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linneu 05-20-2012 08:17 AM

Newbie looking for information - Franz Joseph
 
I just discovered this forum while searching for info on the illegitimate children of Emperor Franz Joseph. The story circulating through my family is we are the descendants of a child born from an affair Franz Joseph had with a ballerina and he paid the mother a large sum of money. This info was found in a book many years ago by my mother, now deceased. For obvious reasons my family and I would like to confirm our lineage to Franz Joseph. I have come across a number of women he had affairs and or children with. Katharina Abel, I believe was a ballerina. Anna Nahowsky had a child and was was paid a large sum of money. Other possibilities are Rosa Moskowitch who was a laundress. Her daughter Margaret and was paid regularly by the Royal Office. Lastly there was a Polish countess Isabella Potocka?. I believe one of these women is my ancestor. If anyone is able to help me discover who she is I'd me very grateful. Thanks in advance. Linda

dazzling 05-26-2012 02:57 AM

Hi & :welcome:

marine2109 05-28-2012 04:55 PM

Hello linneu :welcome:

Rudolf 06-01-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linneu (Post 1415136)
I just discovered this forum while searching for info on the illegitimate children of Emperor Franz Joseph. The story circulating through my family is we are the descendants of a child born from an affair Franz Joseph had with a ballerina and he paid the mother a large sum of money. This info was found in a book many years ago by my mother, now deceased. For obvious reasons my family and I would like to confirm our lineage to Franz Joseph. I have come across a number of women he had affairs and or children with. Katharina Abel, I believe was a ballerina. Anna Nahowsky had a child and was was paid a large sum of money. Other possibilities are Rosa Moskowitch who was a laundress. Her daughter Margaret and was paid regularly by the Royal Office. Lastly there was a Polish countess Isabella Potocka?. I believe one of these women is my ancestor. If anyone is able to help me discover who she is I'd me very grateful. Thanks in advance. Linda

In my family is the convinced meaning, that my Grandmother is a decent from Emperor Franz Joseph. She is born in 1895 in Bruck an der Laitha (Kaisersteinbruch) in Austria nearby the hungarian border. Her father was a railway-man. Her familyname first was hungarian named Darway. I know, that relatives of my grandmother emigrated to the united states.I also try to find out the real story.
Rudolf

Rudolf 07-01-2012 04:09 PM

Emperor Franz Josef Austria
 
I gave answer to your Question -- I hear nothing from you.

Rudolf

Alexey 1904 07-03-2012 12:37 PM

Rudolf: If your grandmother was a descendant of Emperor Franz Josef, how can her 'father' have been a railway-man? What was your grandmother's first name? It was______ Darway. I think you should try and find out the "real story' before you will hear from Linneu. Just a suggestion. No harm intended.

FLDee 09-07-2013 11:38 AM

We have a similar story in my family. We were told my great, great grandmother had two children by Franz Joseph (a girl and then a boy who look just like him).

She fled to the U.S. in 1896 with her children and a butler from the palace named Albert Kitto, who she later married. My great, great grandmother's name was Franciska Knopaska. Can anyone tell me how I can find more information?

AdmirerUS 09-07-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by linneu (Post 1415136)
I just discovered this forum while searching for info on the illegitimate children of Emperor Franz Joseph. The story circulating through my family is we are the descendants of a child born from an affair Franz Joseph had with a ballerina and he paid the mother a large sum of money. This info was found in a book many years ago by my mother, now deceased. For obvious reasons my family and I would like to confirm our lineage to Franz Joseph. I have come across a number of women he had affairs and or children with. Katharina Abel, I believe was a ballerina. Anna Nahowsky had a child and was was paid a large sum of money. Other possibilities are Rosa Moskowitch who was a laundress. Her daughter Margaret and was paid regularly by the Royal Office. Lastly there was a Polish countess Isabella Potocka?. I believe one of these women is my ancestor. If anyone is able to help me discover who she is I'd me very grateful. Thanks in advance. Linda

I'd approach this by doing a genealogical search for your family, and alternately any/all of these women. That to me, is the best way to discover if you have a potential connection. An ancestry search site might be helpful - although they charge fees.

If you find a connection - then there will be a lot of Franz Joseph study and may necessitate going through private family/friend letters to see if there was a relationship.

Don't be surprised at the amount of research you may have to do to build evidence of the connection. Happy hunting.

FLDee 11-03-2013 10:24 AM

Still searching
 
I now beleive the spelling of the Valet who married my great-great grandmother, Franciszka Knopaska, after she had two children by Emperor Franz Joseph in 1895 and 1896 is Alese Kita.

I am assuming he worked as a valet at Schonbrunn Palace. Any ideas how I can search the names of Valets at Schonbrunn Palace in 1895?

LadyTeresa 12-26-2013 05:06 AM

There is so much mystery concerning the family of Joseph I. You will read a lot of stories and still... may never know the answers. The family was very good at keeping secrets.
The search is very interesting, fun, and great exercise for the brain.
Don't look for financial gain, that will only spoil the journey.

FLDee 12-26-2013 09:24 AM

Lady Teresa,

Thank you for your reply. Yes, the search is very interesting. I am reading "The Reluctant Empress" by Brigette Hamann and have discovered a fascinating woman and a family with many secrets. I know that Alese Kita was a Valet for Franz Joseph, but I do not know how my great, great Grandmother, Countess Knopaska, came to meet Franz Joseph in 1895 and have 2 children by him and then leave with his valet and the children to the U.S. I would love to search the names of Valets at the Hofburg and Schonbrunn Palace, but do not even know where to begin. The search continues!


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