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rmay286 12-06-2010 07:42 PM

The Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein Controversy
 
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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 1170880)
I think that the press smells blood.

I think you are right!

His Buffoon Highness strikes again: Prince Andrew parties with his sex offender pal | Mail Online

Wow, the attacks just keep coming...

HRH Princess Sonya 12-06-2010 09:51 PM

Wow PA seems to be damned by the press no matter what he does. If he ran into oncoming traffic to save a small child from being hit by a car the press would say he staged it.:bang:

fergalicious 12-15-2010 05:00 PM

@ Mermaid1962 I'm smirking at all that, too. Yellow muckraking press, dirt, mud-slinging, libellous and slanderous articles, just boring. A litter bin is worth more than that! jaja :lol:

AnnEliza 12-15-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HRH Princess Sonya (Post 1171451)
Wow PA seems to be damned by the press no matter what he does. If he ran into oncoming traffic to save a small child from being hit by a car the press would say he staged it.:bang:

That does seem to be the way of it -- if he'd let Sarah crash and burn, he'd be criticized for that, too. He can do no right, it seems.

NotAPretender 02-21-2011 01:32 PM

A few more details about Andrew's visit to his friend stateside in December:

Seen around town: Prince Andrew and perv billionaire Jeffrey Epstein stroll around New York City - NYPOST.com

Hot and cold running cuties for the pair, evidently.

Russophile 02-21-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NotAPretender (Post 1207895)
A few more details about Andrew's visit to his friend stateside in December:

Seen around town: Prince Andrew and perv billionaire Jeffrey Epstein stroll around New York City - NYPOST.com

Hot and cold running cuties for the pair, evidently.

Gee that will go a long way for HRH to polish his tarnished image.

Mermaid1962 02-21-2011 08:12 PM

Yes. There's no evidence that Andrew did anything wrong on his trip to New York, but his company is certainly questionable.


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Originally Posted by Russophile (Post 1207970)
Gee that will go a long way for HRH to polish his tarnished image.


Irish Eyes 02-26-2011 09:00 PM

Pictured: Prince Andrew and the 17-year-old girl his sex offender friend flew to Britain to meet him | Mail Online

The Daily Mail had a go at Fergie and Beatrice during the week so I suppose it's back to Andrew now.
A few more headlines like this and I think his Trade Envoy role will really be in jeopardy. His "Friend" sounds like bad news and i hope Andrew has nothing more to do with him.

Iluvbertie 02-26-2011 09:50 PM

The DM have never reported positively about Andrew so what is new but ... I do think he needs to step down from his position and retire from public life after this.

Mermaid1962 02-27-2011 12:16 AM

This is looking quite bad for Andrew, I agree. I feel badly for his daughters. The DM is getting more and more daring as far as Andrew's connections are concerned. If there aren't out-and-out denials issued about this latest article--with proof to back up those denials--Andrew's public role is over.

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1210642)
The DM have never reported positively about Andrew so what is new but ... I do think he needs to step down from his position and retire from public life after this.


Iluvbertie 02-27-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 1210665)
This is looking quite bad for Andrew, I agree. I feel badly for his daughters. The DM is getting more and more daring as far as Andrew's connections are concerned. If there aren't out-and-out denials issued about this latest article--with proof to back up those denials--Andrew's public role is over.


The story that he meet a 17 year old 10 years ago, for a night out, with nothing else happening isn't a problem for me but...that he openly associates with pedophiles is - that should be a no no for anyone of any integrity.

Time to go Andrew - live on one of Mummy's estates and stay away from the public life for the next 40 years.

rmay286 02-27-2011 12:55 AM

Interestingly, I can't open the Daily Mail link. I can see the headline on their sidebar when I go to the Daily Mail home page, and I can open up all their other articles without any problem, but not the article about Andrew and the sex offender. I wonder if someone has blocked it?

Can someone tell me what the article is about?

Mermaid1962 02-27-2011 01:01 AM

I'm sending you a private message, rmay286.

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Originally Posted by rmay286 (Post 1210675)
Interestingly, I can't open the Daily Mail link. I can see the headline on their sidebar when I go to the Daily Mail home page, and I can open up all their other articles without any problem, but not the article about Andrew and the sex offender. I wonder if someone has blocked it?

Can someone tell me what the article is about?


Iluvbertie 02-27-2011 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rmay286 (Post 1210675)
Interestingly, I can't open the Daily Mail link. I can see the headline on their sidebar when I go to the Daily Mail home page, and I can open up all their other articles without any problem, but not the article about Andrew and the sex offender. I wonder if someone has blocked it?

Can someone tell me what the article is about?


I have just gone to the site and have had no problems opening it.

Mermaid1962 02-27-2011 01:11 AM

I didn't have any trouble either. I noticed that more pics of the young woman have been added.


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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1210680)
I have just gone to the site and have had no problems opening it.


Mermaid1962 02-27-2011 01:14 AM

It might be too late. The pictures of the two of them walking together have been published. What has seen cannot be unseen.

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Originally Posted by Irish Eyes (Post 1210635)

His "Friend" sounds like bad news and i hope Andrew has nothing more to do with him.


rmay286 02-27-2011 01:14 AM

You're right, I can open it now. Strange, though. For about 10 minutes I couldn't open the link, maybe because they were adding new pictures?

Having read the article, I agree with Iluvbertie...Prince Andrew may have not known who he was associating with 10 years ago, but after this man's conviction, he should have known better than to hang around with him.

I can't really see this costing him his job, though...

Mermaid1962 02-27-2011 01:29 AM

I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt; but now that Andrew's friendship with this convicted man is known, there'll be a large question mark over his head as to his judgement. Should a man who lacks the wisdom to avoid a convicted pedophile's company be a person with a high-profile, responsible position where a lot of judgement is needed? It's not just that this man is Andrew's associate; it's that Andrew didn't seem to see a problem with going for a walk with him in public. There was apparently no concern that his friendship with this pedophile would be publicly noted and recorded. Even if Andrew's person behaviour has been above-board, he doesn't seem to understand that a person is often judged by the company he keeps.


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Originally Posted by rmay286 (Post 1210683)
I can't really see this costing him his job, though...


rmay286 02-27-2011 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 1210685)
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt; but now that Andrew's friendship with this convicted man is known, there'll be a large question mark over his head as to his judgement. Should a man who lacks the wisdom to avoid a convicted pedophile's company be a person with a high-profile, responsible position where a lot of judgement is needed? It's not just that this man is Andrew's associate; it's that Andrew didn't seem to see a problem with going for a walk with him in public. There was apparently no concern that his friendship with this pedophile would be publicly noted and recorded. Even if Andrew's person behaviour has been above-board, he doesn't seem to understand that a person is often judged by the company he keeps.

Oh, I agree that Prince Andrew often hangs around with questionable people. I'm sure there is more that goes on behind the scenes than even the Daily Mail can uncover. I don't think Andrew has very good judgment, really. It's just that he has associated with questionable people before, and after an initial outcry, it hasn't ever forced him to resign...and frankly, a lot of people in public positions hang around with shady characters.

Spending time with a convicted pedophile is pretty sketchy; but it really depends on what UKTI decides. Public outry in the papers alone can't affect Andrew's role one way or the other.

I must say, though, that on the whole I don't think Andrew is any better a judge of people than Sarah is. She's just much more of a risk-taker and ends up doing questionable things, publicly, with the aforesaid people...but neither of them seem to have good sense when it comes to who they associate with.

Mirabel 02-27-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1210674)
Time to go Andrew - live on one of Mummy's estates and stay away from the public life for the next 40 years.

Surely he doesn't need to become a recluse?
Why not devote himself to more charity work, perhaps more with injured military personnel?
(Something like that would gradually reestablish his reputation with the public).


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