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XeniaCasaraghi 01-13-2013 10:03 PM

Should've listened to Mommy/Daddy
 
Has anybody ever thought about the royals who married against their parents wishes and it turned out their parents were quite right. The 2 who always come to mind is Nicholas II of Russia and the Emperor who insisted on marrying Sissi.

NGalitzine 01-13-2013 10:15 PM

Caroline de Monaco & Philippe Junot

Artemisia 01-13-2013 10:17 PM

Alfonso XIII of Spain and Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg.

TLLK 01-13-2013 11:27 PM

I've read that Frances Shand-Kydd tried to discourage Diana from marrying Charles.

HRHHermione 01-13-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NGalitzine (Post 1504965)
Caroline de Monaco & Philippe Junot

Also probably all of Stephanie's major relationships.

USCtrojan 01-14-2013 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TLLK (Post 1504973)
I've read that Frances Shand-Kydd tried to discourage Diana from marrying Charles.

Heard the same!

fearghas 01-14-2013 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Artemisia (Post 1504966)
Alfonso XIII of Spain and Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg.

I think in this case it was Ena who should ahve listened to her uncle. Edward VII was set against the mnarriage, probably because he knew the kind of an that Alfonso was.

fandesacs2003 01-14-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HRHHermione (Post 1504976)

Also probably all of Stephanie's major relationships.

Of course!

christythedreamer 01-14-2013 09:46 AM

I don't get it... why did Ena's uncle discourage her from marrying Alfonso?

Lee-Z 01-14-2013 01:44 PM

king Willem III married Sophia of Wurttemburg and that marriage was NOT a success. His mother had been against it from a start, but IMO that probably didn't help the marriage either...

So either he should have listened to mother or moved far far away from her :)

scooter 01-14-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NGalitzine (Post 1504965)
Caroline de Monaco & Philippe Junot

They wanted her married to Hanover originally. Not sure what a bargain this prince turned out to be.

Mariel 01-14-2013 09:31 PM

This prince did not turn out to be a bargain. To me it shows that mommy and daddy did not research very deeply into the prince, they were just in love with his title.

nascarlucy 01-14-2013 09:40 PM

In the old days, it was all about titles or trying to better one's self or forming alliances when it came to royal marriages. No one really cared if the couple got along or even liked each other. I imagine there was some who wished they hadn't listened to Mommy or Daddy.

COUNTESS 01-14-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by christythedreamer (Post 1505067)
I don't get it... why did Ena's uncle discourage her from marrying Alfonso?

He was not, mentally, stable.

Archduchess Zelia 01-14-2013 10:41 PM

Tsar Nicholas II, definitely.
However, there are also several prime examples of royals who most certainly shouldn't have listened to their parents, King Frederik VII and Princess Vilhelmine Marie of Denmark for instance.

Hayli 01-19-2013 09:52 PM

Lady Louise, daughter of Queen Victoria. She married the Marquess of Lorne (later Duke of Argyll) against the wishes of her mother. They drifted apart eventually, although this may have been because they were unable to have children.

Marengo 01-19-2013 11:02 PM

At the moment probably AD Karlof Austria. Half the family stayed away from his wedding to Franscesca Thyssen. And since the couple sadly seperated they gave this self righteous side of the family more reasons to feel self righteous.

HRH Patricia 01-20-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TLLK (Post 1504973)
I've read that Frances Shand-Kydd tried to discourage Diana from marrying Charles.

I thought it was that Frances didn't think it was a spectacular idea, but kept it to herself and didn't tell Diana? I thought I read that somewhere, but I could be wrong!
Although now that I think of it, there is something in The Diana Chronicles by Tina Brown. Frances wanted to know whether she loved Charles or loved 'what he is', Diana retorted: "What's the difference?".
How reliable that is, I don't know. But I think that book is a tad gossipy.

XeniaCasaraghi 09-14-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemisia (Post 1504966)
Alfonso XIII of Spain and Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg.

Anyone mind providing a little more info on this couple? I've never heard of them.

fearghas 09-15-2013 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi (Post 1599332)
Anyone mind providing a little more info on this couple? I've never heard of them.

He was the Grandfather of the current King of Spain, Juan Carlos, and she was the granddaughter of Queen Victoria through her youngest Princess Beatrice.
Amongst other things he was a mummys boy, weak willed and not very stable mentally. King Edward VII, Princess Enas uncle was against the marriage. I'm pretty sure that a worldy man such as he would have known what sort of man Alfonso was. I also think he disapproved of the volatie Spanish court and society and was concerned for Enas safety. Unfortunately Ena also brought her own problems, being considered cold and withdrawn by the Spanish people and bringing with her haemophilia.
There is an interesting story of their wedding day when a terrorist threw a bomb at the royal procession, killing several people and wounding others. While all the Spanish royal women were screaming and fainting and carrying on, Ena kept her cool and refused to allow herself to be incapicated by what was going on. For this she was disliked by the people for not showing enough emotion. The marriage fell apart after the revolution


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