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Jayah 04-29-2011 09:35 PM

Wedding of William & Catherine: Something old...new...borrowed and blue
 
I wonder if Princess Catherine followed this old tradition?:flowers:

Sister Morphine 04-29-2011 09:47 PM

For starters, she is not Princess Catherine. She's Princess William, The Duchess of Cambridge. We know that her tiara was borrowed, her earrings were new as they were gifts from her parents, she had pieces of lace from a dress of Diana's sown into the waist of her skirt, so that was old, as for the blue......perhaps she had a blue stitch somewhere on the inside of her dress.

Iluvbertie 04-29-2011 09:47 PM

The something borrowed was the tiara.

The something new presumably the dress.

So - the something old - the engagement ring???

Something blue - ???

Sister Morphine 04-29-2011 09:48 PM

Maybe the blue was her engagement ring.

Jayah 04-29-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Morphine (Post 1245210)
For starters, she is not Princess Catherine. She's Princess William, The Duchess of Cambridge. We know that her tiara was borrowed, her earrings were new as they were gifts from her parents, she had pieces of lace from a dress of Diana's sown into the waist of her skirt, so that was old, as for the blue......perhaps she had a blue stitch somewhere on the inside of her dress.

Yes I realise what her official title is ...... but she's such a lovely young lady, and every bit a princess, that she deserves the title. I'll think of her as "Princess". I'm glad she used some lace from one of Diana's dresses on her gown.

MRSJ 04-29-2011 10:06 PM

She had a blue ribbon sewn into her dress per Royalreporter

jonc93 04-29-2011 10:12 PM

Old Is her underwear! ;)
New Is her dress, earrings and shoes
Borrowed Is her tiara
Blue Us her engagement ring

Just my guesses!

MRSJ 04-29-2011 10:13 PM

Per Royalreporter Twitter-

Old is influences of Carrickmacross and Arts and Crafs on dress design. New is earrings, a gift from her parents. Borrowed is tiara. Blue is ribbon sewn into dress

Sister Morphine 04-29-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayah (Post 1245216)
Yes I realise what her official title is ...... but she's such a lovely young lady, and every bit a princess, that she deserves the title. I'll think of her as "Princess". I'm glad she used some lace from one of Diana's dresses on her gown.


I didn't say she wasn't a princess, she is. She's Princess William. However her husband's peerage is a senior rank to just a prince, so she doesn't use the title Princess William, she uses The Duchess of Cambridge.

Iluvbertie 04-29-2011 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayah (Post 1245216)
Yes I realise what her official title is ...... but she's such a lovely young lady, and every bit a princess, that she deserves the title. I'll think of her as "Princess". I'm glad she used some lace from one of Diana's dresses on her gown.


You are free to call her a princess - she is.

What she isn't is Princess Catherine. She wasn't born a princess and in Britain that means she doesn't becomes a Princess with her own name.

Her formal title is Duchess of Cambridge.

Island Princess 04-30-2011 12:33 AM

The Duchess of Cambridge will be known informally, to royal watchers, fans and the press, as Princess Kate or Princess Catherine. Diana was known as Princess Di and the Queen Mother was known as Queen Mum. It's a British 'tradition' and indicates the affection the public hold for these royals.
I'm sure in light of all the media coverage over the last few days everyone is more than aware what the correct titles are.
I think it's lovely that people wish to express affection by coining 'pet' names for the royals and this forum is an appropriate place to do that surely? It's not as though we are writing formal correspondence to the Palace, after all.

Madame Royale 04-30-2011 12:39 AM

:previous: 'Pet' names should be observed by those who are personally familiar with the indavidual, imo.

I always wince when someone speaks of someone else in an overly familiar manner as though they are good friends and yet they do not know them personally. I find it odd.

In any case, royal watchers are generally sticklers for correct forms of address ;):biggrin:

Eiether that or they just refer to them by their given name.

Island Princess 04-30-2011 12:44 AM

Pet names to someone's face when one barely knows them is odd, agreed, but in the context of a public figure on a forum set up to discuss almost every aspect of their lives, not so much.

Madame Royale 04-30-2011 12:51 AM

The medium of communication in which the pet name is expressed, or who infact it's expressed too, is irrelevant. I still find it quite odd.

But I speak only on my behalf and what it is I've observed of course :smile:

Mirabel 04-30-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1245270)
You are free to call her a princess - she is.

What she isn't is Princess Catherine. She wasn't born a princess and in Britain that means she doesn't becomes a Princess with her own name.

Her formal title is Duchess of Cambridge.


You're right of course, but I'm betting that the media will continue to use Princess Catherine (or Kate) no matter how often they are corrected!

That's what they did with Diana and they probably won't care if someone informs them that they got the title wrong. JMO.

Kataryn 04-30-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1245270)
You are free to call her a princess - she is.

What she isn't is Princess Catherine. She wasn't born a princess and in Britain that means she doesn't becomes a Princess with her own name.

Her formal title is Duchess of Cambridge.

We'll see if Charles on becomeing king does not grant her the style of "Princess Catherine" - after all he said he thinks of her as the daughter he never had. And his daughter would of course be "Princess Catherine of Wales" and later "The Princess Catherine".

Sister Morphine 04-30-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 1245642)
We'll see if Charles on becomeing king does not grant her the style of "Princess Catherine" - after all he said he thinks of her as the daughter he never had. And his daughter would of course be "Princess Catherine of Wales" and later "The Princess Catherine".


Charles can't create her Princess Catherine of Wales because the "of Wales" denotes the son/daughter of the PoW, and when Charles is King, he will no longer be The Prince of Wales.

Royal_Eagle 04-30-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 1245642)
We'll see if Charles on becomeing king does not grant her the style of "Princess Catherine" - after all he said he thinks of her as the daughter he never had. And his daughter would of course be "Princess Catherine of Wales" and later "The Princess Catherine".

Nice idea, although since Catherine will always be called Duchess of Cambridge and then The Princess of Wales (assuming Prince William becomes the next Prince of Wales) and eventually Queen Catherine, there may not be much point in making her a Princess in her right by the time Charles becomes King. That is assuming Catherine has been supporting the Royal Family very well for all the years up to that point.

In other words, it's possible that King Charles might make her a Princess in her own right as a reward for service to the Royal Family, etc, but not just for the sake of making her a Princess. However I don't think it's a huge deal though.

As for the media, they're going to get it wrong, but at least the official reports (Court Circulars, etc) will call her correctly.

Kataryn 04-30-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Morphine (Post 1245720)
Charles can't create her Princess Catherine of Wales because the "of Wales" denotes the son/daughter of the PoW, and when Charles is King, he will no longer be The Prince of Wales.

I didn't meant hat Charles could make her "Princess Catherine of Wales" but that if he had a daughter named Catherine, this daughter (which in reality he never got) would be HRH Princess Catherine of Wales. Just like his son Henry is HRH Prince Harry of Wales... (last example shows that it is possible to use Pet-names in official titles.

Sister Morphine 04-30-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kataryn (Post 1245889)
I didn't meant hat Charles could make her "Princess Catherine of Wales" but that if he had a daughter named Catherine, this daughter (which in reality he never got) would be HRH Princess Catherine of Wales. Just like his son Henry is HRH Prince Harry of Wales... (last example shows that it is possible to use Pet-names in official titles.


Yes, if Charles and Diana had a daughter named Catherine, she'd be HRH Princess Catherine of Wales, and upon her father's accession to the throne, HRH The Princess Catherine.

I misunderstood what you meant originally.


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