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Baron Saalfeld 07-08-2010 05:44 PM

The Royal Household of the Kingdom of Greece
 
How many people did the Royal Household consists of during the Kingdom of Greece? Does anyone know the different positions?

Vlaha Karatsokaros 07-10-2010 05:13 PM

For sure, there were the following:
Grand Chamberlain [Megas Avlarchis - Μέγας Αυλάρχης] a post held for almost 20 years by Mr. D. Levidis
The Queen's Chamberlain [Αυλάρχης Βασιλίσσης] a position held during the Frederika years by Mr. Leloudas
Head of the Royal Stables [Μέγας Σταυλάρχης] a position held during Paul's reign by General Sophocles Papanikolaou
King's Equerry a position held during Constantine's reign by Michael Arnaoutis
King's Secretary a position held during Constantine's reign by Mr. Marinos Geroulanos
Head of the Military House of the King [Αρχηγός Στρατιωτικού Οίκου του Βασιλέως] a position held during the Paul years by general Dovas and Balodemos
The Grand Lady-in-waiting [Μεγάλη Κυρία των Τιμών] a position held until the departure of the royal family by Madame Mary Karolou
Ladies in-waiting [Κυρίαι των Τιμών] several positions held by many personages including Mademoiselle Paparrigopoulou, Madame Gianoulatos and others.

roimat 08-05-2010 06:29 PM

The list isn't so acurate...Marinos Geroulanos was the Queen's Frederica's Chamberlain, not King Constantine's secratary. During tha Military junta, Grand Chamberlain was Mr. Leonidas Papagos, son of Marshal and Prime Minister Alexander Papagos...

Vlaha Karatsokaros 08-13-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by roimat (Post 1121139)
The list isn't so acurate...Marinos Geroulanos was the Queen's Frederica's Chamberlain, not King Constantine's secratary. During tha Military junta, Grand Chamberlain was Mr. Leonidas Papagos, son of Marshal and Prime Minister Alexander Papagos...

The list may be incomplete but is very accurate. Please read my statement again.
I quoted Mr Levidis as one - not the only - grand chamberlain who, in fact, happened to be the longest serving in post WWII years. Ambassador Papagos followed Mr. Levidis.
Without being certain, I do not believe Queen Frederika continued to have a Chamberlain after King Paul's death. Insofar as Mr. Geroulanos was concerned, he did not serve as Chamberlain.

roimat 08-18-2010 01:48 PM

After Levidis, was Papathanasopoulos the man who was Chamberalain to the King. After him, Papagos. And yes, Queen Frederika had Geroulanos as a Chamberlain. It happent to work as a royal journalist in a magazine so, i believe i know a litle bit about it;-)

Odette 08-18-2010 01:56 PM

:previous: I believe Mr Arnaoutis left Greece with the Royal family December 13, 1967. Whatever happened to the rest of the Royal Household?

Maura724 08-18-2010 02:28 PM

There was an article in the New York Times at the time of Anne-Marie and Constantine's engagement about one of her Danish ladies-in-waiting who had fallen in love with one of his Greek aides. The lady was planning to go to Greece with Anne-Marie when she married, and then the staff couple was planning to marry as well. Does anyone know who they were or what happened to them later?

roimat 08-18-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1125700)
:previous: I believe Mr Arnaoutis left Greece with the Royal family December 13, 1967. Whatever happened to the rest of the Royal Household?

Arnaoutis, who has passed away in 1998(that's why in Greek we don't call dead people "Mr" :lol:), was already serving in the Greek Embassy in London at that time, he wasn't at the Royal Household. He returned to HM services after 1974, unfurtunatly not always serving him well...

Nikolopoulus 08-19-2010 04:51 AM

and Yorgos Moralis....Most of these people were reintegrated into other positions in Republic

Odette 08-19-2010 06:50 AM

:previous::previous:
Roimat Nicolopoulos, since you are both good with names and I am having blonde moments, can you help here..Who was the Avlarhis who left Athens with the Royal family and stayed with them in Rome before they settled in London?. Who was the King's representative who initially negotiated the removal of some of the personal property from Greece to London?. :flowers:

Nikolopoulus 08-19-2010 04:29 PM

I doesn´t know of who speak you, but he could be Marios Stavridis

roimat 08-20-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1125932)
:previous::previous:
Roimat Nicolopoulos, since you are both good with names and I am having blonde moments, can you help here..Who was the Avlarhis who left Athens with the Royal family and stayed with them in Rome before they settled in London?. Who was the King's representative who initially negotiated the removal of some of the personal property from Greece to London?. :flowers:

As for your first question, the Avlarhis was Leonidas Papagos, son of the Marsal and prime minister Papagos. He was appointed as Avlarhis from the Junda, but was a dicent man and stayed near the King till 1977. The King's representative in Greece, to whom you are refairing, is indeed Marios Stavridis, admiral, who died few years ago.

Odette 08-23-2010 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by roimat (Post 1126539)
As for your first question, the Avlarhis was Leonidas Papagos, son of the Marsal and prime minister Papagos. He was appointed as Avlarhis from the Junda, but was a dicent man and stayed near the King till 1977. The King's representative in Greece, to whom you are refairing, is indeed Marios Stavridis, admiral, who died few years ago.

Thank you. The names that swirled around my head were Arnaoutis and, Levides but then again between dying brain cells and the blond hair, I get easily forgetful...:bang:

roimat 08-30-2010 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Odette (Post 1127400)
Thank you. The names that swirled around my head were Arnaoutis and, Levides but then again between dying brain cells and the blond hair, I get easily forgetful...:bang:

LOL...blond hair is a sign of Royalty:flowers:


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