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Pranter 08-28-2016 07:59 AM

Queen Victoria Coronet Could Go Overseas Without UK Buyer: August 2016
 
Queen Victoria coronet could go overseas without UK buyer - BT

A coronet worn by Queen Victoria and designed by her beloved husband Albert could be exported unless a UK buyer can be found for the multi-million pound piece of jewellery.


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I am trying to figure out why the BRF wouldn't of bought this for their own collection.



LaRae

Iluvbertie 08-28-2016 08:00 AM

I suppose that they believe that they have enough and don't want it.

Pranter 08-28-2016 08:11 AM

I just thought for purposes of history (and I think it's quite pretty) they would want it.


LaRae

Skippyboo 08-28-2016 08:37 AM

6 million pounds is a pretty steep price tag. If Queen Mary thought it was super important she would not have given to her daughter and kept it herself.


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Dman 08-28-2016 08:42 AM

I'm telling you, Queen Mary would snatch that coronet up so fast it would make the sellers head spin. She would probably break it up or expand it, but she would get it. If I was a member of the family and, could afford to get it, I would.

Pranter 08-28-2016 08:49 AM

That's how I think about it too Dman....kinda puzzled it's even on the market. It's historical, lovely and of great value. Not like the BRF doesn't have the means to purchase it.


LaRae

Dman 08-28-2016 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippyboo (Post 1919963)
6 million pounds is a pretty steep price tag. If Queen Mary thought it was super important she would not have given to her daughter and kept it herself.


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I'm not sure Queen Mary would've thought her daughters family would put Victoria's coronet on the market.

The British royals have let go some of the most beautiful jewels though. It's a mistake to pass them down to family members who can't afford to hold on to them.

Princess Margaret should've given her Politmore Tiara over to The Queen when she fell sick. Instead she left it to her family who would've never used it, which is why they didn't have a problem selling it. Now it's gone forever.

Pranter 08-28-2016 08:53 AM

Wouldn't it look fantastic with some of the other Sapphire jewelry already in the BRF collection? Kate could pull this Coronet off very well.


LaRae

Skippyboo 08-28-2016 08:56 AM

Queen Mary would have talked the owner into giving it to her not buying it. Lots of jewelry given to non monarchical lines of the family have been sold. The Queen can't buy every thing back.

When did Princess Mary sell it? Did she offer to her brother or niece to keep it the Royal jewels?


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Rudolph 08-28-2016 09:25 AM

This is why the York girls will never be given tiaras. I think it's stupid for Princess Anne to have her own tiaras as Zara and Peter will just end up selling them off like Margaret's children did. The Kents sold off most of their jewels.

A shame to see such a historic tiara like this leave the country

Dman 08-28-2016 10:35 AM

It goes to show that The Queen don't have much interest in jewels like her late grandmother.

I still hope the Teck Circlet and necklace is or will end up in The Queen's possession. It would be a tragedy to see it go too.

Pranter 08-28-2016 11:03 AM

I know the Queen can't buy everything back...but I would think there are some more important or special pieces that should remain within the family.


LaRae

PetticoatLane 08-28-2016 11:07 AM

I'm hopeful that there will be a campaign to save the coronet. I'm one of the thousands who recently donated to the successful campaign on the part of The Art Fund and Royal Museums Greenwich to save the iconic Armada portrait of Queen Elizabeth I:

Armada Portrait Of Elizabeth I Saved For The Nation | Royal Museums Greenwich

I would have no problem donating to a campaign to save this piece of our history.

If it can't go back to the Royal Collection, the Victoria and Albert Museum would be the best place for it IMO.

ashelen 08-28-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 1919987)
I know the Queen can't buy everything back...but I would think there are some more important or special pieces that should remain within the family.


LaRae

I agree! lol If I would have the money I would get for me..............:lol:

duke of poliganc 08-28-2016 11:56 AM

even if the queen want to buy the piece back to the family i can't imagine the criticism she will face for buying something with that price

Jacknch 08-28-2016 12:05 PM

The coronets a beautiful piece of jewellery - I've always liked diamond and sapphire tiaras and seeing these jewels in a coronet is a real treat. So I hope it can remain in the UK and displayed.

tommy100 08-28-2016 12:11 PM

IMO the only way this tiara will make its way back to the RF now will be if the Royal Collection find a way to buy it. I'm not saying they will but its more likely they will purchase it as an important piece of historic royal jewellery rather than the Queen buying it for the RF to wear (the criticism would be far too much). That being said if the Royal Collection were to purchase it I'm sure there wouldn't be too much of a fuss if one of the royal ladies wore it out once or twice.

gerry 08-28-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy100 (Post 1920002)
IMO the only way this tiara will make its way back to the RF now will be if the Royal Collection find a way to buy it. I'm not saying they will but its more likely they will purchase it as an important piece of historic royal jewellery rather than the Queen buying it for the RF to wear (the criticism would be far too much). That being said if the Royal Collection were to purchase it I'm sure there wouldn't be too much of a fuss if one of the royal ladies wore it out once or twice.

Five million pounds is a not insignificant 'chunk of change' that the Royal Collection would have difficulty justifying when faced with the possibility of acquiring this historically important jewelry. With a view to the huge costs of maintaining the Royal Collection, I do not believe we need to look here to save this piece for the British nation. I would think that a 'crowd funding' activity along the lines of the the Armada portrait example would be in order. The most interesting question is: who will take this on? Will we wait and see?:bang: On second thought, I also find the quoted price quite exorbitant, (I have admittedly little experience with the purchase of tiaras, historically important or otherwise:) and wonder if there is more to this story than meets the eye?

tommy100 08-28-2016 01:31 PM

I have no doubt the Royal Collection would have to fundraise to raise anywhere near the funds required but ultimately it might be the best organization to do so. It would be a big change for the Royal Collection who don't often buy up royal items but I can' think of another item so closely associated with a sovereign. I would rather see it go to them than some rich Russian or Middle Eastern sheik.

Mbruno 08-28-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pranter (Post 1919987)
I know the Queen can't buy everything back...but I would think there are some more important or special pieces that should remain within the family.


LaRae

Most of the royal jewels from the Victorian era are already part of the Royal Collection anyway, i.e. they belong to the British state and cannot be sold or auctioned off. The "newer" pieces that were acquired by the Royal Family in the 20th century (mostly at Queen Mary's time) are the ones that are mostly privately owned.


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