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TedzLee 06-03-2014 08:30 PM

Proclamation of Felipe VI; Suggestions & Musings
 
The Coronation of Prince Felipe of Asturias will take place on June 18, 2014.

USCtrojan 06-03-2014 10:03 PM

Are the Spanish monarchs crowned? I have never seen pictures of King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia in regalia. I thought he was just sworn in. Can anyone confirm?

Charlotte_Aster 06-04-2014 01:34 AM

No they are not crowned. The King is sworn in in the Parliement. Maybe there will be some sort of a church service.

NoorMeansLight 06-04-2014 10:35 AM

Thanks for the date! So soon indeed!
I hope there will be many royals present, apart from uncle Conny & Co. ;)

Marty91charmed 06-04-2014 11:33 AM

Hope to see Albert and Charlene too!

dazzling 06-04-2014 11:58 AM

I doubt this will be a big event like The Netherlands. I don't think any foreign guests will be attending or I can be wrong.

muriel 06-04-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoorMeansLight (Post 1672208)
Thanks for the date! So soon indeed!
I hope there will be many royals present, apart from uncle Conny & Co. ;)

I am expecting this to be a very low key event. I would be surprised if there were any foreign royals present, other than the Greeks.

USCtrojan 06-04-2014 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by muriel (Post 1672281)
I am expecting this to be a very low key event. I would be surprised if there were any foreign royals present, other than the Greeks.


The Princes Philip and Aleksander of Serbia are the god-children of HM Queen Sofia. It would be nice if they were present.

cepe 06-04-2014 12:18 PM

Spain is hard up. High profile attendees will mean high profile security. In practical terms, the timescale (2 wks notice) and cost will probably mean no o/seas guests.

Duc_et_Pair 06-04-2014 12:35 PM

It is a proclamation, no coronation. Only the UK still has coronations.

When I listened to the words spoken in 1975, then the most senior member of the Cortes (or the person who presides the special assembly) speaks the following words (my translation from spoken text, adapted to 2014):

"In name of the Spanish Cortes and the Council of State, expressing to the Spanish Nation that now is proclaimed King of Spain: Don Felipe de Borbón y Grecia, to reign under the name Felipe VI.

Deputies, Councillors: with emotion and gratitude for the Reign of Don Juan Carlos: ¡Viva el Rey! ¡Viva España!

Cory 06-04-2014 01:51 PM

I hope the Romanian,Greek,Serbian,Bulgarian Royals will attend the event.

Mbruno 06-04-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dazzling (Post 1672279)
I doubt this will be a big event like The Netherlands. I don't think any foreign guests will be attending or I can be wrong.

If there is an inauguration mass, I'm pretty sure members of foreign royal families will be invited.

If there is only a swearing-in ceremony in the parliament, it will be a low-key event (i.e not as glamorous/formal as a Dutch inauguration) and no foreign guests are likely to attend.

Duc_et_Pair 06-04-2014 04:25 PM

I agree. The Investiture ceremony with the proclamation will be "intimate" (no foreign guests, like in Belgium). A few weeks later the Armed Forces will hold a special parade, I believe and of course a Te Deum. In connection to that, I can imagine there will be foreign guests too.

Mbruno 06-04-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 1672399)
I agree. The Investiture ceremony with the proclamation will be "intimate" (no foreign guests, like in Belgium). A few weeks later the Armed Forces will hold a special parade, I believe and of course a Te Deum. In connection to that, I can imagine there will be foreign guests too.


I looked up on the Web and here is a list of some of the foreign guests who attended the enthronement mass for King Juan Carlos in 1975:

" Inside the Church took their places the King and Queen of the Hellenes, Prince Rainier and Princess Grace of Monaco, the President of France and the President of the Federal Republic of Germany, the President of Ireland, the Grand-Master of the Order of Malta, the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Liège, the Prince Sidi Mohamed of Morocco, the Prince Bertil of Sweden, the Hereditary Grand-Duke of Luxembourg, the Vice-President of the United States of America, Nelson Rockefeller among representatives of over 80 countries and around 700 guests. "


Apparently, it was a big event.

principessa 06-04-2014 04:39 PM

I guess we will only see King Felipe VI, Queen Letizia, King Juan Carlos, Queen Sofia and the Infantas Leonor and Sofia at the inauguration events.

No Elena, no Cristina, no Marichalar children, no Urdangarin children.

ANNIE_S 06-04-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by principessa (Post 1672410)
I guess we will only see King Felipe VI, Queen Letizia, King Juan Carlos, Queen Sofia and the Infantas Leonor and Sofia at the inauguration events.

No Elena, no Cristina, no Marichalar children, no Urdangarin children.

They say we could see more of the extended family during the signing of the Abdication Law by King Juan Carlos, which will be at the Royal Palace the same day as the proclamation.

And by "extended family" I mean both Elena and Cristina´s families and both Infantas Pilar and Margarita.

But they are only rumours and assumptions so far.

An Ard Ri 06-04-2014 07:03 PM

The Kings sisters and aunts all attended the Proclamation Ceremony for King Juan Carlos ,however it might be very different this time round.

kathia_sophia 06-04-2014 07:20 PM

Can someone explain better to me? There's the signing, Felipe needs to swear, proclamation ceremony, and more? I'm a bit confused here, I saw pictures of Queen Sofia wearing a pink dress & later a blue dress with mantilla.
Can someone explain to me what and how the ceremonies will be? Which ones? All in the same very day? If yes, that means a full pack day with schedules and changing clothes?
I'm so confused here, I need help ;)

ANNIE_S 06-04-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kathia_sophia (Post 1672467)
Can someone explain better to me? There's the signing, Felipe needs to swear, proclamation ceremony, and more? I'm a bit confused here, I saw pictures of Queen Sofia wearing a pink dress & later a blue dress with mantilla.
Can someone explain to me what and how the ceremonies will be? Which ones? All in the same very day? If yes, that means a full pack day with schedules and changing clothes?
I'm so confused here, I need help ;)

I feel strange explaining these things, because nothing is really official yet so I feel like I could be giving you wrong information and messing things even more :ermm:, but still...

About King Juan Carlos proclamation: the event where Sofia wears the hot pink dress was the day of the proclamation. There were no foreign guest at that ceremony.

The event where she wears the blue dress with mantilla was the Te Deum (mass) at San Jerónimo´s church. That was a different day, short after the proclamation, and there were many foreign guest that can be seen in the video posted by An Ard Ri. Afterwards, they went to the Royal Palace and had a balcony appearance (I assume there was a reception/lunch/dinner too).

What we can expect similar to this on Felipe´s proclamation:

Well, the ceremony of proclamation at the Parliament should be quite similar. We don´t know yet about the protocol, but uniforms/morning dress for men and long dress (no tiara and no orders) for ladies like that occasion is quite possible.

Before that ceremony can take place, King Juan Carlos must "stop being king", so he has to signed the Organic Law destined to that (that Law is what the parliament is now preparing and will be ready on June 18th, after the approvals of both Congress and Senate). According to the most recent information, that would take place in a short ceremony the same day that the proclamation, quite probably at the Royal Palace of Madrid (similar to the Dutch abdication). After that happens, Felipe will be already King of Spain, but he has to be inmediately sworn at the Parliament-and it is then when they will go to the Parliament and the ceremony of proclamation takes place.

Since everything happens the same day (probably the same morning), I don´t think we´ll see different clothes from one event to another.

And we are guessing that there will not be foreign guests that day, so if there is going to be some kind of mass, party or reception in order to receiving foreign dignataries, that will be on a different day like it happened with KJC and QS.

Hope this helps ;)

cepe 06-04-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 1672406)
I looked up on the Web and here is a list of some of the foreign guests who attended the enthronement mass for King Juan Carlos in 1975:

" Inside the Church took their places the King and Queen of the Hellenes, Prince Rainier and Princess Grace of Monaco, the President of France and the President of the Federal Republic of Germany, the President of Ireland, the Grand-Master of the Order of Malta, the Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Liège, the Prince Sidi Mohamed of Morocco, the Prince Bertil of Sweden, the Hereditary Grand-Duke of Luxembourg, the Vice-President of the United States of America, Nelson Rockefeller among representatives of over 80 countries and around 700 guests. "


Apparently, it was a big event.

It was an historic event - the change to a constitutional monarchy from what was seen as a dictatorship. Countries rallied to support JC


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