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lucien 09-26-2013 12:09 AM

King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima's Visit to Russia: November 8-9, 2013
 
TM will visit Moscow on november 9th at the conclusion of the Russia - The Netherlands year.TM will attend a concert by the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra with director Maris Jansons as part of the world tour of the orchestra.

TM will also meet with President Putin.

Marengo 10-16-2013 02:42 AM

Several political parties want to cancel the Netherlands-Russia year/ the visit of the King and Queen to Russia.
This 'friendship' year saw one incident after another. Last week the Dutch police arrested a Russian diplomat after his drunk wife crashed 4 cars in The Hague and while he dragged his children by the hair through the house.The neighbours called the police as they heard the children crying, the man was drunk and the police arrested him. The Russians, instead of withdrawing the diplomat after this behavior, demanded apologies and threatened to stop the export of flowers to Russia. So our foreign minister apologised.
Russia and the Netherlands: The bear and the land of tulips | The Economist

And now a Dutch diplomat was tied to his chair in his house and molested. I wonder how much more of groveling we need to do.
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archive...ked_at_hom.php

If the visit goes on as planned, which is the most likely scenario, it will be a difficult first high profile foreign visit for the new king.

Jacknch 10-16-2013 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 1609416)
Several political parties want to cancel the Netherlands-Russia year/ the visit of the King and Queen to Russia.
This 'friendship' year saw one incident after another. Last week the Dutch police arrested a Russian diplomat after his drunk wife crashed 4 cars in The Hague and while he dragged his children by the hair through the house.The neighbours called the police as they heard the children crying, the man was drunk and the police arrested him. The Russians, instead of withdrawing the diplomat after this behavior, demanded apologies and threatened to stop the export of flowers to Russia. So our foreign minister apologised.
Russia and the Netherlands: The bear and the land of tulips | The Economist

And now a Dutch diplomat was tied to his chair in his house and molested. I wonder how much more of groveling we need to do.
DutchNews.nl - Dutch diplomat attacked at home in Moscow, possible gay rights protest

Very little needs to be added to this! I think the word "groveling" is quite an apt one and could be used by a number of countries in their "special relationships" with other more "powerful" nations.
If King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima do visit Russia, I hope they will be treated better there than Angela Merkel was!

redtulip 10-16-2013 03:45 AM

A bit political, I think. - As long as there are diplomatic ties between the countries, kings and queens of any countries should visit, in my opinion. If and when the diplomats are withdrawn to their home countries, things change. Till then, it's business as usual, in my book.

dazzling 11-08-2013 12:38 PM

King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima's Visit to Russia; November 8th-9th, 2013
 
Their Majesties arrive in Moscow on November 8, 2013

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The below articles give you an idea of what the visit is on. The King and Queen will be attending a concert.

President Putin to Hold Talks With Dutch King
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Marengo 11-08-2013 02:34 PM

They arrived at the Kremlin:

Willem Alexander bij Poetin | Volg het nieuws terwijl het gebeurt
Koningspaar ontvangen op Kremlin - NOS Nieuws

Awful shiny dress on the Queen btw.

lucien 11-08-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 1616232)

And not in gala...Putin dislikes that..


http://content.nos.nl/data/image/xxl.../08/572656.jpg

Free from NOS

Marengo 11-08-2013 03:43 PM

I remember that now you mention it, when he was on a state(?) visit to the Netherlands he also wore a normal suit & tie in the evening:
Den Haag, 1 november 2005: Staatsiefoto gemaakt vóór het galadiner in Paleis Noordeinde - Het Koninklijk Huis


As a welcome present the Russian minister of foreign affairs accused the Dutch government of 'inactivity' in not preventing Greenpeace to set sail to the oil platform.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/...-stoppen.dhtml

Does mrs. Putin usually stay away from these events? I see that they did not need a translator, did they speak German perhaps? Or does Putin talk English?

Edit: I saw on the tv news that the king was talking Dutch and the president was talking Russian. There was a translator indeed.

Marika86 11-08-2013 03:44 PM

Getty Images: Cerca - Getty Images IT: RUS: Dutch Royalty Meets With Putin

lucien 11-08-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 1616252)
I remember that now you mention it, when he was on a state(?) visit to the Netherlands he also wore a normal suit & tie in the evening:
Den Haag, 1 november 2005: Staatsiefoto gemaakt vóór het galadiner in Paleis Noordeinde - Het Koninklijk Huis


As a welcome present the Russian minister of foreign affairs accused the Dutch government of 'inactivity' in not preventing Greenpeace to set sail to the oil platform.
Russen: Nederland had Greenpeace moeten stoppen - Binnenland - VK

Does mrs. Putin usually stay away from these events? I see that they did not need a translator, did they speak German perhaps? Or does Putin talk English?

He is divorced,there is only a ex Mrs.Putin now.Oh and Lavrov is Lavrov ...uttering anything to blame anyone else except him- or themselves...
They use translators for the official parts but talk either German or English for the rest of the time,out of view...nationalist ego...Anyway.Yes,that was that state visit Marengo,and the Queen had to adapt to the wishes of Putin by not wearing a diadem...There was some hullabaloo over that at the time.Specially on the Boards and Fora...grin..But all was done to cover the damage by the Russians as they suddenly decided SHELL had to withdraw or pay dearly from or for a project in Kamchatka,their far-eastern peninsula...The Russians took over with their own oil company...That is,they took over with the company based on what they stole from Mikhail Khodorkovski....Such a sweet neat bunch...:whistling:

Lee-Z 11-08-2013 04:37 PM

Ah Lucien, i see you are really in the spirit of Netherlands-Russia year :)

lucien 11-08-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee-Z (Post 1616270)
Ah Lucien, i see you are really in the spirit of Netherlands-Russia year :)

When in Moscow...grin...Yes I am!
....

iceflower 11-08-2013 04:46 PM

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A couple of large pics can be found here (click on the article picture to open the gallery and afterwards on "Toggle size" above the pic):


** refdag.nl: Koningspaar ontvangen in het Kremlin ** translation **

lucien 11-09-2013 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee-Z (Post 1616270)
Ah Lucien, i see you are really in the spirit of Netherlands-Russia year :)

Must say I did like what your fellow Heerlenaar,and our Foreign Minister,wrote on the Port Putin served at dinner last night,dating from the year of birth of Queen Anna Pavlovna.Very thoughtfull.True.

Marika86 11-09-2013 01:54 PM

King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands and Queen Maxima attend a concert by Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra at the Tchaikovsky Conservatorium in Moscow, Saturday, November 9, 2013.

Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3

iceflower 11-09-2013 05:13 PM

:previous:


Here are some more pics of the concert, as well as pics and videos of Willem-Alexander and Máxima's visit to the State Tretyakov Gallery and their meeting with Dutch and Russian businessmen and officials today:



** anp gallery ** rtlnieuws.nl gallery **


** refdag.nl gallery: „Bezoek koning heeft geholpen” (fotoserie) **


** nos.nl video: Koningspaar bij handelsoverleg **


** nos.nl video: Koningspaar bezoekt Tretyakov Museum **


** nos.nl video: Koningspaaar bezoekt lunch en tentoonstelling **

Marengo 11-09-2013 06:19 PM

According to the minister of foreign affairs, the visit of the king and queen helped to normalize the Russian-Dutch relations. So I suppose we must believe him on his word.

Thank goodness that this year is over, it must have been one of the worst bilateral years in the 400 years of diplomatic relationship between the countries.

Al_bina 11-09-2013 07:01 PM

:previous:
The relationships between Russia and any European country, including Netherlands, always remain politely disgruntled.
It is nice that King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima came to Moscow. Hopefully the programme of the visit was interesting.

dazzling 11-10-2013 06:01 AM

Its good to know they were able to help on this matter. I had the idea that a monarchy couldn't interfere in such political matters. It was a nice short visit but with completely different events. The concert must of been great.

AdmirerUS 11-10-2013 10:40 AM

Tomatoes were thrown... I doubt they got close.
Dutch royals pelted with tomatoes in Moscow


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