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wbenson 07-11-2010 11:50 PM

Options for Sarah to recover from the 'Cash for Access' scandal
 
Now the Queen steps in to bail out 'bankrupt' Fergie | Mail Online

The Queen is being forced to pay to turn the Duchess of York’s life around, saving her from bankruptcy.

Sarah is almost 2million in debt after a series of disastrous business deals and is being sued by a firm of solicitors for more than 200,000.

Now her former husband Prince Andrew has ordered his private office at Buckingham Palace - which is financed by 249,000 a year from the Queen’s own pocket - to sort out her financial difficulties and cut her spending.

Mermaid1962 07-12-2010 01:16 AM

I think that HM and Prince Andrew have made a shrewd move. Someone needs to control Sarah, because she seemingly can't control herself. I wonder whether the Duke of York feels some residual guilt over not being able to be around for Sarah in the early years of their marriage?:ermm:

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Originally Posted by wbenson (Post 1110001)


Lighthouse 07-12-2010 02:24 AM

Why treat faithful staff like that?

Iluvbertie 07-12-2010 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lighthouse (Post 1110035)
Why treat faithful staff like that?


If you are virtually bankrupt you have to sack the staff no matter how faithful they have been. She has no choice.

Lumutqueen 07-12-2010 04:21 AM

I can't believe the Queen is bailing out Sarah, she shouldn't have to do that.

Mermaid1962 07-12-2010 04:33 AM

I don't think that she necessarily "has to", but the alternative is the embarrassing situation of her former daughter-in-law facing bankruptcy court and making goodness-knows-what sorts of business contracts to pull herself out of debt. Given Sarah's propensity for giving tactless interviews and showing a lack of judgement in how she conducts herself, perhaps she has had to give assurances about her behaviour in exchange for this help.


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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1110057)
I can't believe the Queen is bailing out Sarah, she shouldn't have to do that.


Lumutqueen 07-12-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 1110062)
I don't think that she necessarily "has to", but the alternative is the embarrassing situation of her former daughter-in-law facing bankruptcy court and making goodness-knows-what sorts of business contracts to pull herself out of debt. Given Sarah's propensity for giving tactless interviews and showing a lack of judgement in how she conducts herself, perhaps she has had to give assurances about her behaviour in exchange for this help.

Sarah should go through what a normal person should go through, if they found themselves in this situation.
The Queen should not bail her out.

Iluvbertie 07-12-2010 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1110081)
Sarah should go through what a normal person should go through, if they found themselves in this situation.
The Queen should not bail her out.


The Queen is a very wealth woman. Sarah is the mother of her grandchildren and the effective de facto wife of her second beloved son. As a loving mother and grandmother she may very well feel that she can assist someone whom her son and granddaughters love rather than see them embarassed and hurt.

Lumutqueen 07-12-2010 06:35 AM

And? Just because she is a wealthy woman, doesn't mean she has to give handouts to people who are very careless with the money they do have.
Sarah is a grown woman and should not have to go to her ex mother-in-law for a handout when she gets into trouble.
Using the "i'm the mother of your grandkids" excuse is ridiculous in my opinion.

tommy1716 07-12-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by charlottestreasures (Post 1109980)
"......Zenouska Mowatt are also believed to be among the assistants she has lost. "

Did anyone happen to catch this in the article about Sarah's staff being
dismissed.

This is Princess Alexandra's granddaughter.


I wondered about this to but then read in a newspaper colum in the daily mail or telegraph that there was "surprise" at this too. Apprently Zenouska did help Sarah out once or twice a while back when other staff fell ill but she didn't work for Sarah she was just helping out so she hasn't been "let go" or anything. I will try and find the article.


Just found article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...deal-Slim.html its near the bottom of the page:

Considering her only employment for the Duchess of York consisted of some work experience, Princess Alexandra’s granddaughter Zenouska Mowatt, 20, was rather miffed to find herself on a list of *Fergie’s sacked staff.
‘To say we’re bemused is a bit of an understatement,’ says Zen’s father, photographer Paul Mowatt.

Zonk 07-12-2010 08:43 AM

Gotta love the Dailymail...neglected to say that Zenouska is no longer affiliated with the Duchess.

Just the facts....

Iluvbertie 07-12-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1110095)
And? Just because she is a wealthy woman, doesn't mean she has to give handouts to people who are very careless with the money they do have.
Sarah is a grown woman and should not have to go to her ex mother-in-law for a handout when she gets into trouble.
Using the "i'm the mother of your grandkids" excuse is ridiculous in my opinion.


And your proof that Sarah is doing that rather than that the Queen offering to help the de facto wife of her son is...?

wymanda 07-12-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962 (Post 1110021)
I think that HM and Prince Andrew have made a shrewd move. Someone needs to control Sarah, because she seemingly can't control herself. I wonder whether the Duke of York feels some residual guilt over not being able to be around for Sarah in the early years of their marriage?:ermm:

I don't think it is "residual guilt". I think he genuinly loves Sarah and knows that he, and his family, were even in a small way, partially to blame for the marriage failure.

Lumutqueen 07-12-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie (Post 1110126)
And your proof that Sarah is doing that rather than that the Queen offering to help the de facto wife of her son is...?

I don't have anny evidence, due to the fact i fortunately don't know Sarah personaly. But to be honest I wouldn't put it past her.
It looks like The Queen is trying to shut Sarah up and attempt to "control her" by paying of her debts, she's done it before and no doubt she'll have to do it again.

Osipi 07-12-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1110057)
I can't believe the Queen is bailing out Sarah, she shouldn't have to do that.

I think what's going on here is actually the Queen will be "bailing" out Sarah in the respect that the allotment that Andrew receives from the Queen for the management of his private office staff comes from the Queen's purse. His office is going to go over and analyze Sarah's finances and find places to cut costs and find ways for Sarah to use her money more wisely. I don't think the Queen in any way is going to be paying off Sarah's debts here.

I think this is a grand idea. Sarah does need guidance when it comes to spending and with Andrew doing this, it shows the rest of us that he does still care and as Sarah said in the Oprah interview, has "unconditional love".

NotAPretender 07-12-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen (Post 1110095)
And? Just because she is a wealthy woman, doesn't mean she has to give handouts to people who are very careless with the money they do have.
Sarah is a grown woman and should not have to go to her ex mother-in-law for a handout when she gets into trouble.
Using the "i'm the mother of your grandkids" excuse is ridiculous in my opinion.

Completely agree. It's damage control and I think it's what we had all batted around previously, that this is some kind of quid pro quo - the family pays off Sarah's debts and leashes her.

Already, it seems that Andrew's staff is now The Keeper of the Redhead as I think I mentioned when this first broke.

Sarah is like an idiot child in so many ways, and she has to be controlled in this manner. lumut, I agree that this is insulting to those who bail themselves out, that the Queen has had to step in and do this. There is no way on God's green earth that the Queen has any obligation to Sarah. Sarah has had millions of pounds running through her hand. She is the ex wife of a second son - and a completely embarassing one at that.

I think that the Queen's hand was forced on this. I mean, that Oprah interview was cringe-worthy and with that under her belt, who knows what else Sarah was capable of doing? It all reflects very badly on the Royal family, although Sarah's proven time and again that she is NOT a member of the Royal family, either in actual terms or by her behaviour.

I'm not qualified to judge whether this represents Andrew's undying and "unconditional" love (how maudlin a set of words!) for Sarah. We only have the words from her mouth that this is "reality," and I think that "reality" for Sarah is an oddly lighted place for the rest of us. IMO, Sarah is like a great big floppy golden retreiver who still thinks it can bound about like a puppy and is endlessly adorable, when in fact it's drooling, messing the floor, and reaching the time for a decision to be made.

I think it's quid pro quo and a shrewd move. It's a kindness of the Queen to do this, and I'm sure that Andrew would not make a move without the Queen's approval and approbation. This decision is 0% driven by Andrew, and 100% driven by Her Majesty. So I think for anyone that considers this is to be anything other than direct order from her Majesty (meaning independent motivations on Andrew's part,) mistakes who the boss of The Firm really is. Sarah, of course, will place the construct on it that it represent's Andrew's endless devotion to her. Let's us be a bit more clear-sighted: what other office should handle this, beside Andrew's? Clarence House? Andrew's team is in the best position to judge what is "really" an expense for the princesses versus "this is what Sarah wanted to do so she's using the girls' presence to get her way."

Sarah's greed has gotten her here. Let's see how tight that leash is point-forward. There is nothing to be done about Sarah's incredibly sordid past and decisions, so let's see how she fares when someone else makes the decisions for her.

Lumutqueen 07-12-2010 12:36 PM

Oh of course I realise that nobody but Her Majesty has decided to do this, but IMO she shouldn't have decided to do it.
Sarah is not a member of the royal family, she's already had money from her children, and from Bea's boyfriend.
She should have to go through everything a normal person would go through if they found themselves in this situation.

But she's been paid out before, by both the Queen and her own children, but she still goes and get's herself bankrupt. What makes this time any different? She's probably going to go and do something again in a year or two.

Melibea 07-12-2010 12:49 PM

Maybe there is an inside pact between the queen and Sarah; I doubt that the queen will just give her the money without demanding some kind of behaviour from Sarah.

Lumutqueen 07-12-2010 01:01 PM

Well I do hope so Melibea.

Melibea 07-12-2010 01:18 PM

Yes, I do too. If not we are going to see history repeat itself, again.


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