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Zonk 08-02-2010 07:44 PM

Charlene Wittstock's Education & Swimming Career
 
The purpose of this thread is to discuss the education and swimming career of Charlene Wittstock, fiancee of HSH Prince Albert II of Monaco.


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Zonk 08-02-2010 09:07 PM

Let's try to have a civil discussion PLEASE.

We can talk about what the Palace has said about Charlene's education, what we have found out, the discrepancies, etc. As long as it is done in a civil manner, and please provide sources to support your view point.

Having such a thread will remove the ongoing discussions in the Current Events and the Relationship thread.

Thank you!

Zonk

NGalitzine 08-02-2010 10:05 PM

I suppose we should differentiate between academic education (diplomas) and life lessons learned.
Generally speaking becoming a national champion and an Olympic athlete takes years of training and in addition to having a lot of natural talent it also takes intelligence,dedication and discipline. These lessons can take you many places in later life.

hibou 08-02-2010 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGalitzine (Post 1120030)
I suppose we should differentiate between academic education (diplomas) and life lessons learned.
Generally speaking becoming a national champion and an Olympic athlete takes years of training and in addition to having a lot of natural talent it also takes intelligence,dedication and discipline. These lessons can take you many places in later life.

Fair enough to separate the academic from the other. Different sports require different types of thinking processes. So may be we should look at what type of thinking process is involved in swimming? It's quite different from say skiing or equestrian sports.

CrownPrincess5 08-03-2010 12:28 AM

Can someone give me an update on her education background?

Lumutqueen 08-03-2010 02:21 AM

Charlene Wittstock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Her wiki site was updated by a member of this forum, Lady MacAlpine I believe.
They personally found out the information and corrected the wiki article.

Wisteria 08-03-2010 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGalitzine (Post 1120030)
in addition to having a lot of natural talent it also takes intelligence,dedication and discipline.

While I understand that it takes dedication and discipline to become a swimming champion, and letīs not forget strength, but why does a person have to be intelligent? As hibou said, what thinking processes are involved?

rosana 08-03-2010 03:41 AM

Is it not a thread about education? What does a sport have to do?

CW has not finished high school, period. I donīt think thereīs much to be discussed. She will represent a country, in which way? time will tell. Some princesses are only pieces of decoration. Others are involved in causes, even though, i would never call that a job.

Wisteria 08-03-2010 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosana (Post 1120089)
Is it not a thread about education? What does a sport have to do?

.

Well if this is about education and she never finished hers and all articles about her say is that she was a swimming champion then what can we say about her, she wears nice clothes? A bit difficult actually to find much to say, and it has been said that she doesnīt even speak French. So really what is the use of a thread based on her education? :whistling:

Renata4711 08-03-2010 05:48 AM

My feelings exactly, Wisteria.

The fact that we know so very little about her educational background does not inspire confidence !!

iceflower 08-03-2010 06:02 AM

The reason for opening this thread has been the fact that several members
have felt the need and interest to talk about Charlene Wittstock's education,
we already have pages filled with that. But as these posts didn't fit into the
relationship-thread or any other thread we've had so far, this thread has been
opened as an extra offer. Those members who are not interested in it or have
already read enough about it in the existing threads - which is equally
understandable - should leave it out respectively ignore it.

Wisteria 08-03-2010 06:28 AM

I canīt be classed as not interested on the contrary I am very interested to know what can be said about the education of someone who it is said did not finish her education, this should prove to be very interesting indeed. Sports seem not to be classified as education so here I am on tenterhooks waiting to see what comes out of this Charleneīs education thread.

Renata4711 08-03-2010 07:54 AM

Same here ! Being an educationalist myself, any discipline interests me, including sport.

I'm very happy to wait for news about anything which concerns CW's education in whatever subject(s).

Many thanks to you, Iceflower, for making this thread available.

hibou 08-03-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosana (Post 1120089)
Is it not a thread about education? What does a sport have to do?

CW has not finished high school, period. I donīt think thereīs much to be discussed. She will represent a country, in which way? time will tell. Some princesses are only pieces of decoration. Others are involved in causes, even though, i would never call that a job.

Some sports require very fast decision making which is a type of critical thinking skill. The ability to analyze and react quickly is a brain process. There is a book called "Blink" which discusses why some of us can do this and others of us can't. Worth reading. Equestrian sports require just this skill. If your horse makes a mistake down a line of very big fences as we've seen Charlotte jump, you only have one horse's stride to make a change in the game plan. The same is true for skiing and fencing for example.

Charlene said in her very first interview that she left school at a very young age to swim. There are documents that indicate that she never attended college. The wiki portion containing her education is accurate. Not completing a college degree does not may one dumb but it does make one uneducated. For those of us who come out of rigorous academic training, I have found that it enhances one's life experience because it widens your horizons and if you have good professors, it can make you change your view on many things in life.

Zonk 08-03-2010 11:40 AM

This title of this thread has been changed to include discussion of Charlene's Swimming Career and/or Achievements.

LadyMacAlpine 08-03-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1120062)
Charlene Wittstock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Her wiki site was updated by a member of this forum, Lady MacAlpine I believe.
They personally found out the information and corrected the wiki article.

I received the information from Rocco Meiring after contacting the University of Pretoria to find out when she attended the University as the Wiki page implied. Plus people were arguing she was a school teacher because the Palace said so. The official Palace site said she was a youth worker not school teacher. The press took youth worker and turned it into school teacher.

As far as her dropping out of school I haven't seen it verified and I can't find an article that says more than she left home at 17, at which age she could have graduated. In one of her mothers recent interviews except I can't tell you where I read it at this point she said Charlene had to learn to walk in heels for what I thought might be the same as our graduation. Charlene said she didn't do well in school and all she cared about was swimming. Personally, I have become bored with Charlene and all the bickering over Albert being a deadbeat Dad when I know it isn't true. Unless my health improves I'm not going to attempt to hang over the computer to do more research on her education. This is a partial list of schools in SA if anyone wants to do the research instead of speculating and arguing over it. More

Renata4711 08-03-2010 01:21 PM

Great images, Lady Mac - many thanks !! Hope you get better soon.

As to CW's Curriculum vitae, I think the Palace and PA may have shot themselves in the foot by not releasing a proper CV.

They should have known that there would be a feeding frenzy about CW's academic and personal past.

hibou 08-03-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renata4711 (Post 1120268)
Great images, Lady Mac - many thanks !! Hope you get better soon.

As to CW's Curriculum vitae, I think the Palace and PA may have shot themselves in the foot by not releasing a proper CV.

They should have known that there would be a feeding frenzy about CW's academic and personal past.

I agree Renata. Thanks for all your hard work LadyMac. It certainly clarifies fact from fiction. Hope you feel better soon!

LadyS 08-03-2010 01:39 PM

There was an article in The Star newpaper which gave the details of her schooling and also The Citizen newspaper had the interview with her mother. According to the articles [also articles in the You Magazine] she attended Tom Newby Primary school and Benoni High School. I think the websites might still have the articles.

Wisteria 08-03-2010 01:44 PM

Youth worker, well that clears everything up. As to arguing about it, it would have to be a more interesting subject to get me to that point. So far I find the whole subject boring but I was just interested to know how a thread could be about what seemed to be an inexistent subject, now that the name has been changed to include "and swimming career" it seems much better.


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