Rachel Lorenz - Australian claiming to be Belgium duchess
 

I really don't know where to post this, so i apologize in advance if it is in the wrong place.

Are you aware that there is an Australian claiming to be "Duchess" Rachel Lorenz?

Please look at these articles

Rachael Lorenz

Duchess Lorenz spotted in Hervey Bay | Sunshine Coast News | Local News in Sunshine Coast | The Sunshine Coast Daily

Rachael Lorenz (I) - Biography

http://www.free-press-release.com/ne...287438584.html

http://twitter.com/Rachaellorenz

Her article has been removed from wikipedia as it was debunked, but how can we stop her from doing this?

I have never heard of her. Is she really a Belgian Duchess?

"We" can not stop her or anyone else from doing what they want. We all have to use our common sense in what we read and what we believe. Unless it is important to you whether this person in a duchess or not I would suggest just ignore her claim.

Exactly, there's always someone claiming to be "royalty" and they want attention. It's really pathetic.

And I'm the love child of Don Juan Carlos . . . just thought you may all like to know :biggrin:

We must be half siblings then!

crytycalmass from Kali Vida
 

'crytycalmass' It seems you have something personal against this person as upon looking at the Wikipedia thread in the past (which I am a moderator on) you had a lot to say and nothing you said was of much relevance. There are a lot of royalty forms in Australia, or from Australia and or originating from Australia such as our divine Princess Mary for example.

From what I have heard she (Rachel) is in fact very much so a real Duchess, there are different levels you know... It's not as if she is the Queen of England.

If anything the lady you refer to appears to be extremely modest and kindhearted from my readings.

Having briefly read through the above links, I noticed there was no mention of her parents. Surely if someone boasted such lineage, their parents too would have a wikipedia page or at best, be mentioned on this indaviduals profile?

There are known to be members of the cadet branches of the Imperial Romanov dynasty and Royal House of France residing in Australia I believe, but they maintain absolute anonymity. They are just people with an incredibly fascinating ancestral link.

There was some crack pott claiming to be a Princess of Egypt living in an outter suburb of Melbourne some time ago, and made up the most pitiful website sighting her "claim" to the Egyptian throne. A sad case really. Clearly psychologically unwell.

Whoever this woman is, I've not heard of her and from what has been stated in the above links, we would be likely to move in the same social circles if true.

http://www.starnewsgroup.com.au/star...ry/113218.html

The above article clearly suggests to me that this woman is quite the attention seeker and has well and truly started to believe in her own ficticious fantasy.

* An aristocrat would not reside in the western suburbs of metropolitan Melbourne.

* St Albans is a lower class working area located in Melbourne's North West. It boasts a large interest in governmental benefits and the residents have a reputation of being, and do excuse the expression, rather trashy. The area also boasts an indecent lack in social responsibility amongst youth and adults alike, and is known to be one of Melbourne's unsafest areas with a supporting crime rate to boot.

* Happy to "confirm" she's a Duchess but falls short of naming the cadet branch or even where she is infact from? Turn it up 'sweetheart'.

* Unable to attest her claimed identity

* The supposed title on her bank and credit cards is also ludicrous. It's easy enough for someone to change their name or title, in a completely legal manner. And there's no evidence that her cards even have these titles displayed. It's only what she's claiming.

* Explains why I've never heard of her.

Quite simply, she's dilluded.

We can't, and it doesn't harm anyone, so why should we?
If she likes claiming lies then let her. :smile:

I wonder, how can the above mentioned person hold the titles 'Duchess of Belgium' and 'Archduchess of Austria-Este' simultaneously.:ermm:
If my memory serves me right, the titles 'Prince/Princess of Belgium' were granted by King to Archduke Lorenz and his children from Princess Astrid.
Is this person one of HM the King of the Belgians grandchildren? I don't think so.:whistling:
This person ought to study history better.

She probably copied those titles from Wikipedia.

I think that this thread should be under the heading "nonsense" mind you she could possibly be related to Prince von Anhalt Zsa Zsa Gabor´s husband, that is if she actaully bought the title. I have an inkling she didn´t even do that.
The world is full of gullible people, and I believe by law you can call yourself whatever you like so if she is getting away with it the best thing is to giggle when you hear about it. It is a bit difficult to be a Duchess without being royal or marrying a Duke, not exactly a run of the mill title to be born with.

It is self-evident that that woman is not a royal a Belgian royal and neither a royal at all.
First of all, the title Duke/Duchess of Belgium never existed.
Secondly, the first link (to wikibin) claims that her titles are "Duchess of Austria-Este, Duchess of Modena, Duchess Imperial of Austria, Duchess Royal of Hungary and Bohemia": none of these titles exist except Duchess of Modena, but since the current (titular) Duchess of Modena is Princess Astrid of Belgium, definitely this Rachael Lorenz can't be (unless, of course, Princess Astrid works as an actress in Australia and has a second husband there and all we don't know that. But I really don't think this is possible).
Thirdly, I wonder how much is reliable the wikibin article, since at the end of Rachael Lorenz's page I see a link to an alleged "Archduke Christoph Franz of Austria-Este" who is supposed to be son of the alleged-as-well Archduke Fulvio, Duke of Padova, and Princess Maria Luise of Brunswick-Luneburg. Again it's all false, none of them exists and in particular the title Duke of Padova never existed.
I really wouldn't give any credit to the claims of this woman.

In theory I agree, but how do we know it doesn´t harm anyone.? From the articles it seems the most she gets out of this sham is invitations from gullible people to society affairs, and her name (false though it may be).
There are certainly many liars on this planet but luckily there are many people who have no problem seeing through them.
As to doing something about it, there doesn´t seem to be anything to be done except feel sorry for the people who are catering to this imposter.

Which social circles in the Western suburbs do you mix in?

This 'duchess Rachel' ranks right up there with a girl named Alexandra who says she is the only 'survived' inheritor of Grand Duchess Tatiana, whom she said survived Ekaterinberg, and now calls herself 'Her Imperial Majesty', Empress of Russia'. Talk about deluded!