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Cocoasneeze 11-28-2017 11:40 AM

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, General News 1: November 2017 - May 2018
 
She'll apply for UK citizenship as soon as logistically possible, but will also keep her US citizenship.

Her dog Bogart is with good friends, and won't cone to UK, Guy is in UK.

Meghan and Harry will make their first joint appearance in Nottingham, this Friday, walkabout included.

Meghan is going to give up all her current patronages, but will take similar patronages soon.

She'll be traveling around UK the next few months to get to know the British people.

All this gathered from twitter.

jacqui24 11-28-2017 12:15 PM

Not sure if someone else has posted this, but KP has confirmed Bogart has been permanently rehomed while Guy is in UK with Meghan and Harry.

FashionMaven 11-28-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2042870)
Not sure if someone else has posted this, but KP has confirmed Bogart has been permanently rehomed while Guy is in UK with Meghan and Harry.

Awww... how sad.

Pranter 11-28-2017 12:17 PM

Yeah I figured this was the case after what she said in the interview.


LaRae

evolvingdoors 11-28-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2042870)
Not sure if someone else has posted this, but KP has confirmed Bogart has been permanently rehomed while Guy is in UK with Meghan and Harry.

I’m very disappointed to hear this as someone who relocated with five cats to a different country and back.
Did they provide a reason why she has chosen to give him away?
I’m sure she’s a lovely person with a big heart but her value in my eyes just went down several levels.


Wasn’t Boggart the one from the pound Ellen told her to adopt?

jacqui24 11-28-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by evolvingdoors (Post 2042950)
Iím very disappointed to hear this as someone who relocated with five cats to a different country and back.
Did they provide a reason why she has chosen to give him away?
Iím sure sheís a lovely person with a big heart but her value in my eyes just went down several levels.


Wasnít Boggart the one from the pound Ellen told her to adopt?

Why did she go down several levels. :ermm: It's highly unlikely she would've left Bogart behind while moving Guy to UK if they are both fit to travel. Royal reporters were reporting that it was due to health reasons.

FashionMaven 11-28-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2042960)
Why did she go down several levels. :ermm: It's highly unlikely she would've left Bogart behind while moving Guy to UK if they are both fit to travel. Royal reporters were reporting that it was due to health reasons.

Awww so Bogart is too sick to make the move maybe? Poor thing.

jacqui24 11-28-2017 01:00 PM

Emily Andrews asked about Christmas at Sandringham and expected to be told only married couples are allow, but to her surprise, the answer was that KP will announce Christmas plans in the coming weeks.

https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/s...51230226714626

Cocoasneeze 11-28-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by evolvingdoors (Post 2042950)
Iím very disappointed to hear this as someone who relocated with five cats to a different country and back.
Did they provide a reason why she has chosen to give him away?
Iím sure sheís a lovely person with a big heart but her value in my eyes just went down several levels.


Wasnít Boggart the one from the pound Ellen told her to adopt?

I have no doubt she had Bogart's best interest at heart when she left him behind. He's being well taken care of by people Meghan trusts.

loonytick 11-28-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by evolvingdoors (Post 2042950)
Iím very disappointed to hear this as someone who relocated with five cats to a different country and back.
Did they provide a reason why she has chosen to give him away?
Iím sure sheís a lovely person with a big heart but her value in my eyes just went down several levels.


Wasnít Boggart the one from the pound Ellen told her to adopt?

Forcing a pet to undergo a long-distance relocation isn't always the kind or loving thing to do to. It depends on the animal and its needs. Meghan specifically said he was with "a friend," and she's spent a lot of time away from home in the last year and a half...I suspect the dogs have been spending a lot of time with a loving caretaker during her absences and that Bogart is simply going to remain with that person (to whom he has probably bonded). That sounds much more humane than subjecting an elderly animal to a very stressful and possibly damaging transition.

HRHHermione 11-28-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by loonytick (Post 2042975)
Forcing a pet to undergo a long-distance relocation isn't always the kind or loving thing to do to. It depends on the animal and its needs. Meghan specifically said he was with "a friend," and she's spent a lot of time away from home in the last year and a half...I suspect the dogs have been spending a lot of time with a loving caretaker during her absences and that Bogart is simply going to remain with that person (to whom he has probably bonded). That sounds much more humane than subjecting an elderly animal to a very stressful and possibly damaging transition.



That's the impression I got too- that she'd made the best decision she could for each dog individually based on what they could handle and what would make them happiest.

Pranter 11-28-2017 01:07 PM

Our son went thru this earlier this year when he and his wife moved to Germany from the U.S. After consulting with their vet, their Puggle was rehomed with closer friends who knew him well (and he loved them too) due to his health and 'smashed' nose of that breed. The vet felt it was 50/50 he would survive the flight over.

I wouldn't assume Meghan has just walked off and forgotten about her beloved pet.

LaRae

Cocoasneeze 11-28-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by loonytick (Post 2042975)
Forcing a pet to undergo a long-distance relocation isn't always the kind or loving thing to do to. It depends on the animal and its needs. Meghan specifically said he was with "a friend," and she's spent a lot of time away from home in the last year and a half...I suspect the dogs have been spending a lot of time with a loving caretaker during her absences and that Bogart is simply going to remain with that person (to whom he has probably bonded). That sounds much more humane than subjecting an elderly animal to a very stressful and possibly damaging transition.

You said it so much better than I could.

It seems like it was the best solution for Bogart.

FashionMaven 11-28-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 2042982)
Our son went thru this earlier this year when he and his wife moved to Germany from the U.S. After consulting with their vet, their Puggle was rehomed with closer friends who knew him well (and he loved them too) due to his health and 'smashed' nose of that breed. The vet felt it was 50/50 he would survive the flight over.

I wouldn't assume Meghan has just walked off and forgotten about her beloved pet.

LaRae

What a difficult decision though, parting with a long term pet.

I once sat with a friend when her cat was euthanized. It was so sad. So I can understand Meghan not wanting to risk Bogart's health. I hope the other dog doesn't get heart sick without his/her buddy. I lost a puppy once who got so heart sick after our neighbor's dog (and her play date) died, that she became anemic, stopped eating and died.

I haven't had a pet since - too hurt by it all.

jacqui24 11-28-2017 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FashionMaven (Post 2043003)
I once sat with a friend when her cat was euthanized. It was so sad. So I can understand Meghan not wanting to risk Bogart's health. I hope the other dog doesn't get heart sick without his/her buddy. I lost a puppy once who got so heart sick after our neighbor's dog (and her play date) died, that she became anemic, stopped eating and died.

I think Guy is adjusting ok as Meghan said he's been in UK for awhile now and is doing great.

Pranter 11-28-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FashionMaven (Post 2043003)
What a difficult decision though, parting with a long term pet.

I once sat with a friend when her cat was euthanized. It was so sad. So I can understand Meghan not wanting to risk Bogart's health. I hope the other dog doesn't get heart sick without his/her buddy. I lost a puppy once who got so heart sick after our neighbor's dog (and her play date) died, that she became anemic, stopped eating and died.

I haven't had a pet since - too hurt by it all.


It's awful when you have to make the decision to put one down. We recently had to do this with a 17 year old cat we'd had since he was 6 months old.

He's not the first one and won't be the last though, we still love having pets. We have 2 dogs now, fish and soon to add a bird and 2 ponies for the grandkids. It's always a bittersweet thing.


LaRae

Dman 11-28-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2042971)
Emily Andrews asked about Christmas at Sandringham and expected to be told only married couples are allow, but to her surprise, the answer was that KP will announce Christmas plans in the coming weeks.

https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/s...51230226714626

She could spend Christmas with her family or she could spend Christmas with the royal family. Kensington Palace will let the media know.

American Observer7 11-28-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dman (Post 2043033)
She could spend Christmas with her family or she could spend Christmas with the royal family. Kensington Palace will let the media know.


Many of you seem to forget that Meghan has a mother and a father to spend Christmas with. Her parents may not be welcomed until after she and Harry are married. She is NOT going to leave her mother alone on Christmas to spend with the royals.

evolvingdoors 11-28-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24 (Post 2042960)
Why did she go down several levels. :ermm: It's highly unlikely she would've left Bogart behind while moving Guy to UK if they are both fit to travel. Royal reporters were reporting that it was due to health reasons.

Okay we're probably vying off subject i'll give a quick answer:
I consider adopting a pet a commitment, a promise, ones make to that furbaby for the entire life of that pet. you do not abandon family, your children- be it human or furry ones.

I find it extra irritating and hrutful being someone who just relocated to the other side of the globe with a cancer sick cat (plus four healthy ones) I moved heaven and earth for her, spend thousands of dollars (and I do not have the financial mean Meghan has), there was no question when I relocated to the other side of the world (twice in 6 years) that the cats are coming with me - no matter what.

bogart is not even 10 years old.
I did a quick google search- because finding information is my thing and i remembered reading this blob about the dogs a couple months ago: How Ellen DeGeneres Convinced Meghan Markle to Adopt a Dog + More Facts From Our May Cover Star | Best Health Magazine Canada

He was 3 years old when this interview was done, Guy was about 4-5 (so he's actually older), The tig was already up and running (and it was only 3 years old when she closed it), so this interview had to have been done about 2-3 years ago.
So Bogart is actually about 7 years old, 8 at most.

No offense but if I was able to get the okay and bring my cancer sick cat (who is a year younger than Bogart) with me (though not to the UK), I can't even think of a reason she wouldn't.
While pets as big as Bogart usually need to fly in cargo, when flying via charter flight or bringing a pet via sea that is not needed and they can travel in Cabin.
and he is not among the problematic to fly breeds (like pugs and other short snot)

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...for-pet-travel

So I have a hard time understanding why the dog was left behind. Something just doesn't add up.
Honestly knowing how big the brits are about animal welfare, if he really was unable to join her in the UK due to health reasons she should have been the one to say it during the interview and not leave the PR team to handle it. her dog, her responsibility to provide the explanation.

So yes, I still like her in general, i'm sure she's an overall good person having been able to win Harry's heart. And no doubt this was a hard decision to make, but she made it none the less, I volunteered in shelters, the "health issues" is not reason, that being said I have heard worse.
hopefully where he has landed will truly be his Forever Home.
Sadly dogs who tend to get rehomed once are likely to find themselves rehomed again.

jacqui24 11-28-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by American Observer7 (Post 2043039)
Many of you seem to forget that Meghan has a mother and a father to spend Christmas with. Her parents may not be welcomed until after she and Harry are married. She is NOT going to leave her mother alone on Christmas to spend with the royals.

We didnít forget. KP couldíve given a clear answer as they did with other questions, but purposefully kept this issue open even though there is a precedent in place. Given this, itís not out of line to think they might make certain changes to accommodate the coupleís specific situation.

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Originally Posted by evolvingdoors (Post 2043081)
Okay we're probably vying off subject i'll give a quick answer:
I consider adopting a pet a commitment, a promise, ones make to that furbaby for the entire life of that pet. you do not abandon family, your children- be it human or furry ones....

Bogart is an rescue, so we donít really know his lineage, and a lot of times, dogs do have genetic predisposition that causes early onset of disability or illness. We donít know what happened, but what is clear is that Meghan loves her dogs and couldíve moved Bogart to U.K. if she could like she has done with Guy. I donít think itíd be appropriate for them to ask KP for any further details as it might pour salt on the wound for Meghan since sheís had Bogart since he was a baby.


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