gain a balanced and enlightened opinion about her.

And this documentary wasn't shy about Diana, the failed mariages and the sometimes difficult public image of Camilla. It was honnest. So if it's indeed a product from Team Charles, it was very well done.

US Royal Watcher 04-23-2018 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2097229)
The simple fact that the documentary referred to Camilla as the future “ Queen consort “ suggests it was produced with the approval of Team Charles. I would take it with a grain of salt, as I do with all obviously biased reporting.

I'm not sure why you say this. It is a simple fact that Camilla is the future "Queen consort."

Mbruno 04-23-2018 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 2097231)
Did you see it ?

No, I did not, but the use of the term “Queen consort” implies it is sanctioned by Clarence House. An impartial documentary wouldn’t use that designation when the question of Camilla’s title has not been settled yet and, until recently, the official ” intention” that she would be styled “Princess Consort” instead.

US Royal Watcher 04-23-2018 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2097237)
No, I did not, but the use of the term “Queen consort” implies it is sanctioned by Clarence House. An impartial documentary wouldn’t use that designation when the question of Camilla’s title has not been settled yet and, until recently, the official ” intention” that she would be styled “Princess Consort” instead.

When she married Charles, it was announced that they intended that she would be known as "princess consort." However, my understanding is that Camilla will legally be Queen consort, as she is the legal Princess of Wales now. She has simply chosen to use another title.

MARG 04-23-2018 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2097229)
The simple fact that the documentary referred to Camilla as the future “ Queen consort “ suggests it was produced with the approval of Team Charles. I would take it with a grain of salt, as I do with all obviously biased reporting.

Regardless of whether you are on Team Charles or Team let's get rid of the Monarchy, it will take an act of parliament to change her destiny and the government are not looking to make the UK look small, mean and petty at a time they have HM sending her family on charm offensives post Brexit.

cepe 04-23-2018 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2097237)
No, I did not, but the use of the term “Queen consort” implies it is sanctioned by Clarence House. An impartial documentary wouldn’t use that designation when the question of Camilla’s title has not been settled yet and, until recently, the official ” intention” that she would be styled “Princess Consort” instead.

that's what was said - by the Sunday Times Royal Reporter. That she will be Queen Consort - regardless of whether she is known as Princess Consort or not.

Because you haven't seen it, I don't think you are in a position to judge the programme. You have an opinion on Camilla naturally, but that is different to judging the programme tonight.

I thought it fairly balanced - the royal authors and historians were straightforward, some friends gushed a bit, and Camilla came across as direct and positive person.

Don't think it will change many people's mind though

Madame Verseau 04-24-2018 05:37 AM

The rage seen in comments could stem from the initial statement when Camilla and Charles were married; the public pronouncement was she was going to be Princess Consort when Charles becomes king. If that was never the intention then the announcement should never have been made. Now it looks like Clarence House has put one over on the public all these years and it's going to be harder to accept the name change when the time comes.

Iluvbertie 04-24-2018 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nico (Post 2097214)
Of course you'll get the opposite view : It's the Daily Mail comments section lol
They hate Camilla, maybe not as much as Meghan nowadays, when they don't call other members of the BRF "freeloaders". So is it a reliable source ? Your choice..
I'm more interested in the comments on Twitter, and the overall reactions about the documentary...

Actually there are a number of commentators on the DM that are fans of Camilla.Sometimes they get massive green votes and other times massive red ones.

Any one who claims to do research as part of their job - as I do - knows that you have to read all sides to get a full picture not just those that agree with you.

Often the DM has some very good articles and well researched ones. Others are just dross.

To completely write off a source is not what a good researcher ever does because we know that often, even in the dross, there is good stuff.

The paper itself isn't a 'source' but the articles in them are - and you need to look at who the authors are and what barrow they are trying to push.

Twitter comments are no better than the comments in the DM for the most part as again they are largely anonymous (anyone can create an account on twitter and claim to work for an organisation - and once they have been 'approved' and can prove that the name and account aren't theirs twitter still won't shut down the false account - my brother, and his employers, have been trying to get a twitter account created in his name and 'approved' by his employer shut down for three years and twitter says 'no our problem - anyone can create any account and we just approve - we don't check'. That is why I don't have not trust a twitter account and wouldn't use it as a 'reliable source' as a researcher.

wyevale 04-24-2018 05:44 AM

I watched it, and followed the comments on 'Twitter' too.. they were OVERWHELMINGLY positive, with a marked absence of bitterly hostile 'Dianophiles'...


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