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Tatiana Maria 03-17-2017 08:09 AM

Isn't it the case that she has double nationality because it is impossible to renounce Argentinean nationality?

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Het is op dit moment dan ook niet mogelijk voor de koningin om afstand te doen van haar Argentijnse nationaliteit, zo erkent Buma.

Duc_et_Pair 03-17-2017 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria (Post 1968383)
Isn't it the case that she has double nationality because it is impossible to renounce Argentinean nationality?

That counts for Turks, Moroccoans, Argentineans and a few other people: it is not possible to renounce their citizenship. These are not in line with the Rijkswet op het Nederlanderschap (Kingdom's Act on the Dutch citizenship) which states that only one citizenship can be held. What some parties want is to end the possibility to have two citizenships indeed (because the other state does not allow: once a Turk, always a Turk, even 5 generations furtherer.)

Some parties (mostly on the left) say: "Double citizenships must be allowed". Other parties (mostly on the right) say: "A choice for the Dutch citizenship must mean an end to another citizenship".

Note that the mentioned Rijkswet has an automatic working the other way: "When a Dutch citizen accepts the citizenship of another state, the citizenship of the Kingdom of the Netherlands is automatically lost".) So in essence politicians have the opinion that the policy on citizenship between two states must be equal. A Dutchman accepting Turkish citizenship looses his Dutch passport. An Turk accepting Dutch citizenship keeps his Turkish passport. There is an anomaly in that.

carlota 03-17-2017 10:28 AM

how silly. if argentina does not allow for its citizens to renounce citizenship, what is maxima to do? it is not her fault. it is not as if she can change the rules of argentina or that they can make an exception for her.

and... does it really matter in the first place? she is a dutch citizen and has stated repeatedly that she is dutch, although she obviously loves her birth country.

Duc_et_Pair 03-17-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by carlota (Post 1968433)
how silly. if argentina does not allow for its citizens to renounce citizenship, what is maxima to do? it is not her fault. it is not as if she can change the rules of argentina or that they can make an exception for her.

and... does it really matter in the first place? she is a dutch citizen and has stated repeatedly that she is dutch, although she obviously loves her birth country.

It has little to do with Queen Máxima herself. Her position was put forward by opponents: "So you want to rob our popular Queen from her Argentinean passport?" in an attempt to halt the idea. The Central Statistic Office stated that in 2015 there were 1,3 million Dutch citizens with a second passport from another country (so eligible to vote, to do compulsory military service in another counrty, etc.).

This massive number of (mostly Turkish and Morrocoan) double nationalities indeed bring discontent to the surface. When Erdogan locks up thousands and thousands of journalists, military, judges, teachers, etc. without any form of process, you don't hear them. But when Erdogan appeals to them to go on the street, there they are... en masse cheering for him: "Our Great President!". The Dutch saw Turkish people waving Turrkish flags and chanting for a foreign President while they were born in the Netherlands, while their parents were born in the Netherlands, while their grandparents were born in the Netherlands.

It is not so futile as only the Queen's second passport.

dazzling 03-18-2017 01:42 PM

I dont think this is an attack on the Queen but if a law passes it has to pass for all equally.

I didn't know she had a double citizenship, I thought she had given it up when she married given who she was marrying. I guess I was wrong.

Mentioned above that Argentinians can't denounce their citizenship, maybe that's an issue she faced in the past if she did plan to do so. I guess it's not easy for all and other ways should be studied.

royalfanvivian 03-23-2017 11:23 AM

Traditionally will King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima on the Friday before King's Day, Friday, April 21, to give the go-ahead for the King Games. This year it is in primary school, the Five Master of Veghel. Sports Day starts with breakfast, then go all the pupils from Netherlands dancing together on the song 'Okido' Children for Children that was included at Soestdijk Palace: Lied Koningsspelen opgenomen op Paleis Soestdijk | De Oranjes

Koningin 03-24-2017 07:06 PM

Shouldn't we close this thread? It's already 21 pages!

eya 04-23-2017 03:24 AM

"The kings of Holland celebrated the Easter according to the Hellenic tradition

Greece became one of the most exciting destinations to spend Easter. There are celebrations and rites of the Orthodox Church throughout the country, especially in small villages or islands, where traditions are stronger. That is why the kings of the Netherlands decided to celebrate Holy Saturday on the island of Spetses, only ten minutes by boat from their Greek refuge, located in the area of ​​Doroufi, in Ermioni, to the south of the continent. Invited by the kings of Greece, Constantine II and Ana Maria, Máxima and Guillermo, together with their three daughters, Amalia (13), Alexia (11) and Ariane (10) participated in the ceremony in which the Hellenes gather Hour before midnight in his church to light white candles with holy fire (which is distributed in temples throughout the country). And then, every believer must take the walk to his home with the candle lit, mark a cross on the door of his dwelling and extinguish the flame once inside."

http://bucket3.glanacion.com/anexos/...da-2433965.jpg

Los reyes de Holanda celebraron la Pascua según la tradición helénica - ¡HOLA! *

Duc_et_Pair 04-23-2017 03:53 AM

Interesting. The links with the Greek royal family seem quite close. Remember that Big Fat Greek Wedding in London (Filippos Lemos and Marianna Goulandris) with the Dutch and Greek royal families attending...

rockon210 05-01-2017 12:35 PM

Willem-Alexander, Máxima and Family, General News Part 3 (May 2017- Present)
 
The Family is on a short holiday in Austria. I think i spotted Maximas Brother stepping out of the car.
http://ooe.orf.at/news/stories/2840399/

dazzling 05-01-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rockon210 (Post 1981031)
The Family is on a short holiday in Austria. I think i spotted Maximas Brother stepping out of the car.
Royales Shoppen am Attersee - ooe.ORF.at

Why are they in Austria and any idea when they went?

rockon210 05-01-2017 01:30 PM

The news said they arrived Sunday Evening in Salzburg and they visited Seewalchen in Upper Austria. They will return home Tuesday or Wednesday. Prinses Beatrix is with them.

http://tvthek.orf.at/profile/Oberoes...aares/14039291

fortimo 05-02-2017 01:30 PM

Some pictures and a video about this trip to Austria:
Top secret: Hollands Royals in Seewalchen | Nachrichten.at
Bildergalerie: Top secret: Hollands Royals in Seewalchen | Nachrichten.at

polyesco 05-02-2017 06:46 PM

:previous: more pictures on their trip to Austria
Ein königlicher Ausflug durch Salzburg - Radelnde Holländer - Stars & Society - krone.at

Alisa 05-03-2017 08:33 AM

Maxima's brother and s-i-l live in Austria.IIRC

polyesco 05-03-2017 01:01 PM

videos of the family at Austria and their arrival at the airport
Royaler Besuch in der Stadt Salzburg - Salzburg24.at

ashelen 05-03-2017 01:39 PM

William looks really annoyed with the press! but who can blame him? I am surprise Maxima's father could made the trip considering how fragile he is!

tommy100 05-03-2017 03:12 PM

I think theres a massive difference in the way Maxima and WA appear to handle the media, Maxima just seems to get on with it whilst WA goes out his way to get in their way.

BTW I thought they had sold that government jet?

Marengo 05-03-2017 03:44 PM

Tja... he does not control the foreign press as he does the Dutch one. So it can hardly be a surprise that there are photographers abroad. I am sure that none of these images of clips will be shown in Dutch magazines, papers or television.

Rossina 05-15-2017 08:38 AM

Thank you all for posting :flowers:
The new thread can be found here.


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