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Johan 01-17-2011 06:27 AM

Prince Nicholas (son of Ferdinand and Marie) (1903-1978)
 
After Nicholas made the morganatic marriage with Joanna Dumitrescu-Doletti, he was exiled by his brother King Carol II.

Was he ever able to return to Romania after Carol left Romania, or after the 2nd World War (before the family was exiled in Dec 1947/ Jan 1948.

IIRC he inheritted property from his mother in Venice? Is this true?

Does anyone have some interesting information about him, apart from his birth and death information.

Lenora 01-17-2011 09:01 AM

Well,he never received any rights again.
After the death of his first wife,he married second time a Brazilian woman Theresa Lisboa Figueira de Mello ,with no issue of either marriage.
He was deprived of his rights,lived under the name of "Nicolae Brana" and never returned to Romania.

Cory 04-24-2011 11:55 AM

This is not really so:Prince Nicolae received back his princely title from King Mihai I and he was Prince of Hohenzollern until his death.

CyrilVladisla 05-05-2014 10:05 PM

In 1927 Nicholas founded and he was the first President of the Romanian Kennel Club.
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Originally Posted by USCtrojan (Post 1665382)
So, Prince Nicolae married twice and had no issue?

There were different photographs of His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas on Pinterest.
One picture was accompanied by a short biography, which stated:
Nicholas had no children.

USCtrojan 05-15-2014 05:07 PM

So, Prince Nicolae married twice and had no issue?

Cory 05-15-2014 07:39 PM

He did not have children and he was not too close to his nephew, the King. The has always been very loyal to his Hohenzollern Family and had very good relations with the German Princes of Hohenzollern.

He should be buried at Curtea de Arges with his parents and brother.

Carol II had a better dialogue with his sister Elisabeta.

Did he ever meet his brother in exile after 1940?

His second eife was Catholic. Did they had a Catholic marriage?

eya 10-24-2015 11:19 AM

I did not know too much about this "other" Nicolae. Another "victim" of King Carol II. I wonder Carol liked or loved someone from his family;

Cory 03-03-2016 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenora (Post 1193123)
Well,he never received any rights again.
After the death of his first wife,he married second time a Brazilian woman Theresa Lisboa Figueira de Mello ,with no issue of either marriage.
He was deprived of his rights,lived under the name of "Nicolae Brana" and never returned to Romania.

He was deprived of his titles only few years. He was restored to his titles by his nephew,King Mihai I.

Cory 03-15-2016 05:37 AM

Did Theresa de Mello remained Catholic all her life. Her marriage was a Catholic marriage?

Cory 06-26-2016 03:04 PM

It is rather interesting that after 1941 Prince Nicholas used almost only the title of Prince of Hohenzllern that was given back to him by his nephew, King Mihai I. The Prince kept until his death a very close dialogue with the members of His Family from Siegmaringen and his wifes were both accepted also by the Hohenzollerns.

Cory 08-10-2016 04:54 PM

Now that the new Orthodox church is finished at Curtea de Arges the remains of Prince Nicholas could be brought there by his nephews and nieces.

Cory 08-10-2016 05:57 PM

At Curtea de Arges are two Catholic Kings buried and now a Catholic Queen will be buried.
I have never heard Prince Nicholas converted at Catholicism.

Benjamin 08-10-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1915626)
At Curtea de Arges are two Catholic Kings buried and now a Catholic Queen will be buried.
I have never heard Prince Nicholas converted at Catholicism.

How strange - one guesses you are not well informed of the Romanian realities, especially when it comes to the royal diaspora.

I will have to look through my files to find the exact date of his conversion.

Moving either Nicholas or his second wife would be difficult: Paul Lambrino is technically the heir to their estate in Romania after having purchased the rights from Tereza's son Andres. Paul has virtually disappeared from public view since being investigated for corruption. One imagines he has more pressing matters to worry about than digging up a great-uncle that he never met.

Cory 08-10-2016 07:47 PM

I am not in expert in the history of the Romanian Royal Family but I am always happy to know new details of this history.
The story of the conversion to Catholicism of Prince Nicholas is not enough known probably.

Cory 08-10-2016 08:12 PM

So he was the only child of King Ferdinand that accepted in the end the faith of the King and of his paternal ancestors.

Benjamin 08-10-2016 08:15 PM

Prince Nicholas seems to have been the only member of the Romanian Royal Family to ever convert from the religion of their birth.

Cory 08-10-2016 08:18 PM

I do not think this fact is known in Romania. His first wife I suppose was Orthodox but the second one certainly Catholic.
Any articles about his conversion are available in French or English?

Cory 08-10-2016 09:31 PM

I would be very interested to see it. I knew he was close to his Hohenzollern relatives but I did not know he also shared their faith in his last 15 years of life.

Cory 08-10-2016 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 1915688)
If you would like to PM me your email, I can scan it and send it to you tomorrow.

Thank you so much.


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