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iceflower 11-07-2014 04:19 AM

Crown Prince Frederik, Current Events Part 5: November 2014 - November 2015
 
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Roskilde 11-07-2014 05:59 AM

My guess is that Frederik have slept at Marselisborg castle this night. He held the royal hunt in Western Jutland yesterday and today he has events throughout the day in Jutland again.

First event is in Aarhus where he this morning (rigth now, actually) will be responsible for the official opening of the student event "Aarhus Symposium". Subsequently he drives to Aalborg, where he in the afternoon will inaugurate the new education campus "On the Trail" before he returns to Copenhagen.

Read more about his first event here:
Åbning af Aarhus Symposium 2014 - Kongehuset

:previous:

"A royal welcome" in Aarhus
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B11JpIDCEAACtzY.jpg:large

Now it's my turn to say it: He's a attractive man.


ADDED:


A video of Frederik arriving:
http://www.tv2oj.dk/artikel/233264:A...en-besOeger-AU

polyesco 11-07-2014 01:10 PM

A very attractive man,
a few more pictures of him speaking
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B11pEUWIgAIqDoo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B11i42nIUAEVN9N.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B11ffSiIcAEulaq.jpg

added:
Aarhus Uni Alumni ‏@AUAlumni 4h4 hours ago #AU2014 "Tak for i dag", Prince Frederik leaves after giving back to @AarhusUni @AarhusSymposium pic.twitter.com/32R9VihqI6

Aarhus Symposium 2014: His Royal Highness the Crown Prince of Denmark - YouTube

video of his arrival and speech

Muhler 11-07-2014 01:21 PM

And here is a a video from the local news: TV 2 | ØSTJYLLAND | Kronprinsen besøger AU | Nyheder | Aarhus
Of Frederik arriving. I hear that Frederik is addressed with informal you, I also believe I've seen the man who recieves him before.
Anyway, Frederik remains close to one professor in particular at Aarhus University. Can't remember his name.

I thought the two of you only preferred Frederik dressed in scarlet? :tongue:

But Frederik did indeed dress neatly, obviously having observed his younger brother - who is a perfect gentleman. :cool:

polyesco 11-07-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1717991)

I thought the two of you only preferred Frederik dressed in scarlet? :tongue:

But Frederik did indeed dress neatly, obviously having observed his younger brother - who is a perfect gentleman. :cool:

lets hope Frederik doesnt follow in Joachim's pink pants disaster :eek:

although Frederik looks great in pink
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/176...6TJnBEcbN6GAXL
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dghagDajjD...of_history.jpg

but of course, he looks great in pink, red, blue, green, etc....
in uniform, in tux, in suit, in his beach ensemble that he wore this year :biggrin:,
in hunting clothes, in wet suits, biking attire....i could go on ;)

Frederik graduated from Aarhus university right?

Pictures from his second event
Kronprins Frederik om kramme-robot: Den minder mig om mine børn | www.bt.dk

Campus on Track is an association of social worker as North and adult education & HF, which is housed in the old freight area in the heart of Aalborg.

After the inauguration, the future social and health care workers will be trained, among other things to care for people with dementia, Frederik was shown around the school.

Here he was presented with a robot that is used in the care of dementen. The robot that can both speak and give a hug, being in care, dementia also experience tenderness and closeness.

Frederick was also not afraid to take immediate robot experienced up on the arm when he first looked at it. Then demonstrated the country's future king, he is also the father of four and a highly experienced one of the slain.

more on the event
Indvielse af uddannelsescampus i Aalborg - Kongehuset

added:
another gallery
http://www.nordjyske.dk/artikel/kron...b37c4e9/1/1201
he is in such high spirits

I guess he has a couple of fans
http://imageservice.nordjyske.dk/ima...&bgcolor=black

the pic with the robot is adorable
http://b.bimg.dk/node-images/881/7/1...s-frederik.jpg

Muhler 11-07-2014 03:16 PM

Thanks Polyesco & Roskilde :flowers:

:previous: Wasn't our Marie presented to such a hug-bot recently?

Roskilde 11-07-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyesco (Post 1718008)
Pictures from his second event
Kronprins Frederik om kramme-robot: Den minder mig om mine børn | www.bt.dk

Here he was presented with a robot that is used in the care of dementen. The robot that can both speak and give a hug, being in care, dementia also experience tenderness and closeness.

Frederick was also not afraid to take immediate robot experienced up on the arm when he first looked at it. Then demonstrated the country's future king, he is also the father of four and a highly experienced one of the slain.

added:
another gallery
Kronprins beundrer nordjysk samarbejde | Nordjyske.dk
he is in such high spirits

That's some nice galleries of Frederiks events today, thanks Polyesco :flowers: He's in his element.

The BT article says that Frederik in the best new born baby style laid the robot's head on his shoulder like a baby who had to burp while he delighted said: "It reminds me of my children when they were babies" :)

Here is one more video:
TV2/Nord | VIDEO: Kronprinsen krammer dukke | Nordjylland | Regionale nyheder

Although I'm skeptical about all personal qualities in the future will be replaced by robots.

MidwestMom 11-09-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyesco (Post 1717997)
lets hope Frederik doesnt follow in Joachim's pink pants disaster :eek:

although Frederik looks great in pink
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/176...6TJnBEcbN6GAXL
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dghagDajjD...of_history.jpg

but of course, he looks great in pink, red, blue, green, etc....
in uniform, in tux, in suit, in his beach ensemble that he wore this year :biggrin:,
in hunting clothes, in wet suits, biking attire....i could go on ;)

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How about a kilt? At some time in the future, we may see Christian and Vincent in one, owing to their mother's Scottish heritage. We'll probably never see Fred in one, though. Too bad.

Roskilde 11-10-2014 03:53 AM

Here a one more nice gallery of Frederiks events:

Kronprins beundrer nordjysk samarbejde | Nordjyske.dk

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And yes, it could so fun to see Frederik in a kilt. The chance we at some point will see Christian and Vincent in kilt is indeed big.

Galleries from Kongehuset.dk

Opening the educational campus 'On the Track' in Aalborg:
Indvielse af Campus "På Sporet" - Kongehuset

Opening of the "Leadership and Strategy" Symposium in Aarhus:
Åbning af Aarhus Symposium - Kongehuset

iceflower 11-17-2014 04:51 PM

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Posts about Crown Prince Frederik presenting the Davis Cup Commitment Award in his capacity as Patron of the Danish Tennis Federation have been moved to the "Crown Prince Frederik's Patronages and Charities"-thread.

polyesco 11-19-2014 02:52 PM

Frederik today awards the Creative Business Cup
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...44&oe=54D3FB02

meeting participants and being shown around
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2zpERXIgAAe-OQ.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2zo03uIIAAk3T1.jpg:large

Article and 3 more pics of Frederik with the winners
The world's best creative entrepreneurs announced in Copenhagen | Creative Business Cup

H.R.H. Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark presented the awards to the world's best creative entrepreneurs at the Tivoli Hotel & Congress Center in Copenhagen today. CTAdventure from Poland won the first prize


He looks fantastic:smile:
another pic
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...efd779a52f6e0f

looks like a great atmosphere

Roskilde 11-20-2014 10:09 AM

:previous:

Her are more pictures from Frederik's event today:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...9420b0e0a0b077
https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/...34&oe=54E1F861
https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/...73&oe=54E242AD

Gallery from Kongehuset.dk:

Prisoverrækkelse ved Creative Business Cup - Kongehuset

Muhler 11-20-2014 10:30 AM

Annoyingly all that has recieved next to no coverage in the Danish papers.

Frederik is often getting some heat for only dealing with sports, and not taking more heavy subjects. Well, he is actually, but business and trade and men in suits are not sexy, so little coverage. - Because as every newspaper editor knows, we the readers, are stupid, we can't comprehend all that commerce something-whatever-stuff and if we could, we are not interested anyway...

So Frederik remains a bit unserious in the eyes of too many.

Frederik attending so many sports events, especially with schools, may turn out to be a very sound PR-policy on the long run.
Because Frederik is extremely good face to face and letting the future subjects get to know him, while they are young is a good idea.
The monarch of my generation is QMII, but the monarch of my children is Frederik. So yes, he might just as well start grooming them. And doing a good job at it BTW.

polyesco 11-20-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1721974)
Annoyingly all that has recieved next to no coverage in the Danish papers.

Frederik is often getting some heat for only dealing with sports, and not taking more heavy subjects. Well, he is actually, but business and trade and men in suits are not sexy, so little coverage. - Because as every newspaper editor knows, we the readers, are stupid, we can't comprehend all that commerce something-whatever-stuff and if we could, we are not interested anyway...

So Frederik remains a bit unserious in the eyes of too many.

Frederik attending so many sports events, especially with schools, may turn out to be a very sound PR-policy on the long run.
Because Frederik is extremely good face to face and letting the future subjects get to know him, while they are young is a good idea.
The monarch of my generation is QMII, but the monarch of my children is Frederik. So yes, he might just as well start grooming them. And doing a good job at it BTW.

I agree.
This is the frustrating part.
His event on Monday that had a connection to sports got a lot of press but this one that deals with Business doesnt get much :bang:

a shame that some only see that aspect of him, but it was nice to see the recent poll I forget where, where Danes choose him as the best representative of the DRF. :flowers:
Also, from their recent economic trips, people in the business sector have pointed out how knowledgeable his is and the impact he creates having him be present.
And involving kids in sports and fitness/health living is a great cause. It stirs the youth to a healthier path. :flowers:

polyesco 12-02-2014 01:47 PM

Today, Crown Prince attends a board meeting of the DIF. House of Sports, Brøndby Stadion 20, Brøndby pm. 14:00.

"DIF is an organization that has existed for more than 100 years, and over the years there have been more and more federations, so DIF family today consists of 61 sports federations, over 9,000 sports clubs and more than 1.9 million active members."

let us hope for at least one picture : D

Roskilde 12-03-2014 03:12 PM

:previous:

You have written it several times and you're right ... Suits and serious meetings (which several of Frederik's events are) gets embarrassingly poor coverage. His events with children, sports or other more colorful stuff get good coverage. Maybe we should tip at least BB that we have nothing against seeing just a little coverage also from Frederik's more serious events? Not, that they are different when it comes to the other poor royal men...

ADDED:
Have actually just written a little note to BB haha... Don't know if I have done it the right way.

Another thing we rarely hear about or get coverage from is the meetings and Council of State meetings Frederik participates in together with Margrethe. I don't understand the difficulty of writing him in the calendar alongside Margrethe.

Anyway, here's pictures from last Wednesday where Frederik as usual participated in the State Council together with Margrethe at Christiansborg Palace:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...d19aa29dd845ac
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...c6c1d7731af327

polyesco 12-03-2014 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roskilde (Post 1725682)
:previous:

You have written it several times and you're right ... Suits and serious meetings (which several of Frederik's events are) gets embarrassingly poor coverage. His events with children, sports or other more colorful stuff get good coverage. Maybe we should tip at least BB that we have nothing against seeing just a little coverage also from Frederik's more serious events? Not, that they are different when it comes to the other poor royal men...

ADDED:
Have actually just written a little note to BB haha... Don't know if I have done it the right way.

Another thing we rarely hear about or get coverage from is the meetings and Council of State meetings Frederik participates in together with Margrethe. I don't understand the difficulty of writing him in the calendar alongside Margrethe.

Anyway, here's pictures from last Wednesday where Frederik as usual participated in the State Council together with Margrethe at Christiansborg Palace:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...d19aa29dd845ac
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...c6c1d7731af327


agree with you 100%
Their calendar and website needs improvement. Listing him in these meetings, would be step one

thank you for the pictures
Something is better than nothing :flowers:

iceflower 12-08-2014 05:19 PM

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Posts about Crown Prince Frederik attending the IOC Session in Monaco have been moved to the extra thread: Crown Prince Frederik as a Member of the IOC.

polyesco 12-12-2014 07:18 PM

Another picture of Frederik at the Creative Business Cup
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aBrNMA_e53...B2014%2B5a.jpg

I just love that he makes time for the Aussie teams/groups
and that smile : D

Roskilde 12-13-2014 09:24 AM

:previous:
Nice picture, Polyesco.

He is good to that. To always visit the Australian team no matter where and what it's about. I don't even think it's out of duty, but because Frederik simply feels Australia is a part of him.

polyesco 12-15-2014 12:18 PM

:previous:I think so too Roskilde

I'll put this note here...as we know Frederik and Mary were suppose to do a trip to Japan with a special Greenland Delegation, due to some special elections the trip was canceled,
Nevertheless, On 6 December 2014, The 4th International Forum, Future City Initiative was held in Japan an international conference to discuss green energy and sustainability, here the Ambassador of Denmark to Japan delivered a speech that included a message from Frederik (who we know visited Japan in 2011 after the Tsunami)

Crown Prince Frederik stated that he would never forget his visit in 2011: “Meeting the people of Higashi-Matsushima and listening to their heart-breaking stories of personal losses deeply moved me deeply”. He added that he was also “amazed by the stoic determination of the city’s inhabitants to move on and rebuild their lives as well as their city”. He concluded his message by expressing the hope that the Future City Forum would be successful – “to the benefit of a rebuilt Higashi-Matsushima and all other cities of the future in Japan”.

article and speech
His Royal Highness Crown Prince Frederik sends message to Japanese city
http://japan.um.dk/en/~/media/japan/...Matsushima.pdf

polyesco 01-08-2015 03:02 PM

Not sure why this is not on the official DRF calendar :bang: but tomorrow, January 9th, the queen will hold an audience with the new minister for Domestic Affairs of Greenland.
After the audience with the Queen, the new minister will pay a visit to Frederik.

Nanoq - Høflighedsvisit hos HKH Kronprinsen

:flowers:

Roskilde 01-10-2015 10:24 AM

:previous: It's nothing new, isn't it... I still don't understand the idea of not writing all his events in the calendar. But nor is Margrethes audience written in the calendar. Don't know for what reason.

Anyway, Frederik will tonight participate in DR's live television show "Sport 2014" and he will during the show hands out the prize "Denmark's Olympic hope" to a young Danish sports talent. "Sport 2014" celebrates Danish athletes and awarded prizes to the athletes who have excelled in the past sport year.

?Sport 2014? - Kongehuset

There's just one little thing... Denmark is currently affected by severe storms and hurricanes. And Frederik will have to travel from Zealand to Jutland where the show takes place. I heard on the news that the Storebælt Bridge is closed (the bridge you have to pass to get from Zealand to Jutland), and the ferry route between Zealand and Jutland has been canceled due to the weather as well. Perhaps he's lucky to catch a flight.

Muhler 01-10-2015 11:12 AM

:previous: You are right. He may have to cancel.

Vejrkort: DMI While there is a lull over Herning from 16.00-19.00 or so, there is still storm over Kattegat and I would think it irresponsible to launch a helicopter for such a non-essential flight.
But perhaps he managed to slip across the bridge before they closed it, but I think he will have to spend the night at Marselisborg.

FasterB 01-10-2015 12:04 PM

Perhaps the wholw CP-family left yesterday to spend the weekend at Marselisborg :)

Roskilde 01-10-2015 01:39 PM

You were right, Muhler.
According to this article Frederik managed to cross the bridge just before it was closed so he has reached Herning in time:

jv.dk - Nyheder - Sport - Sport 2014: Camilla Pedersen hilser på Kronprins Frederik

A large picture of Frederik when he arrived to the show:

http://www.jyllands-posten.dk/premiu...nary/kronprins
Hvad 2015 gerne må bringe i sportens verden - Sport

ADDED:
Frederik has just been on stage to present the award "Denmark's Olympic hope."

Muhler 01-10-2015 02:47 PM

Thanks, Roskilde.

But he ain't going back this side of midnight at the very earliest.
It's pretty windy around here now - a neighbor down the road has lost parts of the roof.

BB has some more on Frederik: http://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige...-verdensmester
Here presenting a prize to a cyclist, Camilla Pedersen, who has returned, and returned very well indeed, after a nasty fall just a little over a year ago.
Frederik said: "You (informal you) have been an inspiration for many".

Camillia on the other hand think Frederik is pretty cool.

polyesco 01-10-2015 03:36 PM

thanks everyone for the information. Hopefully everyone is safe from the storm.

Here is some more information about the prize Frederik will hand out
https://om.kfforsikring.dk/nyheder/k...lympiske-haab/

"- I am both honored and touched that the crown prince follows up with what I'm doing. He's even tough when he has completed an Ironman, said a still impressed Camilla after his first meeting with sport prince."

added:
Two more pictures of Frederik
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7AKjh0CYAIw0ON.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7AE9voCcAA1Zwz.jpg:large

Muhler 01-11-2015 04:01 AM

Another picture of Frederik from Herning: http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/152/8/2...sport-2014.jpg

Was he on TV last night?

More on Frederik in Herning: Vidner: Kronprinsens bil kørte over stormlukket Storebæltsbro - Danmark | www.bt.dk

According to BT several motorists waiting for the Great Belt Bridge to be opened saw Frederik's car drive across the bridge at around 02.29. The bridge was opened for traffic again at 04.00.

The bridge was closed Saturday afternoon because some cars had been blown up to a meter to the side by the wind while passing the bridge.
We have later learned that Frederik passed the bridge shortly before it was closed.

People observed Frederik's car (Crown 7) arrive at the bridge escorted by patrol cars. They stopped at the bridge and Frederik's car and the escorting PET car continued over the bridge. But these cars are fairly heavy with very experienced drivers, so I doubt Frederik was in any particular danger.
However this is one of the longest periods the Great Belt Bridge has been closed due to bad weather.

The agency responsible for the bridge will not comment.
The police responsible for closing the bridge will not comments.
PET will not comment.

- It was a pretty windy storm we had yesterday and this night, but fortunately without causing too serious damage. The rising water will cause a lot of damage in the day to come, but that's another matter. After half the North Sea has blown into the Baltic Sea.

ashelen 01-11-2015 05:06 PM

I am glad he made it safe! and he went anyway with bad weather , this tell us something! he didn't said "oh it is too windy , im not going!"
good for him! although I think Mary was nervous!

polyesco 01-11-2015 09:17 PM

is there any controversy over Frederik's car been allowed to go through? Was it on his way to the event or after?

video of the intro to the show
we can see Frederik receive a high five
VIDEO Se den storslåede åbningsceremoni fra Sport 2014 | Sport | DR

video of the end of the show
VIDEO Takkesangen til de frivillige | Sport | DR
Frederik covered in confetti checking his phone
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7BOAoTCEAEywY2.jpg:large

added:
frederik on stage
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7BDeKWCcAAMQNq.jpg

Muhler 01-12-2015 09:53 AM

:previous: Oh yes, there is! - Well, at least in the tabloids. I don't know how many ordinary people cares.
As I see it. If Frederik wish to risk his neck to get home by insisting on driving across a closed bridge in the middle of a storm it's his neck and his problem.

Kronprinsen lægger sig fladt ned efter BTs afsløring: Undskyld - Danmark | www.bt.dk
Actually, the court has issued a statement saying that it was a wrong decision by Frederik to drive across a closed bridge, not once but twice. Because he also crossed the bridge in the afternoon when it had just been closed.
The statement reads: The Crown Princee is sorry that it happened and (he) can well understand that the situation caused additional frustrations and anger among the people who had been waiting for many hours to cross the bridge. It was a wrong decision to accept te opportunity for the car to continue and the Crown Prince regrets that".

- Excellent! In my opinion that was the best possible thing he could do.

More so because Frederik actually, shall we say, interpreted the truth upon arriving in Herning where he told reporters that they made it (crossed the bridge) just before closing.
Kronprinsen fanget i at tale usandt om brotur: 'Vi nåede det lige et minut i lukketid' - Danmark | www.bt.dk

Frederik crossed the bridge twice: Nye oplysninger: Kronprinsen kørte TO gange over Storebælt - første gang uden tilladelse - Danmark | www.bt.dk
At 15.15 where he proceeded across the bridge without formal permission.

And again at night where he had been given permission by the local police to cross.

- Now you perhaps begin to understand why we Danes are often labelled the happiest people in the world. If a thing like that can cause headlines, our problems are few indeed. :tongue:

ADDED: http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2015/01/12/132254.htm

PET will now review the procedures ensuring that in the future there will be no crossing of closed bridges during a storm. - If for no other reason than not to endanger rescue workers should there be an accident on a bridge during a storm, presumably. But also, I guess, to ensure the person they are protecting isn't killed by mother nature.

ADDED AGAIN:
http://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige...erjysk-sygehus

More details are emerging. It turns out that PET was in contact with the local police when the Saturday afternoon arrived at the bridge. The local police prohibited Frederik and his escort from crossing the bridge and said so to the PET officers. They were however allowed to cross the barriers for safety reasons. (more room to manouvre). But once they had crossed the barrier, both cars sped up and continued across the bridge.
The same thing apparently happened at night on the way back. Once past the barrier the cars sped up and continued over the bridge.

- Whether that happened because the PET officers on duty were too obliging towards Frederik or whether Frederik asked the PET officers to "fix it" is an open question.

FasterB 01-12-2015 11:29 AM

I truly believes that it wasn´t up to CP Frederik to decide whether to drive across the bridge or not.

I think it was PET´s choice.

wyevale 01-12-2015 12:18 PM

Bad boy Frederick has [probably for the very first time] made it onto the BBC radio 4 news, with this latest escapade...

polyesco 01-12-2015 12:22 PM

I guess some in the media love to jump on anything Frederik does wrong.
Another article
Borgerlige forsvarer kronprinsen: - Hvad er problemet? | Politik
I agree with some that say this is no big deal, and there are more important things to worry about.

I guess the easy thing would have been for him to cancel his visit (but of course some in the media would have love to criticize him for that) or stay at a hotel for the night (which im sure he would have also been criticized for as well)

Whether it was his decision or PET, its nice that the court made a statement, hopefully some in the media can move on ;)

another pic of him on stage
http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/158/8/6...sport-2014.jpg

Another article, which i only bring because of the picture of Frederik (lovely smile) and this fine statement
"Trine Villemann, an author who has written critically on the Danish Royal House, said the crown prince made an epic blunder. "

this is "epic"? lol
Prince Frederik slammed for 'irresponsible' trip - The Local

reading the danish media, its a little frustrating that this has some great coverage, even on Politiken online, and yet many of his other events are left without a note : ( :bang:

its like they are making a mountain over a molehill. On twitter and reading the comments many people seem to agree that coverage on this has been ridiculous, right or wrong, the court made a statement on Frederik's behalf (which i think was good)

on twitter many Danes seem to make fun of the situation and poking fun of the media coverage, people have been saying stuff like "first world problems" and "never forget" :tongue:

I like these pictures poking fun of "storm bridge gate"
https://twitter.com/GoldenlionDK/sta...920512/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7J5v6pIIAAPdwZ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7KHAk9IgAAtPzZ.jpg

Lee-Z 01-12-2015 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyevale (Post 1740180)
Bad boy Frederick has [probably for the very first time] made it onto the BBC radio 4 news, with this latest escapade...

...and onto the dutch (gossip) media as well... :lol:

amaryllus 01-12-2015 12:34 PM

The only issue I have is he potentially risked the lives of rescue personnel. I bet his wife and mother gave him a earful for this stunt though. Upset Mothers and wives have a way of making you not do dumb things again:rofl:

MidwestMom 01-12-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amaryllus (Post 1740188)
The only issue I have is he potentially risked the lives of rescue personnel. I bet his wife and mother gave him a earful for this stunt though. Upset Mothers and wives have a way of making you not do dumb things again:rofl:

Totally agree! I'll be interesting to see what, if anything, QMII has to say about it.

Admiral Horthy 01-12-2015 02:00 PM

Certain positions or jobs give a person certain privileges. Unless the crossing the bridge endangered the CPs life this is much ado about nothing.

As this individual said:
Quote:

Leading opposition party Venstre, however, had no problem with the crown prince’s trip over the bridge.
“We should acknowledge that there is a difference between the royals and the rest of us,” party spokesman Karsten Nonbo told TV2 News.

amaryllus 01-12-2015 02:08 PM

I would venture to say she was more worried for the danger he might have put himself him than headlines...when you have been monarch for decades these kind of minor controversies and criticisms are par for the course and are will be forgotten soon enough.As a mother and human watching Beatrix lost her son through a foolish action Margrethe could easily put herself in B's shoes.

tommy100 01-12-2015 02:44 PM

I think it's bad if he crossed after being told by the police not to as it sets a bad example that it doesn't matter what the police say he's riyal and will do what he wants.
But equally no one died and there are bigger more horrific things in the world. Love to hear what QMII has to say about it lol

Muhler 01-12-2015 02:53 PM

Good grief! They had almost five minutes of this on prime time news tonight!

With terrorrism and the freedom of speech under attack, this is headline news? :bang:

Was it stupid? Yes, it was. Frederik has admitted that. Now move on. It wasn't a DUI or anything like that.

Well, according to the newspaper Politiken, the bug has ended at PET. Hoffet giver PET skylden for kronprinsens bro-bisseri - Politiken.dk

Lene Balleby from the court says: "This is the responsibility of the police. The Crown Prince does not have and should not have influence on how transport and security is handled in the most prudent manner and he (Frederik) didn't in this matter".

And in Danish:
Det her er politiets ansvar. Kronprinsen har ikke og skal ikke have indflydelse på, hvordan transport og sikkerhed varetages mest hensigtsmæssigt, og det havde han heller ikke i dette tilfælde

amaryllus 01-12-2015 03:10 PM

Yes, protection officers are charged with protection not going along with any unwise action or decision of their charges. They have to be firm.

tommy100 01-12-2015 03:10 PM

To be fair I doubt they tied Frederick down to the car and are him cross the bridge

dazzling 01-12-2015 03:28 PM

Unfortunate act by the Crown Prince. PET officers should be following police orders rule. There was a reason why people couldn't cross. this time nothing happened but maybe next something does.

polyesco 01-12-2015 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1740238)
Good grief! They had almost five minutes of this on prime time news tonight!

With terrorsism and the freedom of speech under attack, this is headline news? :bang:

Was it stupid? Yes, it was. Frederik has admitted that. Now move on. It wasn't a DUI or anything like that.

Well, accroding to the newspaper Politiken, the bug has ended at PET. Hoffet giver PET skylden for kronprinsens bro-bisseri - Politiken.dk

Lene Balleby from the court says: "This is the responsibillity of the police. The Crown Prince does not hane and should not have influence on how transport and security is handled in the most prudent manner and he (Frederik) didn't in this matter".

And in Danish:
Det her er politiets ansvar. Kronprinsen har ikke og skal ikke have indflydelse på, hvordan transport og sikkerhed varetages mest hensigtsmæssigt, og det havde han heller ikke i dette tilfælde

so Frederik didnt interfere?
I cant see him going against the advice of his PET officers.
Im glad the DRF responded and not just ignored,
But hopefully the Danish monarchy can survive this "epic" scandal ;):rofl:

Fox 01-12-2015 05:32 PM

Frederik really wanted to salute the event in herning. That is admirable. I guess going home he thought it went well the first time...

But his action is very out of the Danish character.

It is not acceptable to skip in a line.
And it is not acceptable to break security rules.

We Danes always wait for the green light, before passing a road.....

This will emerge into a big scandal IMO.

Muhler 01-12-2015 06:05 PM

Well, I prefer to look at it in a positive light.

If this is considered a "crisis" for the DRF, then we certainly have a very well-behaved royal family here in DK.

amaryllus 01-12-2015 06:11 PM

If this counts as a royal scandal this truly must be a shiny happy country. teenage prostitutes? Real estate fraud? Potential military coup? Illegimate kids? Small potatoes! We have prince who crossed a bridge without permission.

polyesco 01-12-2015 06:21 PM

From reading the online comments and on twitter, most seem to make light of the situation (most are Danes)
the statement from the court says that Frederik didnt intervene on PET matters, I guess if the PET officers saw it as a huge security risk they wouldnt have done it.
all in all, the court commented on this issue right away which was good.

if this does become a huge scandal then i guess the DRF was already on a rocky road (i dont think so)

FasterB 01-12-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1740283)
Frederik really wanted to salute the event in herning. That is admirable. I guess going home he thought it went well the first time...

But his action is very out of the Danish character.

It is not acceptable to skip in a line.
And it is not acceptable to break security rules.

We Danes always wait for the green light, before passing a road.....

This will emerge into a big scandal IMO.

That´s not true. I see that you come from CPH, then you know that people on bike alwyas turn right without waiting for the green light.
That people passes a road for red light.
That people skip in line in the bank, at NETTO, getting in the bus

Aso, aso, aso

tommy100 01-12-2015 08:28 PM

The thing that confuses me most is why didn't he stay over nearby anyway regardless of the bridge being closed?
I've looked online(and I may be getting completely the wrong place) but it seems it takes a good 3 hours to get to either Copenhagen (if he went back to Amalienborg) or Fredensborg. Given that he didn't leave until 1am surely it would have made more sense for him to stay over?
Even if he wanted to be back home ASAP he could have got up early and driven back? Marselisborg Palace is only an hour away so even that would may have made more sense to me.

Archduchess Zelia 01-12-2015 08:29 PM

I agree with Lene Balleby on this one. Frederik is not in charge of his own security and while it most certainly was a wrong action, it wasn't his fault. That he then decides to tell reporters at Sport 2014 that he made it over before Storebæltsbroen closed... that is seriously unwise and a major gaffe from his side – he should have refrained from answering at all or avoided the question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1740283)
Frederik really wanted to salute the event in herning. That is admirable. I guess going home he thought it went well the first time...

But his action is very out of the Danish character.

It is not acceptable to skip in a line.
And it is not acceptable to break security rules.

We Danes always wait for the green light, before passing a road.....

This will emerge into a big scandal IMO.

Haha, which part of Copenhagen do you come from? I've attended several schools in the very centre of Copenhagen for half of my life and Danes are horrible in the traffic – especially in Copenhagen. If I had a krone for every time I witness people run a late yellow-early red light (cars and pedestrians, both), talking on the phone while they're driving etc. on an average day walking from Nørreport to my school, I'd be a millionaire in no time. I completely agree with FasterB, this is not true at all.

ashelen 01-12-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amaryllus (Post 1740219)
I would venture to say she was more worried for the danger he might have put himself him than headlines...when you have been monarch for decades these kind of minor controversies and criticisms are par for the course and are will be forgotten soon enough.As a mother and human watching Beatrix lost her son through a foolish action Margrethe could easily put herself in B's shoes.


If he made it before the bridge closed the first time, I think that it is fine1 but he really should have spent the night where he was, not risking PET lives nor his own. And as you refer Beatrix lost her son thorough foolish action, hope for Fred not to do the same! I think some times this people with a lot of money and power they think nothing will happen to them that they are invencible1 but they forget they are human too! If it was Fred decision I am very disappointed of him! It was an immature and irresponsible action, now if it was Pet it is even worst! shouldn't them to protect the life of the future King?

polyesco 01-12-2015 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amaryllus (Post 1740297)
If this counts as a royal scandal this truly must be a shiny happy country. teenage prostitutes? Real estate fraud? Potential military coup? Illegimate kids? Small potatoes! We have prince who crossed a bridge without permission.

Lol, I think you put things in perspective .

It was a mistake but I think a small one, the court has immediately apologized. Good.
I can't imagine frederik insisting on going through if PET thought it was a security risk.
The court has said frederik doesn't interfere with security matters.

I think the court has handled this well by immediately issuing a statement on Frederik's behalf.
Most online have made fun of this coverage.

I don't think frederik would put his life or the PET officers at risk.
I remember a few years ago frederik attended an event were supposedly a threat had been made against him. Frederik said that if that were true he wouldn't have gone as to not put others life in danger. (Sorry if I have the details wrong)

Frelinghighness 01-12-2015 11:59 PM

Well, ha, for the first time I have heard about the crown prince of Denmark on the radio here in the us! A very quick bit about him crossing a closed bridge and late r apologizing for it, all emphasizing that he used his position to get an easier way. Never heard or seen thm mentioned except maybe a quick mention when the twins were born
Ps it was a light hearted bit of news

Duke of Marmalade 01-13-2015 04:29 AM

its exactly this kind of thing that will get him into trouble, even more so as king: feeling entitled and above the law, doing himself what others are forbidden to wait. if i had to stand in line waiting while the limousine krone7 riding past i knew what to think of the people representing me.
Of course, there is always the funny side of it:
#Brogate: Twitter laver sjov med Kronprinsens tur over Storebælt | Nyheder | DR
http://www.mx.dk/nyheder/danmark/story/14938959
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...9d&oe=55697D75
Flash - Danish prince apologises for crossing bridge in storm - France 24

minstrel2010 01-13-2015 06:07 AM

By now he probably wishes he had never left the Palace at all that day.


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FasterB 01-13-2015 06:42 AM

It wasn´t CP Frederik´s decision to cross the bridge. It was PET who took the desicion. Let´s get that straight.

So I can´t see why all keeps blaiming CP Frederik.

royal rob 01-13-2015 07:26 AM

Golly if that's the worst the danish royal family do I think your doing pretty good.
I'm sure Mary will give him a talking to and he won't do that again


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Terri Terri 01-13-2015 07:47 AM

Even though it was PET that made the decision, Crown Prince Frederik has accepted responsiblity for the decision and apologized. As others have said, if this is the worse "scandal" that the DRF has to face, I am sure that the Spanish and British royal houses would welcome such a "scandal" right now!:lol:

As for this incident being on BBC news, the reporter is Malcolm Brabant, the husband of Trine Villeman. If not for that, this would never have even been mentioned or taken notice of by the BBC!:whistling:

Fox 01-13-2015 12:09 PM

Yes we are not in the league of royal scandals as seen in other countries.

But as for crossing a red light. As I recall, it was Prince Joachim who made fun of the danes not crossing a red light. He said that it is only in Denmark people are standing and looking at the red light even when there is no cars in sight.

And skipping a line is a mortal sin in Denmark. One of the things foreigners has to learn - I even think it is mentioned in a guide to immigrants.

polyesco 01-13-2015 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terri Terri (Post 1740451)
Even though it was PET that made the decision, Crown Prince Frederik has accepted responsiblity for the decision and apologized. As others have said, if this is the worse "scandal" that the DRF has to face, I am sure that the Spanish and British royal houses would welcome such a "scandal" right now!:lol:

As for this incident being on BBC news, the reporter is Malcolm Brabant, the husband of Trine Villeman. If not for that, this would never have even been mentioned or taken notice of by the BBC!:whistling:

Agreed, and nicely put.
ok, he made a mistake, he apologized (even if the blame is not all his)
what more can he do? turn back time?
he apologized, so unless he does it again and again, i dont see the issue
from the reactions you would have thought he ran over someone or something. :ermm:
From following the DRF for a few years now, I dont get the sense of self entitlement in Frederik. Issuing a statement and not just ignoring the situation was good in my mind.

and yes Im having a laugh and so are many others to this bridge "scandal"
my favorite post
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7J5v6pIIAAPdwZ.jpg

MidwestMom 01-13-2015 12:21 PM

It seems the furor is dying down a little. I enjoyed the humorous pictures that were posted. Especially the James Bond-ish one, with Mary hanging onto Fred and the Little Mermaid in the background. :lol:

Muhler was right, there are more serious things going on in Europe right now. By comparison, this is somewhat refreshing - sorry, that's the only word I can think of right now. But it's put Denmark in the news - first the North Pole business, and now bridgegate. There is a certain governor here in the US who has had a 'bridge problem' for some time now. Fred's little escapade will blow over long before his does. BTW, I see your Prime Minister took a fall in Paris. She seems to be all right, though.

Muhler 01-13-2015 01:45 PM

The saga about Frederik's bridge crossing continues: Nye oplysninger: Politiet lod kronprinsen køre over broen | Nyhederne.tv2.dk

DR1 has dug deeper and found out that Frederik and/or PET did cross the bridge without the permission of the local police Saturday afternoon.

However when he crossed the bridge again the night to Sunday, it was with the permission of the local police: Politi lod kronprinsen krydse stormlukket bro | Nyheder | DR
That is, someone within the police gave the permission.

Because according to the log the police at Funen, that's west of the bridge, informed the police in western Zealand, that's east of the bridge, at 01.00 that the crown car with Frederik will pass the bridge once it arrives at the bridge. (Patrol cars from Funen police apparantly escorted Frederik, with sirens and lights flashing). The log then reads that at 02.53 Southern Zealand police informs that Frederik with escort are to be allowed across the bridge. At 03.05 the log reads that Frederik has passed the bridge.

The police commissioner for Southern Zealand police, Steen Nørskov, said Sunday that Frederik had not been granted permission to pass the bridge. He says: "This is news to me. I will of course relate to that. And I will investigate that further at once".

- So it seems like a number of police officers on the spot gave permission for Frederik to pass. Probably in a more or less misunderstood gesture of being obliging to the Crown Prince and/or extending a favor to PET.
In other words: If PET requests permission to pass an otherwise closed bridge and the same PET officers are escorting the Crown Prince, then I think most medium level police officers in charge will snap their heels and grant permission without further questions.

BTW the PM today during her weekly press conference declined to comment further on the Frederik episode except saying that she thought it wise that Frederik issued a public apology early on.

polyesco 01-13-2015 01:49 PM

new reports are coming in that police did give permission for him to cross the bridge
"Survey shows that the police gave the crown prince allowed to cross an otherwise closed Belt Bridge.
As crown prince night of Sunday would run over the otherwise storm closed Belt Bridge, it was the police who allowed him to pass.
It informs the company behind the bridge, Sund & Belt, in a statement to the Ministry of Transport which DR News has had access.
In the report, it appears that the crown prince Saturday at 15:15 arriving at the toll station at halsskov on Funen.
Here he is in agreement with the South Zealand and Lolland-Falster police allowed to run through the system and keep on the other side of the track before the bridge."
Politi gav grønt lys til kronprinsens brotur - Indland
Politiet gav Kronprinsen lov til at krydse lukket Storebæltsbro - Nationalt | www.b.dk
Either way, I still liked that he apologized since it caused frustration among other drivers

Fox 01-13-2015 02:22 PM

This put thing in another perspective, when the police gave their permission.

But Frederik must understand it never is a good idea to skip a line.

Scandal was worldwide, gave us great publicity and must be blown over now.

Muhler 01-13-2015 02:38 PM

And in Daily Mail: Denmark's Prince Frederik apologises after being caught using cordoned-off bridge | Daily Mail Online

That should lead to a chuckle or two among the comments...

Nordic 01-13-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1740553)
But Frederik must understand it never is a good idea to skip a line.

I really dislike it when people "skip the line", but,I really think it's pretty obvious, that people in certain positions do skip the line, are driven straight to entrancies etc etc. This goes for members of the DRF, royalty in general (I very much doubt Frederik is the only one in the whole world of royalty who does that ;)) , presidents, prime ministers and so on.
It just comes with the "territory". Personally, it doesn't bother me at all, it's pretty natural.
I don't think it has anything to do with feeling "entitled".
From everything I have read and seen about Frederik, I haven't seen anything that would suggest that he has that sort of mentality.

Jacknch 01-13-2015 03:35 PM

I'll forgive Frederik for this, he made a public apology via a statement, which these days is very rare indeed!

tommy100 01-13-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FasterB (Post 1740432)
It wasn´t CP Frederik´s decision to cross the bridge. It was PET who took the desicion. Let´s get that straight.

So I can´t see why all keeps blaiming CP Frederik.

He's a 40+ years man, he can't say the big boys made him do it. If he was that bothered by it he could have told PET not to continue. As much as I agree it's a massive fuss over not very much at all, it will be worse if Fred is seen or portrayed to try to blame everyone else.

polyesco 01-13-2015 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy100 (Post 1740583)
He's a 40+ years man, he can't say the big boys made him do it. If he was that bothered by it he could have told PET not to continue. As much as I agree it's a massive fuss over not very much at all, it will be worse if Fred is seen or portrayed to try to blame everyone else.

i dont think he is trying to blame others, the statement reads that he the CP regrets it
"The Crown Prince is sorry that it happened and (he) can well understand that the situation caused additional frustrations and anger among the people who had been waiting for many hours to cross the bridge. It was a wrong decision to accept te opportunity for the car to continue and the Crown Prince regrets that"

even if it has come to light that the CP does not interfere with PET matters and that the police more or less let them.

Muhler 01-13-2015 05:42 PM

Danskernes dom over Kronprinsens brokørsel: Det var en dum beslutning - Danmark | www.bt.dk

Gallup has made a survey for BT and the result of the survey shows that 64 % believe Frederik should not have crossed the bridge. If it's closed for everybody else it should be closed for royals as well.
68 % state that their view on Frederik has remained unchanged or only marginally changed as a result of this.
For 21 % the incident has changed their view of Frederik to being more negative.
30 % believe it will harm the reputation of the DRF on a long term basis.

- The exact wording of the questions are not mentioned in the article, nor are the options for the replies. However, Gallup is very reputable and I doubt they "manipulate" the survey in order to serve the interests of BT or others that hire them.

That is, no thing like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

polyesco 01-13-2015 06:01 PM

:previous:maybe its my google translate but it looks like for most their opinion on frederik has not changed

"But although the Danish people think that Crown Prince Frederik took a wrong choice when he drove over the Great Belt Bridge, they think no worse of the Crown Prince of the reason. And Crown Prince Frederik is apparently still 'the people's prince.

another article on the poll
Brotur koster kronprinsen populariteten - Politiken.dk

Muhler 01-13-2015 06:19 PM

:previous: No, your Google translate is correct. I just prefer to let people interpret the figures themselves.

In my interpretation it reads that 68 % believe it's nothing or a very trivial matter.
21 % believe it wasn't the brightest idea. = A "Come on, Frederik. Think".

30 % are pessimists or wish to put the DRF up against the wall or simply believe the DRF shouldn't make too many mistakes like this.

The survey in Politiken is made by Megafon, which is often used but IMO not quite as reputable as Gallup.

55 % do not think crossing the bridge was okay.

Around 25 % find it acceptable.

As for his popularity 20 % are now more negative or much more negative towards him.

That means that QMII today is the most popular member of the DRF with 37 % votes, while Frederik has dropped to a second place with 27 %.
Last year Frederik was in the lead.

However, 69 % still believe Frederik is suited to be Regent (i.e. king) and there is still a majority in favor of the monarchy, even though 14 % have become more negative towards the monarchy.

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Interestingly I read somewhere else today that it is among the 18-35 year olds is the most supporters of the monarchy can be found, I can't remember the exact figure but it was in the high 80 %

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IMO it speaks volumes of the behavior and moral standing of the DRF that a trivial matter like this is even taken serious.
This is a PR-problem some other royal families can only dream of!

polyesco 01-13-2015 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1740606)
IMO it speaks volumes of the behavior and moral standing of the DRF that a trivial matter like this is even taken serious.
This is a PR-problem some other royal families can only dream of!

thank you:flowers:
and i agree 100%
i think some danes are getting tired over the amount of coverage the media has placed on this incident
a tweet
"Have read Berlingske in my whole life. But enough is enough. Why should HRH Crown Prince ridiculed when PET was the decision maker"

Terri Terri 01-13-2015 08:24 PM

Seriously!???:lol:It has actually come down to polls being done for this incident!!??? WOW!! :ohmy:Goodness, if that is the case, Denmark would have been a republic by now if they had members who acted like some royals in the Spanish and British royal families!!!

I think because CP Frederik is regarded as being a generally humble and down-to-earth person is why people are willing to forgive him this "slip-up" and he is still popular. It was also good that he accepted responsibility for this situation early and apologized. I have a feeling if the tables were turned and it was Prince Joachim in this situation, he would not be forgiven as easily!

But you know what is even more sad?:ermm:....the media attention given to this incident has been so blown out of proportion compared to the almost total lack of media attention given to most of CP Frederik's official activities and duties!

ADDED!

Hear! Hear! Love this commentary!
http://www.b.dk/kommentarer/brobizzen

polyesco 01-13-2015 08:38 PM

well due to the lack of scandals given by the DRF the danish media has to take what they can find and blow it overboard, lol. ; )

back to his event
Here is another gallery from the Sports gala event, 3 pictures of Frederik
I can also see the USA ambassador attended as well
Galleri Sport 2014

royal rob 01-14-2015 08:45 AM

I love the DRF they have such calm little scandals


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amaryllus 01-14-2015 08:59 AM

One day it may not be such a calm little scandal. If the Danes get so excited over driving violations the real thing is going to be devastating and the near end of the DRF and I mean that only half jokingly.

Muhler 01-14-2015 09:49 AM

:previous: Well, at some point somone within the DRF are going to screw up big time, then we might talk about a crisis, but even then I'm pretty certain people are able to maintain their sense of proportions. So IMO it will take a lot to seriously threaten the status of the DRF, let alone the monarchy.

That's one of the disadvantages of living in a tribe or village, which Denmark and the Danes really are. If someone for once does something everyone has an opinion about it. And as usual it's mostly the loudest who are heard.

Also keep in mind that because DK is a small country and because we are a tribe, the DRF are in many ways like distant relatives to most Danes.
It's the equivalent to talking and gossiping about uncle Hubert, who is married to aunt Olga and who lives in the other end of the country.
We don't see them that often, but we often hear about them and we know their children and what they have been up to lately.
Now uncle Hubert has been nicked for speeding. - And of course the whole family are talking about it and we generally agree it wasn't such a bright idea and come on, Hubert, really! - But that doesn't mean we stop liking uncle Hubert and we still attend family get-togethers with Hubert and Olga and we wouldn't dream of cutting them out of the rest of the family.
You get the meaning of my analogy? ;)

GracieGiraffe 01-14-2015 09:56 AM

Scandinavians treasure their orderly little societies.

I know this because I watch Lilyhammer.

amaryllus 01-14-2015 09:56 AM

I hear you��

kimlan 01-14-2015 11:56 AM

I love your analogy Muhler!

Roskilde 01-14-2015 09:39 PM

To quote several comments I came across on Facebook: "If I hear one more word about a car crossing a bridge I will throw up. There’s terror in France, there’s killed 3000 innocent people in Nigeria and we are talking about a car having crossed a bridge in bad weather!! "

I dare to say that's exactly what 9 out of 10 Danes seems to mean as well.

That the Danish media end out blowing it totally out of proportion actually seems to only have been to Frederik's advantage. If you followed it on Facebook you could see how the Danes tried their best to bring ‘the story’ down into level and ended up taking Frederik in total defense (many even pay tribute to him) because the exaggerate coverage was embarrassing.

Jason Watt, an acknowledged sportsman, was the first out with a post. A post there have recieved ten thousands of likes and shared on Facebook:

"Breaking News in France: The fight against terrorism is at its highest. Breaking News in Denmark: A blue car driving over a bridge in windy conditions. We certainly have it very well here in Denmark, huh?"
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...70&oe=55244C44

And it seems to be the general reaction among Danes IMO.
PET decided that night that the best solution was to get the Crown Prince over the bridge and home. The police gave their permission. The day after PET admitted a better solution may could have been found, Frederik as well and he regretted. End of story. And let’s so move on to the real problems in the world, thanks...

Politicians even wrote yesterday that they think Denmark (with the new information about that it was PET's decision and that the police did gave PET their permission) owe our Crown Prince an apology. A post that has been shared and has received thousands of likes.
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...8e&oe=552F7BC6
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...ec&oe=55333F08

As the Gallup survey also shows I doubt it will affect Frederik's large and folksy popularity. I’m not saying I think it was just fine because I agree with PET and Frederik that a better solution may could have been found. But it really isn’t more worse and it was, for some reason, blown totally out of proportion. Perhaps you now understand why Denmark is called the world's happiest country. It’s not big problems we apparently have in this country!

Not a single article or word today in the Danish media... seems to have been a 'storm' in a glass of water (sorry, I couldn't resist :tongue:)

Eden 01-14-2015 09:49 PM

Hahaha!! Yes you Danes are an unlucky bunch 😄 maybe the media need Mary to be out and about have some photo ops so they have something to write about! Or let the twins go for a run around the palace with Ziggy!! 😄


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polyesco 01-14-2015 10:06 PM

Thanks Roskilde for your post and putting things in perspective.
Yes, reading on twitter it seemed like alot of Danes found the media coverage on this event overblown. Good that he apologized, even if he had permission

Moving forward, tomorrow Frederik travels to Qatar to attend the World Handball Championship in Qatar on 15 and 16th January.
the 15th is the opening day, the 16th Denmark plays versus Argentina. I read that the Danes are quite good at this game. The tournament runs until the 31st.
I remember last year the CP couple kids got jerseys with their names on it from the handball team.
24th Men's Handball World Championship | 15th January – 1st February 2015

camelot23ca 01-14-2015 10:30 PM

While I think "Bridge-gate" has been blown out of proportion, it wouldn't be the worst idea for the royal family and their team to use this as a learning opportunity. Are there any lessons that can be taken from this relatively small issue that may help to avoid some future crisis?

One thing this illustrates to me - and I think there's an element of this with pretty much every royal scandal, big and small - is how much of a bubble even the folksiest and most down to earth royals live in. Based on the reports over the last couple of days Frederik either:
A) crossed the bridge - once or twice, knowing it was closed and then lied about "making it just in time" to reporters. This would be a very poor reflection of Frederik's judgement/character, but I think this scenario isn't very likely.

B)genuinely thought the bridge was open, despite the weather, the fact that his was the only car on the bridge at the time, the line up of angry motorists he presumably had to drive by to get onto the bridge, and the fact that PET at some point in all this stopped to confer with the police. Again, this just doesn't ring true to me.

C)didn't really question the PET officers as to what was going on regarding the whole situation because it's their job to take care of inconvenient details like this and Frederik is used to just getting in the back seat of the car and not worrying about anything until he gets to his destination. special arrangements have always been made for him so he doesn't really take on board what a big distinction open bridge vs closed bridge is to most people, and how big of a disruption it can be in people's lives, and therefore why the whole thing looks bad.

That would be a good thing for Frederik to learn from this, IMO: sometimes even stupid little things can turn into actual problems because they just look bad.

Muhler 01-15-2015 09:44 AM

I think you nailed it Roskilde, another survey (!) published today in Jyllands Posten, this time by Willke, which I don't know much about, have the following figures: Måling: Danskerne blæser på kronprinsens bro-ture - Indland

Do you think Frederik is worthy of becoming king of Denmark:
Yes: 85 %
No: 7.9 %
Don't know: 7.1 %

Which of these options do you prefer for Denmark:
That we continue with the monarchy as it is today? 79 %
That the monarchy is abolished to be replaced by a president? 17.8%
Don't know: 3.3 %

The royal expert, Lars Hovbakke Sørensen, comments that an individul episode like this does not have any significance, only if there are a string of similar episodes.

That may be the case should the members of the DRF feel, (genuinely feel) above everybody else (in regards to legislation, general moral behavior and so on.
Lars Hovbakke Sørensen mentions specific examples from Spain (the king going hunting for elephants in the middle of a serious financial crisis) and Sweden (the King being caught having had an affair and frequenting strip clubs and so on), where the royals lived by another standard than is generally acceptable among the people.

Using special privileges is acceptable within reason. However, this situation is special because Frederik crossed a bridge that was closed for reasons of safety, without having an absolutely good reason for doing so. (Like a security threat, bad health and so on), comments Lars Hovbakke Sørensen.

- I remember a minister having to resign after a visit to Greenland around 1980, where she commandeered a patrolling warship. Meaning that the ship didn't perform it's normal duties, like fishery inspections for several days. That was a case of clearly overstepping the line in regards to privileges for government ministers.

Thank you, Kimlan.

polyesco 01-16-2015 12:10 PM

thank you Muhler. wow 85% not bad : )

Here are some pics of Frederik at the Qatar Handball Championship
http://www.billedbladet.dk/sites/bil...?itok=Tj1MOaC_
http://i.imgur.com/jgfdzTo.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/hwQRCpQ.jpg?1

no doubt taking some pics of the Handball players for Christian

Roskilde 01-16-2015 12:21 PM

:previous:

To translate the headline it actually says: "The Danes don't care about the trip across the bridge."

The Crown Prince receives massive support from the Danes. The trip across the bridge hasn't shaken his popularity - the support for Frederik is enormous.


I think it must be understood in that way that maybe not indifferent, but rather an expression of we think it was a little thing blown up to something very big.

It's actually reassuring. That if something is blowing totally out of proportion the Danes can think for themselves. And it will be good in the coming period where Denmark is facing general elections. For there we can talk about a press going in circles...

*

Last night, Frederik was present at the opening ceremony of the World Cup in handball in Qatar. BB noticed that he took a couple of what looked like selfies with his iPhone and he also took a few pictures of the hall. Perhaps to send home to Mary and the children?

Kronprins Frederik til håndboldfest i Qatar | Billed Bladet

GracieGiraffe 01-16-2015 12:36 PM

I think he should have to wear a scarlet B for crossing that bridge for the rest of his life, or whatever letter begins the word bridge in Danish. As a matter of fact, perhaps I will photo shop a scarlet B on my huge collection of Fred photos this afternoon.

Muhler 01-16-2015 12:47 PM

The Scarlet B - :lol: Yeah, why not.

And Mary should wear a scarlet C. - No doubt you recall the uproar a couple of years ago when Mary bicycled back to Amalienborg through the brightly lit streets of downtown Copenhagen - and her front light didn't work! :eek:
They are hardcore criminals them royals! :ninja:

polyesco 01-16-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roskilde (Post 1741350)
:previous:

To translate the headline it actually says: "The Danes don't care about the trip across the bridge."

The Crown Prince receives massive support from the Danes. The trip across the bridge hasn't shaken his popularity - the support for Frederik is enormous.


I think it must be understood in that way that maybe not indifferent, but rather an expression of we think it was a little thing blown up to something very big.

It's actually reassuring. That if something is blowing totally out of proportion the Danes can think for themselves. And it will be good in the coming period where Denmark is facing general elections. For there we can talk about a press going in circles...

*

Last night, Frederik was present at the opening ceremony of the World Cup in handball in Qatar. BB noticed that he took a couple of what looked like selfies with his iPhone and he also took a few pictures of the hall. Perhaps to send home to Mary and the children?

Kronprins Frederik til håndboldfest i Qatar | Billed Bladet

No doubt, some pictures for Christian of his favorite player Mikkel Hansen
Olympics 2012
http://us.hellomagazine.com/imagenes...ristian--z.jpg
http://image.gala.de/v1/cms/VY/dk-kr....jpg?v=6989361

Muhler 01-16-2015 01:47 PM

Our dear fellow member, Polyesco, :flowers: has dug up this startling revelation from a former PET officer: Så ligeglad er kronprinsen: Gik længere ud end til navlen | RokokoPosten
The sensational details can be read in Rokoko Posten.

The PET officer tells us: "We are on the Seychelles back in 2011, where the Crown Prince is walking out into the water when I notice that the water almost reach his waist. Naturally I yell: Stop, only to the navel, Your Highness, but he responds that since he's a majesty he can walk out until the water reach the chest".
This seriously shook the PET officer who adds that the Crown Prince on top of that went into the water well before an hour had passed after the last meal.

But that's not the only shocking thing the PET officer experienced:
In the autumn of 2013 the officer witnessed the Crown Prince running head over heels across Amalienborg Square with a pair of scissors in his hand: "The Prince had been cutting out pictures from Billed Bladet for his scrap-book when he suddenly spotted the new Audi RS 7. Then he rushed across the square to learn whether his mother couldn't persuade someone to give it to him as a present - without even a hint of him putting down the scissors, which as we all know can be extremely dangerous".

Members of the Parliament, predominantly to the left of the political spectrum, have voiced their protests, saying it really is so unfair that no one else but the Crown Prince is allowed to walk further out in the sea than until the water reaches the navel.

Politicians to the right on the other hand dismiss that firmly with the argument that Frederik's superhuman qualities ensure that he has special privileges.
Søren Pind, the most diehard supporter of Frederik says: "The critisism of the Crown Prince is simply insane. We are talking about a person who in so many ways have talents that sets him apart from the rest of the population". Søren Pind refers to Frederik's always dignified behavior, superhuman workload and impressive oratorial talents.
"As far as I am concerned he can go out into the water until it reaches his neck, if he want's to. Or on the water, if he prefer that, because that's something he can do as well".

Roskilde 01-16-2015 03:14 PM

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Frederik is right now present at the first handball match for Denmark during the World Cup in Qatar - the match between Denmark-Argentina.

And during the pause (or what you call it) Frederik has just been on live TV in the Danish VM-studio:

Charming. Since I'm not interested in sport (the husband is) I will not give a summary because I probably hasn't understood anything.

And here you go:

More pictures of Frederik in the studio- and as you can see his charm reached the Danish living rooms. At least out to the wives in the living rooms who only watching sport for the husband's sake, but suddenly got something good to look at. 3 very good looking men :tongue:

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...ee&oe=552B37C3

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...743286a5fdaf73

https://www.facebook.com/billedblade...type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/billedblade...52791140962928

polyesco 01-16-2015 03:18 PM

:previous:Nice

some pictures of Frederik at the game
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7fZu1JCYAAG4Z_.jpg
http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/...13e59f2306.jpg

Danes at halftime are wining

Danish fans at the game too
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7fg9OfCUAMQJoE.jpg
Denmark audience are there for their team
https://vine.co/v/Ojbrj1jdd0l

gerry 01-16-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polyesco (Post 1741412)
:previous:Nice

some pictures of Frederik at the game
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7fZu1JCYAAG4Z_.jpg
http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/...13e59f2306.jpg

Danes at halftime are wining

Danish fans at the game too
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7fg9OfCUAMQJoE.jpg

winning or whining because they didn't:hiding:(sorry, couldn't resist!;)

polyesco 01-16-2015 03:38 PM

:previous:Now that is a handsome man;)
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...ee&oe=552B37C3

his halftime interview
Kronprinsen i VM-studiet: Vi skal skifte sølv ud med guld | Sportscenter

Muhler 01-16-2015 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerry (Post 1741418)
winning or whining because they didn't:hiding:(sorry, couldn't resist!;)

:tongue: Well, here is a gallery of Frederik watching the DK match. Somehow I get the impression they didn't do that well. Se billederne: Kronprinsen og Wilbek var øjenvidner til fiaskoen | www.bt.dk


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