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Muhler 11-14-2013 10:47 AM

Thomas Kluge's Painting of the Danish Royal Family
 
Summary of article in Billed Bladet #46, 2013.
Hele Danmarks farmor - (Paternal) grandmother of the whole of Denmark.
Written by Annelise Weimann.

The new portrait depicting the DRF will be unveiled tomorrow Friday.

At the same time a book about the painting has been published and in here QMII talks about posing and I think it says a lot about her character and mindset.

The painting will hang at Fredensborg.

When she is posing: "When I'm photographed I do like that it looks a bit nice and you do know that you have days where you look dreadful. If I am to be portraied I at least make such an effort that I get my hair combed. And then (I) count on the artist making sure between the seances to make sure that I don't look like I've been dragged backwards trhough a hedge with thorns, even though my hair hasn't been the right place one of the days I've been sitting as a model. You can't stand looking at it if you look like a birdsnest". QMII laughs.

In this painting, also done by the painter Kluge, who has painted the portrait of the DRF, QMII comments: "I look like I eat little children for breakfast". https://app.box.com/s/124e72ormem9trldw8vd

That painting does not camuflage QMII age and to that she says: "As royal I'm so fortunate not having to be concerned about the age, because everybody knows when your birthday is and how old you become. So that's fine, then you can just leave that alone.
And that's it. I've no ambitions about looking like I was 40 yesterday. In that case I have been 40 for a long time".

polyesco 11-14-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1618014)
Summary of article in Billed Bladet #46, 2013.
Hele Danmarks farmor - (Paternal) grandmother of the whole of Denmark.
Written by Annelise Weimann.

The new portrait depicting the DRF will be unveiled tomorrow Friday.

At the same time a book about the painting has been published and in here QMII talks about posing and I think it says a lot about her character and mindset.

The painting will hang at Fredensborg.

When she is posing: "When I'm photographed I do like that it looks a bit nice and you do know that you have days where you look dreadful. If I am to be portraied I at least make such an effort that I get my hair combed. And then (I) count on the artist making sure between the seances to make sure that I don't look like I've been dragged backwards trhough a hedge with thorns, even though my hair hasn't been the right place one of the days I've been sitting as a model. You can't stand looking at it if you look like a birdsnest". QMII laughs.

In this painting, also done by the painter Kluge, who has painted the portrait of the DRF, QMII comments: "I look like I eat little children for breakfast". https://app.box.com/s/124e72ormem9trldw8vd

That painting does not camuflage QMII age and to that she says: "As royal I'm so fortunate not having to be concerned about the age, because everybody knows when your birthday is and how old you become. So that's fine, then you can just leave that alone.
And that's it. I've no ambitions about looking like I was 40 yesterday. In that case I have been 40 for a long time"
.

is this the portrait with the whole family? how nice

I highlighted in Bold what the Queen said.
"I look like i eat children for breakfast" :rofl::rofl:
this is why she is great.

The painting of the entire family
Nyt portræt af den kongelige familie - Kongehuset

its fun and nice
http://kongehuset.dk/Menu/materiale/...t-af-kluge.img

I liked the detail of the Queen, Frederik and Christian being the only ones that look straight.
"In painting the royal family is developed in the past, present and future, while the balance between private and official at the same time, the picture is the story of a contemporary family and a piece of the history of Denmark.

The current and two future monarchs, H. M. Queen D.K.H. Crown Prince Frederik and Prince Christian, eye contact with us, while other family members are portrayed in his own universe - in thought and unprovoked the viewer. Children are playing with the exception of the upright and serious Christian prince, which seems aware of the future liability. "

For me the best painted ones are Frederik and Mary with the twins and Joachim's 3 boys. The Queen and Henrik are also nice and relaxed.

Archduchess Zelia 11-15-2013 12:14 PM

Oh good grief.

LadyFinn 11-15-2013 01:19 PM

Close ups of the painting
Se alle detaljerne Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år www.bt.dk

Muhler 11-15-2013 01:25 PM

Thanks Polyesco.

Here is a highres pic of the painting: http://www.bt.dk/sites/default/files...edbilledet.jpg

And a BT article about the symbols in the painting: Se det nye kongelige maleri: Kan du spotte de skjulte symboler? - Royale | www.bt.dk

A gallery of the painting being unveiled: Se billederne: Her afslører de det royale familieportræt | www.bt.dk

The painting is 2.20 by 2.20 meters and it's commisioned on the occasion of the 150th anniversary of the Glücksborg line getting on the throne. An anonymous wealthy person has paid. (My personal guess is Fritz Schur).

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-3 M&F and children standing to the left of the painting with the ruins in the background symbolize that they are the urban part of the family.

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-4 Joachim and our Marie standing to the right symbolize that they are the rural part of the family.

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-5
Christian has ben placed to the front because he is tasked with continuing the dynasty.

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-6
Only those who is a monarch or who are destined to become a monarch have eye contact with the viewer.

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-7
The LEGO tower being build symbolize that the family was broken up and rebuild again.

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-8
Marie looking down at Athena in a "madonna-like way" is simply to have some action in the background, because the main characters are Christian, QMII and Frederik.

http://www.bt.dk/royale/se-alle-deta...00-aar#slide-9
Mary's tender, motherly look at Vincent symbolize her being the future queen.

According to a tradition Kluge has put himself and his wife in the picture, pretty easy to spot.

Not sure what I think about it yet, there is plenty to look at.

suztav 11-15-2013 04:47 PM

Sorry, but I think this portrait is awful!!!

Nico 11-15-2013 04:51 PM

Horrible, horrible portrait. Looks like the Adams family or something. Little Christian seems to want to eat our soul...

polyesco 11-15-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1618403)
Thanks Polyesco.

Here is a highres pic of the painting: http://www.bt.dk/sites/default/files...edbilledet.jpg

And a BT article about the symbols in the painting: Se det nye kongelige maleri: Kan du spotte de skjulte symboler? - Royale | www.bt.dk

A gallery of the painting being unveiled: Se billederne: Her afslører de det royale familieportræt | www.bt.dk

The painting is 2.20 by 2.20 meters and it's commisioned on the occasion of the 150th anniversary of the Glücksborg line getting on the throne. An anonymous wealthy person has paid. (My personal guess is Fritz Schur).

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk M&F and children standing to the left of the painting with the ruins in the background symbolize that they are the urban part of the family.

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk Joachim and our Marie standing to the right symbolize that they are the rural part of the family.

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk
Christian has ben placed to the front because he is tasked with continuing the dynasty.

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk
Only those who is a monarch or who are destined to become a monarch have eye contact with the viewer.

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk
The LEGO tower being build symbolize that the family was broken up and rebuild again.

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk
Marie looking down at Athena in a "madonna-like way" is simply to have some action in the background, because the main characters are Christian, QMII and Frederik.

Se alle detaljerne: Det første royale familieportræt i over 100 år | www.bt.dk
Mary's tender, motherly look at Vincent symbolize her being the future queen.

According to a tradition Kluge has put himself and his wife in the picture, pretty easy to spot.

Not sure what I think about it yet, there is plenty to look at.


thanks Muhler:flowers:
I love the symbolism in the painting.

And I love that they have all 14 members of the current royal family. I would like the other royal families to have similar paintings made of their current members :smile:

camelot23ca 11-15-2013 07:26 PM

Oh, wow. To each their own, I guess, but I think this portrait is awful. It's disappointing that the great, (and no doubt never to be repeated), opportunity of having the entire family pose together resulted in… this.

The only person who looks remotely natural is Mary. Maybe Frederik. The rest of the adults look strange. He also managed to take a very attractive group of children and turn them into extras from The Walking Dead.

I also hate when artists load their paintings with pseudo intellectual symbolism, and then tell everyone about it. There's something to be said, especially with portraits that are going to become part of a nation's historical record, for just painting something that's straight forward and visually pleasing.

BrazilianEmpire 11-15-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by polyesco (Post 1618370)

For God's sake, what is this? The Danish version of "The Addams Family"?

LadyFinn 11-16-2013 02:38 AM

Marie in white, Mary in black. The big distance between Fred and Mary and Joachim and Marie. No interaction between the children except Felix and Nikolai. Isabella looks to be afraid of something. No joy, happiness or family unity in this painting at all. And Christian is only a child, why he and his role must be all the time emphasized?

kathl29 11-16-2013 03:31 AM

I like the idea of having a painting of the whole family but am not too keen on this painting. Christian looks way too intense and seems to take over the painting but not in a good way.

There is no unity between the family members in the painting and so it makes it too disjointed to look at properly.

Princess Xenia 11-16-2013 04:03 AM

It is a very good idea to have the whole family painted together, but this is horrifying.
The way that most members of each family are far from each other, that most of the adults looks waaaaayyy much older than they are ( except for Mary ), how Christian is placed and how he looks in the portrait, how alone Isabella seems to be and all the symbolism in the portrait, I kind of get the feeling that they want to send us the message that this World Will End Very Soon, Be Careful.

Muhler 11-16-2013 04:46 AM

The serious paper Jyllands Posten has a few more details: Fra den første skitse til færdigt maleri - Billedkunst - Kultur

The painting by Tuxen this new painting called "Kongehuset = the royal house = usually shortened here to the DRF" was inspired from: http://www.jyllands-posten.dk/pictur...X_-%281%29.jpg

When Kluge decided to paint this he almost immediately had the basic composition in his head and four years later it was completed.

The adults posed for him a number of times. The children were painted after photos, but he met with the children a number of times, talked and played with them to get to know them and personality.

In one of the lower corners, hidden behind layers of paint, will be a little mystery for future art-researchers. In an unguarded moment one of Kluge's children made a little drawing on the canvas.

Kluges intention all the way through was to focus on the children.

QMII gave him free reins and never questioned anything he did.

Apart from Frederik, QMII and Christian, all the other members of the DRF are depicted immersed in their own thoughts as if being in their own universe.

Kluge started out with a composition of eleven people, but then three more children came to the world and he had to modify the painting a bit.

The painting will be exhibited at Amalienborg until early March, should you wish to see it for yourself. Then it will be moved permanently to Fredensborg Palace.

- Well, what do I think?
Would I like to have it on my wall, albeit in a smaller version? No.
Would I like to return to it and look at it from time to time? Yes, I do find it fascinating.
Would I like to have myself and my family depicted this way? Nah.
So based on the fact that I don't know about art, but I know what I like, this painting get a little thumbs down.

Lady Daly 11-16-2013 05:37 AM

What a scary piece of art. Quite a contrast from the last family portrait ~130 yrs. ago. This new painting is so antithetical as to how I view The Danish Royal Family. It could hold stiff competition in the Bald Archy Prize Australia's spoof award on serious art. Bald Archy Prize - the alternative Archibald

The Danish Royal Family 130 yrs ago

http://jyllands-posten.dk/kultur/bil...ens-maleri.jpg

An Ard Ri 11-16-2013 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muhler (Post 1618563)
The serious paper Jyllands Posten has a few more details: Fra den første skitse til færdigt maleri - Billedkunst - Kultur

The painting by Tuxen this new painting called "Kongehuset = the royal house = usually shortened here to the DRF" was inspired from: http://www.jyllands-posten.dk/pictur...X_-%281%29.jpg

When Kluge decided to paint this he almost immediately had the basic composition in his head and four years later it was completed.

The adults posed for him a number of times. The children were painted after photos, but he met with the children a number of times, talked and played with them to get to know them and personality.

In one of the lower corners, hidden behind layers of paint, will be a little mystery for future art-researchers. In an unguarded moment one of Kluge's children made a little drawing on the canvas.

Kluges intention all the way through was to focus on the children.

QMII gave him free reins and never questioned anything he did.

Apart from Frederik, QMII and Christian, all the other members of the DRF are depicted immersed in their own thoughts as if being in their own universe.

Kluge started out with a composition of eleven people, but then three more children came to the world and he had to modify the painting a bit.

The painting will be exhibited at Amalienborg until early March, should you wish to see it for yourself. Then it will be moved permanently to Fredensborg Palace.

- Well, what do I think?
Would I like to have it on my wall, albeit in a smaller version? No.
Would I like to return to it and look at it from time to time? Yes, I do find it fascinating.
Would I like to have myself and my family depicted this way? Nah.
So based on the fact that I don't know about art, but I know what I like, this painting get a little thumbs down.


I don't like it,something very Halloween about it .I wonder how the Danes are reacting to this new painting?

UserDane 11-16-2013 06:03 AM

I haven't formed an opinion of this painting yet; I have seen en exhibition of Kluge's paintings - and that was quite another experience than seeing them in pictures. His paintings were interesting, some of them very beautiful. So I think I'll have to wait with an absolute opinion.

Many negative comments are about the dark and sinister feel of the painting; but that's what Kluge does. As to the symbolism, everyone reads into it what they like and perhaps their usual opinion of the family ('separation' of the two brothers and their families'), etc.

First and foremost I find it absolutely MARVELLOUS that a painting of this nature is made in this day and age. So much focus today is on downplaying what is considered unnecessary and for some ostentatious display of luxurious royal life styles; but doing that we also - IMO - remove a lot of new cultural marvels to pass on to coming generations. We, not least in this forum, appreciate what former royal generations have left us in terms of castles, jewellery, paintings, etc.
I'm really thrilled that the fantastic tradition of royal paintings can be continued.

And I also believe that once people have gotten their Addams Family comparisons off their chests, they will appreciate the significance of such a painting :smile:


added - examples of previous paintings by Thomas Kluge:

http://www.b.dk/nationalt/se-kluges-...endis-malerier
http://www.b.dk/nationalt/se-kluges-...lerier#slide-6
http://www.b.dk/nationalt/se-kluges-...lerier#slide-9

dazzling 11-16-2013 07:08 AM

It's interesting that its different in terms of colours but I don't like it at all. It's too dark, too dull and the placement of Frederik, Mary to Marie and Joachim seems way too far. The proportion of Christian compared too everyone else is weird and the fact that he is so up from is also weird. I don't get why Frederik & Mary are both in black against such a dark background.

wyevale 11-16-2013 07:10 AM

Personally i love this painting - the black background brings real originality to the rather ossified genre of Royal portraiture.

Elenath 11-16-2013 07:12 AM

I must be the only one who really loves this painting. I don’t mind the darker feeling to it and the artist shows immense skill. It’s like we are looking through a lens at a family scene and Chrsitian is looking straight into the camera back at us. I like it..

edit: Darn… Wyevale beat me to being the only one.. ;-)


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